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I've always been a fan of can and think he's a beast on his day. But he is inconsistent and defensively he can be quite poor. But no doubt he's going to be a quality player within a couple of years. But players in his position aren't hard to replace. Hopefully fabinho is that man.
Never rated him in Klopps system,
Takes too many touches, takes too long to release the ball and never does it at the pace required against defensive teams.
His injury record is poor and he thinks he's bigger than the club.
He can fuck right off.
Ox, Henderson, Milner are all better.
Gini is debatable but it depends on the roll you need him to play.
Can sounds so much better than he actually is.
Gini is debatable but it depends on the roll you need him to play.
Can sounds so much better than he actually is.
And Ibe is better.....
He could be but for a team that has finished no higher than 4th since he's been here, he hasn't shown game changing abilities often enough. He's been steady but not brilliant consistently, he's going to have to step it up if he moves to Juventus, for sure...but with all that said yes he could be a world beater especially in Italy... But but i think he'll always have the lingering thoughts that he was never quite good enough to be world class in the premiership.
Maybe he isn't suited to the fast, high intensity football that Klopp plays, maybe under different system he could be a lot better!
I'm sure he'll be excellent for Juventus.
On his best day he is excellent but he is terribly inconsistent. He is frustrating in that sense as sometime it seems he could be a top player. You'd think he'd have found some sort of consistency in the space of 4 years. Like you I hope he stays but with the players coming in I don't think we will miss him too much.
I haven't seen keita play more than 20 mins of a European cup match and only slightly more of Fabinho against city a few seasons back. So I wouldn't automatically assume that either are better footballers in England than Can is, no.
Can is a seriously good footballer , he's going to make the italian league look like a right gaggle of cunts
N.b on Henderson he is the most average midfielder possible , captain 6/10 , which is fine for most clubs, I just don't believe he has ever ever been good enough to start for this side. He has no standout attributes , can isnt perfect but he's head and shoulders above Henderson in several attributes you look for in a midfielder
Can is a seriously good footballer , he's going to make the italian league look like a right gaggle of cunts
N.b on Henderson he is the most average midfielder possible , captain 6/10 , which is fine for most clubs, I just don't believe he has ever ever been good enough to start for this side. He has no standout attributes , can isnt perfect but he's head and shoulders above Henderson in several attributes you look for in a midfielder
Captaincy has nothing to do with it, though. Neither has Can's hair .
I think on the whole Henderson is more effective for now but if I had to choose one to keep, I'd keep Can.
I think on the whole Henderson is more effective for now but if I had to choose one to keep, I'd keep Can.
He’s very good and could be one of the worlds best midfielders in a few years.
?? You stole my post almost word for word !!
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N.B. Except I know how to spell 'role' as used in this context.
I prefer this one:
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Unfortunately I don't think that will fail you an Italian Medic, as their drug program will lead to that eventually anyway.
Is that true though? When klopp had them all fit can found himself warming the bench from what I recall.
Yeah, I think this is fair. He's been gone for a while, so perhaps this outpouring of vitriol is to be expected, but he has certainly been a very regular starter under Klopp and he would have kept him.
That said, there is no doubt at all that while he can look imperious at his best, he does, as you say, have games where he looks well short of the quality you need and expect from a starting LFC central midfielder. I'd prefer he stayed than Wijnaldum, but there's no outstanding players in the midfield anyway, so it's hard to get too angry.
I can't remember where I read it but apparently there's a disagreement between Can and Klopp about where he should play. Can wants to be a defensive midfielder whereas Klopp thinks he is better further forward. The sort of underlying thought is that in a slower, less intense league he would be fine playing deeper but in England he doesn't have either the speed of thought or the pace to play in that role.
I suspect he'll look decent in Italy but I won't particularly miss the guy, especially with Fabinho and Keita coming in.
I suspect he'll look decent in Italy but I won't particularly miss the guy, especially with Fabinho and Keita coming in.
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