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Blatter and Offsides

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LeTallecWiz

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Seems good ole Blatter has been discussing the 'offside rule' with the head int'l hockey dude and it seems he's considering abolishing the offsides rule ...

This has to be a bad March 2nd joke, right?
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39136.msg1063060#msg1063060 date=1267557564]
Seems good ole Blatter has been discussing the 'offside rule' with the head int'l hockey dude and it seems he's considering abolishing the offsides rule ...

This has to be a bad March 2nd joke, right?
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imagine football with no offside rule. games with the scoring in double figures would become the norm
 
I've been saying for years that this should be done. The game would be so much better:

1. It's a controversial refereeing area. Removing it takes away all the mistakes that currently blight the game in that regard.

2. It means teams can't cut off a good chunk of the field by holding a high offside line, meaning that players have more room to work with, benefiting the more skilful players.
 
It's a terrible idea, what would stop players just standing around near the goalkeeper, blocking his view, jammily deflecting shots that they might otherwise have saved?
It would also stop the beautifully weighted art of the through-ball, or well-timed run

It will never happen, fortunately
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39136.msg1063063#msg1063063 date=1267557615]
Sepp Blatter really needs to retire and fuck off


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he's not the only one!
 
What I don't understand is where the "main int'l hockey guy" (I'm presuming this is Rene Fasel) comes in. Hockey still has offsides, albeit a very different rule from in football.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39136.msg1063067#msg1063067 date=1267557769]
I've been saying for years that this should be done. The game would be so much better:

1. It's a controversial refereeing area. Removing it takes away all the mistakes that currently blight the game in that regard.

2. It means teams can't cut off a good chunk of the field by holding a high offside line, meaning that players have more room to work with, benefiting the more skilful players.


[/quote]Me to Rosco. Everytime there's a what would you do to improve the game thread I post this.
No offside means stretching the play over the length of the field giving the best players space to operate in. It would be ace.
I'd also ban keepers coming out of their box.
 
You've obviously never watched GAA Brendan. It's full of well timed runs and weighted passes and through balls.

I think Ice Hockey has a rule whereby you can't enter the box (some arbitrary blue line) before the puck enters it. In GAA you can't enter the small rectangle in front of the goal before the ball.

Both much easier to police and deal with the problems you mentioned.
 
The GAA? What? What's that got to do with football

(Also, what is it?)

Anyway, losing the beauty of watching the next Kenny slipping/ chipping/ dinking a throughball for the next Rushie to race onto would be a mortal blow to football
 
With a slight amendment it could be ok. Namely no Liverpool player can ever be offside. The current rules still apply for all other teams though.
 
Why do rules have to be constantly changed. The game's survived for over a century so far without major ones...
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39136.msg1063106#msg1063106 date=1267561755]
With a slight amendment it could be ok. Namely no Liverpool player can ever be offside. The current rules still apply for all other teams though.
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Yeah, that would be OK
 
The best ever (and only really worthwhile ) rule change was the pass back to goalie. The 2 extra officials test against Unirea was fucking comical.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39136.msg1063075#msg1063075 date=1267558322]
allthebenefitsareforattackerswhatdoesthedefendergaininthisordon'ttheycount
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You might as well.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=39136.msg1063113#msg1063113 date=1267562165]
The best ever (and only really worthwhile ) rule change was the pass back to goalie. The 2 extra officials test against Unirea was fucking comical.
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Are you fucking joking?

We can trace our fall from grace back to the EXACT moment when our defenders realised they couldn't simply pass it about between themselves before rolling it back to Bruce for 40 minutes a half, in every away game, before Kenny or Rush bagged a goal when everyone else got too bored to concentrate
 
Exactly. It was boring as fuck. Look how exciting the rule change has made the football we play.



Oh.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39136.msg1063083#msg1063083 date=1267558863]
The GAA? What? What's that got to do with football

(Also, what is it?)

Anyway, losing the beauty of watching the next Kenny slipping/ chipping/ dinking a throughball for the next Rushie to race onto would be a mortal blow to football
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With no space in behind you would see better build up play, better counter attacking football and alot more long range goals. It could well be an improvement but will never happen.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39136.msg1063083#msg1063083 date=1267558863]
The GAA? What? What's that got to do with football

(Also, what is it?)

Anyway, losing the beauty of watching the next Kenny slipping/ chipping/ dinking a throughball for the next Rushie to race onto would be a mortal blow to football
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I thought you were Irish
 
Damn. Twenty years too late.
I could have been a professional goal hatcher
 
It seems the powers that be are considering anything and everything but the most obvious and practical solution - that is, to use video technology on all important decisions.

If such policing is subject to human fallibility, then surely the easiest option is to make it easier to police my removing human fallibility, rather than changing the rules altogether? That's just a cop out.

Pretty much all the top managers are in favour of it, and I dare say most of the players too. Anyone bleating on about traditions and romance should have a look at rugby, which has survived, nay flourished with video assistance. Not to mention the problems that would be immediately alleviated by minimizing subjectivity in the decision-making. No trying to influence the ref at every opportunity, less home refereeing, less wanker referees seeking back page headlines.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the rules, and everything wrong with the people and methods used to implement them. The sooner they stop resisting the inevitable the sooner all this ridiculous experimenting and speculating can be put to bed. There is simply too much money at stake these days to ignore it.
 
Just make offside back to how it was. If you are past the last defender, then you are off, whether the ball is on the other side of the pitch or whether it is the ninth phase. Or whatever.
Just put the fucking flag up. Simples.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39136.msg1063081#msg1063081 date=1267558582]I think Ice Hockey has a rule whereby you can't enter the box (some arbitrary blue line) before the puck enters it. In GAA you can't enter the small rectangle in front of the goal before the ball.
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This is actually a reasonably good explanation of ice hockey's offside rule, Ross.
 
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