We dont have a single player we could sell for over 20 mill.
A scary thought
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Maybe coutinho though not in this form
Look on the bright side, our wage bill is up there with the best of them.
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What do you think would happen if they just told the whole team to get their agents on the ball finding them a new club this summer. If you don't find one you won't even make the bench next season. Just a total redo.
Performances like today and Watford saw Rogers and Dalglish crucified on here. It was abject, gutless rubbish.
At least we know now that the chancers who pulled their fingers out temporarily have been sussed out. We need to spend big and cut our losses on a few players, most at this rate.
At least we know now that the chancers who pulled their fingers out temporarily have been sussed out. We need to spend big and cut our losses on a few players, most at this rate.
This..
No one should pass judgment on Klopp till at lead he has the chance to bring in his own players.
Id keep..
Sakho, Clyne, Can, Henderson, Ings, Coutinho and some youngsters and that's about it..
I didn't mention Studge, as we would be lumbered with him regardless
Agree. The worst Liverpool squad in the premier league era! And to think how much that squad cost.
Adam banana is not heavy metal football is he?
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Back to Villa after the narrowly avoid relegation.
Its not even the worst, it's just poorly assembled in terms of cohesion. I get that Klopp has his favoured style, like anyone, but a manager has to adjust to what he's given. Rodgers got stick for trying to shoehorn Mario into a fluid attack. Now Klopp is doing the same to Benteke, but the player is getting the stick.
If the manager is going to stick with a favoured setup, then use the squad, use the right cogs instead of hoping a group of pricey players become the sum of their parts. If Benteke doesn't fit and you're not going to be flexible over a philosophy, then ditch the player and move on, there's no point wasting talented players to keep others temporarily happy. It serves no purpose, other than delaying progress.
If the manager is going to stick with a favoured setup, then use the squad, use the right cogs instead of hoping a group of pricey players become the sum of their parts. If Benteke doesn't fit and you're not going to be flexible over a philosophy, then ditch the player and move on, there's no point wasting talented players to keep others temporarily happy. It serves no purpose, other than delaying progress.
I've never seen such a dysfunctional squad. Hardly surprising given that we were basically recruiting for two different 'visions' - Rodgers' and the committee's - and that both were pretty shit in any case.
The utter predictability of the failure of Benteke is maddening, but I'm not sure if it's any worse a signing than Firmino. You really wonder if anyone stopped to think how we should try and play - which players were worth building around, who'd complement them etc.
What a mess.
The utter predictability of the failure of Benteke is maddening, but I'm not sure if it's any worse a signing than Firmino. You really wonder if anyone stopped to think how we should try and play - which players were worth building around, who'd complement them etc.
What a mess.
No i have to disagree.
Klopp by any objective measure is ten times the manager Rodgers is.
If he's not able to get any more out of the same players then either Klopp has to be criticised or those who think managers have magical powers have to cop the fuck on
Sturridge, Can, Benteke and Coutinho, at least, would all be in the 20m bracket in a sport awash with money.
Well hang on a minute, Origi, Sturridge, and Ings are all out injured. He's got nobody else to start. Previous to this he has been playing Origi who he sees as a better fit for his style of play.
What objective measures would you say support Klopp as being better than Rodgers?
Yep, I think Benteke is pretty much 4th choice currently when everybody is fit.
Right now, until the injured strikers return, it's a choice between Benteke or Firmino up front.
I'd say thats pretty unfair. Klopp has preferred Firmino, Origi, Sturridge to Benteke on several different occasions - Benteke seems to only be starting because there is nobody else to play up there at the moment.
If anything he hasn't bowed to the fact that Benteke was an expensive purchase, and both he and the player himself have publicly mentioned that he needs to do more.
I'd say Klopp seems to be one of those coaches that will prefer to try his best with what he has got, and develop players rather than rely on Hollywood blockbuster signings - its just that he's learning that he has his work cut out with a bunch of largely headless pansies with no fight or desire.
I'm not convinced with Klopp. Not from day one.
All that pomp and pizazz at the pressers ain't gonna fool me. He only knows how to play one way of football throughout his entire career and he's proving it again here that he's quite out of his depth. You can blame the squad but come on its not that bad as some of you make it.
I think the soft German has lots to answer for.
All that pomp and pizazz at the pressers ain't gonna fool me. He only knows how to play one way of football throughout his entire career and he's proving it again here that he's quite out of his depth. You can blame the squad but come on its not that bad as some of you make it.
I think the soft German has lots to answer for.
Hang on, Mark. Rodgers is the one who bought all these players who are a mismatch and the reason he got sacked was even he couldn't get a tune out of them. As far as I can see from Klopp, Benteke is 4th choice striker, transfer fee be damned, and we're down to our 4th choice. You select him and hope for a the flukey goal such as against Leicester and Sunderland. What you can't control for, and for which the player is getting some stick, is the sheer inability to convert one-on-one situations.
Oh stop being a bunch of blouses. We lost a game after winning 2 tricky ones. We've got a good team, with plenty of good players adjusting to a new manager who will take time to get us together.
All of the top PL teams are struggling to beat the West Ham's and Brom's this season. We'll be flying high by the end of the season.
Sit back and enjoy the popcorn and the roller coaster in the meantime. Besides, I remember worse teams in the PL era and they won the Feckin' CL under a new manager. You never know how much of a difference a good manager makes *eventually*.
All of the top PL teams are struggling to beat the West Ham's and Brom's this season. We'll be flying high by the end of the season.
Sit back and enjoy the popcorn and the roller coaster in the meantime. Besides, I remember worse teams in the PL era and they won the Feckin' CL under a new manager. You never know how much of a difference a good manager makes *eventually*.
I reckon Spurs would tomorrow.
We are so lightweight its unreal. The result today was no surprise.
The reality is that a lot of our players are at a 5th to mid-table level so its no surprise that we are where we are.
We need to get some crosses into Benteke or just sack him off. I hate how he so reliant on 'service'. Just compounds how 1-dimensional we are.
The reality is that a lot of our players are at a 5th to mid-table level so its no surprise that we are where we are.
We need to get some crosses into Benteke or just sack him off. I hate how he so reliant on 'service'. Just compounds how 1-dimensional we are.
So why was it necessary to even play him then, if this the case? Everyone keeps banging on about how Klopp has played Firmino in the false 9 ahead of him, the option was there to do that again today. Not that I'm particularly rating Firmino any more highly, but at least he fits the system better.
I don't think he does. We need our striker to score goals, Firmino can't do that, so who cares what 'style' we play?
And even without fitting any purported style, Benteke is our leading scorer, and has scored 7 goals in 14 starts, which is a decent ratio, and one he has always managed to maintain.
Haha, such garbage
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