Yossi to Chelsea for £6m
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Mistake IMO.
We have a dirth of creativity at our club, letting one of our few creative players go is daft.
We have a dirth of creativity at our club, letting one of our few creative players go is daft.
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
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Definitely, unless Cole is completely set against staying.
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
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Definitely, unless Cole is completely set against staying.
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Im quite shocked by the fee, £6m, thats what Birmingham just paid Utd for that clown Foster, I would have thought Yossi's value had increased since he joined us for £6.5m, how on earth could he be worth less now than when we bought him
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He's 30.
Im quite shocked by the fee, £6m, thats what Birmingham just paid Utd for that clown Foster, I would have thought Yossi's value had increased since he joined us for £6.5m, how on earth could he be worth less now than when we bought him
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He's 30.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110344#msg1110344 date=1275296280]
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110344#msg1110344 date=1275296280]
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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Im quite shocked by the fee, £6m, thats what Birmingham just paid Utd for that clown Foster, I would have thought Yossi's value had increased since he joined us for £6.5m, how on earth could he be worth less now than when we bought him
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He's 30.
[/quote]Plus at West Ham he played in an fa cup final. Here he........well he scored against Havant AND Waterlooville.
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Im quite shocked by the fee, £6m, thats what Birmingham just paid Utd for that clown Foster, I would have thought Yossi's value had increased since he joined us for £6.5m, how on earth could he be worth less now than when we bought him
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He's 30.
[/quote]Plus at West Ham he played in an fa cup final. Here he........well he scored against Havant AND Waterlooville.
I think Cole is already nailed on for Spurs, he wants to stay in London and he wants CL football.
Yossi's a fine squad player, Cole is better but his injury record is dire so you can see where Chelsea are coming from, Yossi would be a good short term solution for them.
Yossi's a fine squad player, Cole is better but his injury record is dire so you can see where Chelsea are coming from, Yossi would be a good short term solution for them.
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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I was actually thinking of Jovanovic >🙁
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110344#msg1110344 date=1275296280]
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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I was actually thinking of Jovanovic >🙁
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I think Cole is already nailed on for Spurs, he wants to stay in London and he wants CL football.
Yossi's a fine squad player, Cole is better but his injury record is dire so you can see where Chelsea are coming from, Yossi would be a good short term solution for them.
[/quote]Gentlemans wager? I reckon he goes to Arsenal.
I think Cole is already nailed on for Spurs, he wants to stay in London and he wants CL football.
Yossi's a fine squad player, Cole is better but his injury record is dire so you can see where Chelsea are coming from, Yossi would be a good short term solution for them.
[/quote]Gentlemans wager? I reckon he goes to Arsenal.
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
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Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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Disagree. It's a squad game. We need both.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40437.msg1110344#msg1110344 date=1275296280]
Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
[/quote]
Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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Disagree. It's a squad game. We need both.
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I think Cole is already nailed on for Spurs, he wants to stay in London and he wants CL football.
Yossi's a fine squad player, Cole is better but his injury record is dire so you can see where Chelsea are coming from, Yossi would be a good short term solution for them.
[/quote]Gentlemans wager? I reckon he goes to Arsenal.
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lol.. It did cross my mind while typing that. He's exactly the sort of player Wenger would go for, skill in abundance and not really a natural wide player.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40437.msg1110358#msg1110358 date=1275297141]
I think Cole is already nailed on for Spurs, he wants to stay in London and he wants CL football.
Yossi's a fine squad player, Cole is better but his injury record is dire so you can see where Chelsea are coming from, Yossi would be a good short term solution for them.
[/quote]Gentlemans wager? I reckon he goes to Arsenal.
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lol.. It did cross my mind while typing that. He's exactly the sort of player Wenger would go for, skill in abundance and not really a natural wide player.
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
[/quote]
Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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Disagree. It's a squad game. We need both.
[/quote]Im more worried about our first team being shite.
Cole and a good forWard and a LB goes a long way to improving that. If we effectively swap yossi for cole we get a younger better player for no cost that would improve the first team and leave us with JUST 2 massive problem areas.
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Mistake by Chelsea too, in that Cole is better and younger
[/quote]Exactly. Give Cole an extra Million a year on a 4 year deal and save the fucking bother.
Given that it's unlikely Rafa will be given his spends he'd be crazy to let any player leave. We should just be dealing in player swaps.
[/quote]
Unless we are in such dire financial straits that we have to get rid of a high earner of the wage bill in order to free up funds to pay weekly wages for an incomming freebie?
[/quote]If that freebie is Cole then see ya Yossi.
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Disagree. It's a squad game. We need both.
[/quote]Im more worried about our first team being shite.
Cole and a good forWard and a LB goes a long way to improving that. If we effectively swap yossi for cole we get a younger better player for no cost that would improve the first team and leave us with JUST 2 massive problem areas.
We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.
This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.
This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.
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We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.
This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.
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Or just another over-priced, mid-paced mediocre Spaniard.
We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.
This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.
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Or just another over-priced, mid-paced mediocre Spaniard.
Or just knock £6mill off the interest bill
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We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.
This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.
[/quote]I know. I made a joke. Then jj questioned the validity of the argument posited in the joke. So I defended said 'theoretical' position.
He's going Arsenal, I already said that.
We're not going to get Cole, Oncy. He's lahves Lahndahn.
This is a huge mistake IMO. I don't want us to sell Yossi. Especially not to Chelsea. Especially not for £6m. And especially not as Rafa will probably spend that money on an 18-year-old CB who will never actually play a game for our first team.
[/quote]I know. I made a joke. Then jj questioned the validity of the argument posited in the joke. So I defended said 'theoretical' position.
He's going Arsenal, I already said that.
It's Tottenham who keep getting mentioned in the media. And the Mancs, but like Bunny I don't see him leaving the smoke.
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I'd only sell if we KNOW we can get our hands on someone capable like Arda Turan instead. Or Cole. Maybe even Simao - although I don't rate him highly he's obviously better suited for the left than Yossi ever will be.
That kind of player talentwise, otherwise it's too big a risk no matter how frustrating it can be to watch the good lad Yossi when he's not at his best.
That kind of player talentwise, otherwise it's too big a risk no matter how frustrating it can be to watch the good lad Yossi when he's not at his best.
Re: Yossi to Chelsea for £6m
Disagree. They bring different things to the table. Pacheco (a) doesn't play wide as well and (b) hasn't got the same experience. I rate the lad but no way is he a direct replacement for Yossi.
Disagree. They bring different things to the table. Pacheco (a) doesn't play wide as well and (b) hasn't got the same experience. I rate the lad but no way is he a direct replacement for Yossi.
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Disagree. They bring different things to the table. Pacheco (a) doesn't play wide as well and (b) hasn't got the same experience. I rate the lad but no way is he a direct replacement for Yossi.
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Surely the only reason we'll know 9a) for sure and address (b) is by giving him a proper run on the pitch - which he won't get with Benayoun, etc at the club.
I quite like Yossi but equally I wouldn't be shedding too many tears if we moved him on. We have Maxi & Kuyt for the right, Gerrard & Acqualini for the centre & Jovanovic for the left. We need someone else for the left and we can throw Pacheco into the mix as well - not to mention some of the other youngsters that could come through.
Disagree. They bring different things to the table. Pacheco (a) doesn't play wide as well and (b) hasn't got the same experience. I rate the lad but no way is he a direct replacement for Yossi.
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Surely the only reason we'll know 9a) for sure and address (b) is by giving him a proper run on the pitch - which he won't get with Benayoun, etc at the club.
I quite like Yossi but equally I wouldn't be shedding too many tears if we moved him on. We have Maxi & Kuyt for the right, Gerrard & Acqualini for the centre & Jovanovic for the left. We need someone else for the left and we can throw Pacheco into the mix as well - not to mention some of the other youngsters that could come through.
I wonder if Gerrard will be more suited to a deeper role as his legs age, kind of like Barnes in his 30s. Gerrard could fill the hole Xabi left this season.
This would also free up a space for a more natural forward player to slot in behind Torres. Like a better version of Yossi. Peter Beardsley would be good playing off Torres.
This would also free up a space for a more natural forward player to slot in behind Torres. Like a better version of Yossi. Peter Beardsley would be good playing off Torres.
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