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From the snippets in the Mirror:

West Ham are set to send Andy Carroll back to Liverpool at the end of the season, after deciding not to take up they £17m option to buy him on a permanent deal.

Wasn't the fee set if they survive?

If not, he'll return and be off to Newcastle for under 10 million ...
 
I think everyone should completely forget about the price we paid for Carroll because it's a negative view. Just take the positive view that we have an asset worth a reasonable sum who we will sell without it affecting the team in any way. That's not been the case most of the time in our recent past. Celebrate it.
 
May as well keep him, hopefully BR can do a Downing /Hendo improvement on him next season to increase his value and sell in 2014.
 
He's gone, either way. He won't have a future here, that much is obvious (didn't he have an alleged bust up with Rodgers in the last game of the season at Swansea?).

Apparently we turned down West Ham's initial offer of a loan with a view to buy, and then got panicky in the last couple of days and took the loan to get him (partly) off the wage bill.
 
People will want him but I doubt they will pay anywhere near 10 million for him!

Its not a bad price because he is a decent player but we blatantly don't want him and have made that perfectly clear. That leaves us no bargaining power at all.

He will end up going out on loan again.
 
People will want him but I doubt they will pay anywhere near 10 million for him!

Its not a bad price because he is a decent player but we blatantly don't want him and have made that perfectly clear. That leaves us no bargaining power at all.

He will end up going out on loan again.

His injury record isn't helping either.
 
Ha, what a fucking mess. You can only laugh really.

Kenny and Comolli are responsible for some of the worst ever decisions at this football club.
 
He's got the case of the Cole's - can't play for a team he has no passion for. Make him learn French and fuck him off back to Newcastle to get them relegated.
 
Ha, what a fucking mess. You can only laugh really.

Kenny and Comolli are responsible for some of the worst ever decisions at this football club.

Konchesky, Cole, Poo-lsen, Wilson, Jones and Raul Miereles

That takes some beating


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I don't agree. They were bad decisions, but they had no real lasting damage and were made at a time when there was no cash available.

The 75M Kenny and Comolli had at their disposable should have been the springboard to fire us up the league and getting us back competing in the Champions League. Even despite the improvements of Henderson and Downing, I still think it's fair to suggest that it was horribly spent.
 
Deal was scribbled on toilet paper. They were never ever going to give us 17mill at the end of the season regardless, he could have scored 40goals and they still wouldn't have paid up. We get blagged with this bullshit eeeeeeevery time.
 
He's gone, either way. He won't have a future here, that much is obvious (didn't he have an alleged bust up with Rodgers in the last game of the season at Swansea?).

Apparently we turned down West Ham's initial offer of a loan with a view to buy, and then got panicky in the last couple of days and took the loan to get him (partly) off the wage bill.

They pay his wages in full and have apperantly added 20k to "sweeten" the deal. Bet they love that transfer down at Upton Park.
Carroll rejected the loan move with a view to buy aswell apperantly. Which is why we had to restructure it to get him loaned out.
 
I thought that this deal was already set and West Ham couldnt turn their back on it????

Was it fuuuuuuuck. I think that was said to make their fans think they're a big club, and our fans think we'd found some mugs to take him.
 
That was initially the deal. However Andy wouldn't go under those terms. So it is a loan instead, with an option to buy at £17 mill. I bet West Ham are delighted we have exclusively offered them such a great option.
 
I think everyone should completely forget about the price we paid for Carroll because it's a negative view. Just take the positive view that we have an asset worth a reasonable sum who we will sell without it affecting the team in any way. That's not been the case most of the time in our recent past. Celebrate it.

Tal is correct . It is the only way to look at it .
 
He'll probably go on loan every year until his contract expires then go somewhere on a free.
I had forgotten about him until this thread reminded me. Best forgotten all round really.
 
Looks like West Ham aren't signing Carroll permanently.


Just hours after Mayor of London Boris Johnson confirmed the Hammers’ move to the Olympic Stadium on Friday, Sullivan claimed West Ham hope to agree a deal for the mystery addition as early as next week.

The £10.75million fee paid for ex-Wolves winger Matt Jarvis is West Ham’s current record but Sullivan says the club are ready to break it as they bid to reach new heights in their new 54,000-seater stadium.

“I’m seeing somebody on Monday and, if we sign the player, he would be the most expensive player the club’s ever signed,” said Sullivan, before hinting that the player in question is a striker.

“We lack goals in the team,” he continued. “We’ve got to sign a top class striker from somewhere.”

Sullivan added that it was not a done deal yet but said the club will pursue other transfer targets if their plans fall through.

“Maybe it will be this guy on Monday, maybe it will be somebody else,” he said.

“We have a number of big targets and he is one of them. It’s spending your money wisely, and often you need a bit of luck.”

The 64-year-old expects more transfer funds to become available after the Olympic Stadium move in 2016, and he plans to continue spending until then.

“I hope we get one this year and over the years I hope we get more,” he said. “Once we have moved, we will have more money available.

“Relative to the size of our club, we spend big money, and we will continue to spend money.

“If we spend £12-£14m on a player this summer, in three or four years time it might be £30-£40m. We believe in spending on key players.

“We realise we have got to buy better and spend more money but it is a gradual build up.”

Sullivan insists he and joint-chairman David Gold remain open to overseas investment and says they would even step aside if the right offer came in.

“We have always said if the king of Saudi Arabia wants to come along, we will step aside,” he said. “We have always said that.

“Or, if another person wants to come and join us, three of us will put the money in.”

Sullivan hopes the Olympic Stadium move and the right backing can lift West Ham into the Premier League’s top four but knows it will take time to close the gap on the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea.

“Hands on our heart, it is very difficult to compete with Chelsea and Manchester City, where they have external benefactors.

“Manchester United are a very special club because of the Munich situation.

“It is very hard to match those three clubs, and Arsenal have got the Emirates, so it will take some time.

“But over time, we hope to close that gap. Our aim is still to finish third or fourth in the table.”
 
What I think Sullivan's trying to say with regard to the Mancs is something I've occasionally heard said before, namely that the Munich tragedy gained them a lot of sympathy and therefore support, which gave them a big boost once the effects of Munich itself had passed into history. I'm not sure how accurate a view that is, but this isn't the first time I've heard it put forward.
 
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