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Yossi to Chelsea for £6m

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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110344#msg1110344 date=1275296280]
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.

Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
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Why do we have to be in "dire financial straits" for that to be a priority ?

We spent 100.5m on wages last season, which was about 60% of turnover. That's pretty much the high point of what is recommended as a wages to turnover ratio.

Our problem is that we have no financial flexibility, we're at our max in terms of wages because of all the big money contracts handed out to players who aren't living up to their end of the bargain. We've got two choices - continue as we are, hamstrung by bad contracts and unable to be as competitive as we like or we could shift them all save some money and then splash out next year on younger cheaper talent.

And that's essentially what Broughton's off the record comments about Torres were getting at a few days ago. We don't need to pay a 140k a week to a striker so we can finish seventh.
 
Broughton's 'off the record' comments, which I have severe doubts were accurate, were more about selling him for 70m, rather than just getting him off the wage bill 'to finish seventh'

And perhaps our targets are a bit more grand than seventh, which means we need to keep our best players
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40437.msg1110374#msg1110374 date=1275298873]
We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.

This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.

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Or just another over-priced, mid-paced mediocre Spaniard.
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As opposed to an overpriced, mid-paced mediocre Israeli.
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40437.msg1110374#msg1110374 date=1275298873]
We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.

This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.

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Or just another over-priced, mid-paced mediocre Spaniard.
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As opposed to an overpriced, mid-paced mediocre Israeli.
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Ha! I thought he was fairly priced, he can be mediocre though, but occasionally (but not enough) brilliant too.
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40437.msg1110374#msg1110374 date=1275298873]
We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.

This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.

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Or just another over-priced, mid-paced mediocre Spaniard.
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As opposed to an overpriced, mid-paced mediocre Israeli.
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Ha! I thought he was fairly priced, he can be mediocre though, but occasionally (but not enough) brilliant too.
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Yeah, I know mate. I actually quite like him, there was just a rather easy open goal I couldn't pass up on.
 
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=40437.msg1110578#msg1110578 date=1275368108]
I wonder if Gerrard will be more suited to a deeper role as his legs age, kind of like Barnes in his 30s. Gerrard could fill the hole Xabi left this season.

This would also free up a space for a more natural forward player to slot in behind Torres. Like a better version of Yossi. Peter Beardsley would be good playing off Torres.

Im not so sure. I think he's lost a bit of his pace to be honest.








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Yossi has expressed his desire to leave if the media is to be believed. Where there's smoke, there's fire!

I'd sell him to the Chavs but make sure that we get the money we want. He'll be shining the bench there. Use that money to bring in a proven playmaker. Rafa has some travelling to do and players to approach. But as a club we must do whatever it takes to get back into the Top 4 before we can have any loftier ambitions.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40437.msg1110609#msg1110609 date=1275381434]
We've apparantly said 10m.
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If they pay £10m for Yossi Benayoun they are mental.
 
They wont but at least we are not just rolling over to take the first offer, that would be a sign of weakness and clubs interested in some of our more lucrative targets would surely smell blood in the water if we were to start accepting lowball first offers
 
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=40437.msg1110612#msg1110612 date=1275382482]
They wont but at least we are not just rolling over to take the first offer, that would be a sign of weakness and clubs interested in some of our more lucrative targets would surely smell blood in the water if we were to start accepting lowball first offers
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Hooray!

Oh.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40437.msg1110609#msg1110609 date=1275381434]
We've apparantly said 10m.
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If they pay £10m for Yossi Benayoun they are mental.

[/quote]I dunno, the markets a fucking mess. Milner and Martinez are being quoted at 30m, that keeper De Gea from Atletico has had a 35m price tag put on him. I don't think yossi is worth 10m but prices are more ridiculous than ever this year. Milner for 30m ffs
 
Yeah, re what oncy said, the local press and radio city have said that we're asking for £10m as we're reluctant to sell to a prem rival.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40437.msg1110621#msg1110621 date=1275383584]
as we're reluctant to sell to a prem rival.
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We're not selling him to Aston Villa, Everton or Birmingham.

Selling him to Chelsea is as relevant to us as selling him to Real Madrid.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40437.msg1110621#msg1110621 date=1275383584]
as we're reluctant to sell to a prem rival.
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We're not selling him to Aston Villa, Everton or Birmingham.

Selling him to Chelsea is as relevant to us as selling him to Real Madrid.
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Fair enough, its nice to keep high, unrealistic expectations though, instead of resigning ourselves for a scrap to finish in the uefa cup.
 
10m or so for Benayoun means Turan as a replacement becomes a possibility.

That's IF Rafa gets to spend the fee.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110611#msg1110611 date=1275382375]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40437.msg1110609#msg1110609 date=1275381434]
We've apparantly said 10m.
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If they pay £10m for Yossi Benayoun they are mental.

[/quote]I dunno, the markets a fucking mess. Milner and Martinez are being quoted at 30m, that keeper De Gea from Atletico has had a 35m price tag put on him. I don't think yossi is worth 10m but prices are more ridiculous than ever this year. Milner for 30m ffs
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Mind boggling
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110611#msg1110611 date=1275382375]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40437.msg1110609#msg1110609 date=1275381434]
We've apparantly said 10m.
[/quote]

If they pay £10m for Yossi Benayoun they are mental.

[/quote]I dunno, the markets a fucking mess. Milner and Martinez are being quoted at 30m, that keeper De Gea from Atletico has had a 35m price tag put on him. I don't think yossi is worth 10m but prices are more ridiculous than ever this year. Milner for 30m ffs
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Mind boggling
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because he is 19, with years ahead of him and already a damn fine keeper, although 35mill is excessive.
 
Re: Yossi to Chelsea for £6m

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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110624#msg1110624 date=1275384033]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40437.msg1110621#msg1110621 date=1275383584]
as we're reluctant to sell to a prem rival.
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We're not selling him to Aston Villa, Everton or Birmingham.

Selling him to Chelsea is as relevant to us as selling him to Real Madrid.
[/quote]

Fair enough, its nice to keep high, unrealistic expectations though, instead of resigning ourselves for a scrap to finish in the uefa cup.
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High expectations are more than "nice", they're necessary. For one thing, whatever the more extreme of us may try and claim, those teams are NOT our natural company - they played out of their skins to finish where they did, whereas we had an unusually bad season, and going even halfway towards our real potential will see us back in the Champs League spots. For another, the lower we aim, the less we'll achieve. Bugger that.
 
We should definitely play hard ball over the transfer. It's Chelsea, why the fuck not?

We should look to include Cole as part of the deal - but we'll still need another LM if we were to go after him, as he cannot be relied upon. Sell Babel or Riera in order to fund this.

At the present time Chelsea cannot be considered a "rival".


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We could of course fuck Benitez off, inject some common sense into the club and play Yossi on the right where he is best, and use Dirk as a back up striker.

I'm going to keep banging on this drum for a while. Sorry.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40437.msg1110754#msg1110754 date=1275400998]
We should definitely play hard ball over the transfer. It's Chelsea, why the fuck not?

We should look to include Cole as part of the deal - but we'll still need another LM if we were to go after him, as he cannot be relied upon. Sell Babel or Riera in order to fund this.

At the present time Chelsea cannot be considered a "rival".


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We could of course fuck Benitez off, inject some common sense into the club and play Yossi on the right where he is best, and use Dirk as a back up striker.

I'm going to keep banging on this drum for a while. Sorry.
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We already have Maxi for the right.
 
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