Because with it we have just drawn two matches we should have won. Thats why I said "at the minute"
Where did it go wrong today?
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Because with it we have just drawn two matches we should have won. Thats why I said "at the minute"
There was just a basic lack of execution.
Most goals come about from doing three or fours things perfectly and there are weeks when we can't manage it. I don't believe there is a lack of footballing talent in this squad, but mentally we're very poor at times and that's why're floating around mid table.
Most goals come about from doing three or fours things perfectly and there are weeks when we can't manage it. I don't believe there is a lack of footballing talent in this squad, but mentally we're very poor at times and that's why're floating around mid table.
Obviously I'd rather finish with a trophy, but if you ask me which team is better for Liverpool's long run and has shown more potential, I'd say it's Rodgers' ...
We could have played better. But then again on another day we might have had a ton of goals.
Very disappointing and all but it's not like we kept the ball and created fuck all for 90 minutes.
Ifs and buts, but if that great chip over the keeper from Suarez hadn't been headed off the line by their defender we probably would have scored a load more.
My biggest concern is not how we played as a team, which was good enough for a win, but by how shit Sturridge has become.
He's becoming exactly the sort of player I was worried we'd be getting. Holds onto the ball too long, only wants to try the audacious passes or passes that will lead to goal rather than the quick incisive passes he was happy to get involved in when he first signed. His shooting has also been very erratic. I really hope they can sort him out.
Very disappointing and all but it's not like we kept the ball and created fuck all for 90 minutes.
Ifs and buts, but if that great chip over the keeper from Suarez hadn't been headed off the line by their defender we probably would have scored a load more.
My biggest concern is not how we played as a team, which was good enough for a win, but by how shit Sturridge has become.
He's becoming exactly the sort of player I was worried we'd be getting. Holds onto the ball too long, only wants to try the audacious passes or passes that will lead to goal rather than the quick incisive passes he was happy to get involved in when he first signed. His shooting has also been very erratic. I really hope they can sort him out.
Nope, not at all. I think he's bang average tactically, BUT Yesterday's game is not a good stick to beat him with.
The players let us down yesterday, combined with a sensational goalkeeping display.
Hmm. K.
My initial post was a sarcastic criticism who blamed rodgers for yesterday.
I then replied to you after you posted an equally sarcastic comment.
Was i referencing to you with regards to beating him with this result?
No
Others did however
I was referencing them
I was trying to engage in a discussion with you. Clearly this cannot happen when it comes to rodgers. But hey Ho.
My initial post was a sarcastic criticism who blamed rodgers for yesterday.
I then replied to you after you posted an equally sarcastic comment.
Was i referencing to you with regards to beating him with this result?
No
Others did however
I was referencing them
I was trying to engage in a discussion with you. Clearly this cannot happen when it comes to rodgers. But hey Ho.
So you think Rodgers is poor tactically and then decide to bash posters expressing the same opinion simply because you think yesterdays game is not a good example to hold up?
Firstly, have that many posters blamed the draw squarely at the feet of Rodgers?
Secondly, does that not strike you as petty?
Seems to me that it's the done thing to come down on the naysayers whilst taking some conveniently on the fence faux positive outlook on things.... as always.
Firstly, have that many posters blamed the draw squarely at the feet of Rodgers?
Secondly, does that not strike you as petty?
Seems to me that it's the done thing to come down on the naysayers whilst taking some conveniently on the fence faux positive outlook on things.... as always.
I think he's average. Not poor. I think he can make the right changes when he's got a stronger bench. It's not his fault he 2 players he bought in the summer got injured and haven't made a large enough impact yet.
Not many posters have laid the blame however I have seen a few posts like that. And yeah, it was petty by me. I don't mind that because people are nit picking at what actually a good performance yesterday, only a ridiculous goalie stopped us.
People are questioning why he didn't change the game, I want to know how he could. We were on top for most of the games and we were unlucky. Recently that's not been happening as often as it used to
And how is it faux positive? And how the FUCK is it convenient? We're bang average this year, it'd be more convenient for me to pull apart the team. I think we are going in the right direction, of people done then fine I don't question it as they take different things from performances.
Early in the season, there seemed to be a weekly spate of postings hailing Rodgers for his willingness to make changes early. I said then that we've seen several managers like that, including Ged and Rafa, in their first few months, but it changed once they felt the team was their team and making subs started to feel more like self-criticism rather than toying with a predecessor's set-up. I think that's been borne out again by Rodgers. That's not a criticism of him, it's just a general observation about how most managers change over time. But there were quite a few positive things said early on that don't seem as plausible these days.
Fair enough Macca. I was begging for him to bring Suso on yesterday, just to give us that bit more of a foot on the ball in the middle, everything was so rushed and panicked, although we did create chances, you never really felt that the players were in that sort of form and confidence to put the chances away.
When you look at games earlier in the season, particularly away at Everton and Chelsea, he made decisions at half time which gave us a foothold. The subs are just becoming predictable. Lucas can trip players up left right and centre, get completely overran and constantly give the ball away, while Johnson was having an absolute nightmare, yet it was predictable as ever - Henderson withdrawn when he was performing better than Lucas, and Downing thrown in to give us a bit more directness. That said, Downing had a few good chances and could have won it on another day. But while the bench isn't exactly littered with stars, the opportunity was there to give a rocket up the arse of a few players and throw on the likes of Shelvey or Suso.
All in all, we've known our main failings all season, a defense that's brittle with two fullbacks who aren't particular good or consistent enough and a midfield that just doesn't function well as a unit neither defensively nor offensively.
We need a few more players, but Rodgers needs to go back to the drawing board and realise that if something's not working on the pitch, it's doesn't necessarily mean it's his own failing, players have off days, players come up against opponents they don't particularly play well against (and some just aren't good enough) and systems flounder once in a while. We've got talented youth players on the fringe of things and while Rodgers may feel he's treading a thin line keeping more established stars on side, it's his own neck that will be on the line at the end of the day.
When you look at games earlier in the season, particularly away at Everton and Chelsea, he made decisions at half time which gave us a foothold. The subs are just becoming predictable. Lucas can trip players up left right and centre, get completely overran and constantly give the ball away, while Johnson was having an absolute nightmare, yet it was predictable as ever - Henderson withdrawn when he was performing better than Lucas, and Downing thrown in to give us a bit more directness. That said, Downing had a few good chances and could have won it on another day. But while the bench isn't exactly littered with stars, the opportunity was there to give a rocket up the arse of a few players and throw on the likes of Shelvey or Suso.
All in all, we've known our main failings all season, a defense that's brittle with two fullbacks who aren't particular good or consistent enough and a midfield that just doesn't function well as a unit neither defensively nor offensively.
We need a few more players, but Rodgers needs to go back to the drawing board and realise that if something's not working on the pitch, it's doesn't necessarily mean it's his own failing, players have off days, players come up against opponents they don't particularly play well against (and some just aren't good enough) and systems flounder once in a while. We've got talented youth players on the fringe of things and while Rodgers may feel he's treading a thin line keeping more established stars on side, it's his own neck that will be on the line at the end of the day.
If you whack it towards the top corner and the keeper saves it, it looks incredible and everything, but he will comfortably do the exact same thing shot after shot. This shouldn't be a surprise. It's not like he suddenly loses his reflexes and ability to leap because you are somehow wearing him out by taking dozens of shots. We're like those stupid lab rats that keep getting electrocuted in the ignorant hope that we'll get the cheese.
Other teams just comfortably pass the ball into Reading's box and it gets tapped past the keeper by a mediocre journeyman striker. We failed because our players didn't know how to do this.
Other teams just comfortably pass the ball into Reading's box and it gets tapped past the keeper by a mediocre journeyman striker. We failed because our players didn't know how to do this.
I agree, O, how we missed out on Van Gaal.
Ha! Well, as Fabio said, that's surely more a case of the players letting down the manager. But it's a bit worrying that at this stage in the season, after having his passing philosophy drummed into them for months on end, they're resorting to this against a very poor and pliant team.
I'm concerned some players are burned out. Suarez globetrotting antics with Uruguay caching up? Stugs being rushed back? Downing being downing? Gerrard aging? Etc etc. All valid reasons for burnout. Sadly, this is where the borini injury has hurt us. He could have been a useful player to drop in and give other players a breather.
Perhaps rodgers feels suso isn't ready for the pressure of being a match winner. I think he's wrong, but may explain his reluctance to throw him on when we need a win.
He shouldn't, he was brave enough to throw him on at half time against Chelsea and he didn't let anyone down, he ran the game against a very good side.
The highlights would, and in a sense we did, but we were also worryingly lacking in cohesion and Suarez does look a shadow of what he has been for most of the season. Johnson and Lucas continued recent poor form by looking staggeringly short of confidence and decisiveness. I thought Gerrard did well, the centre backs were good too and Reina looks back to his best, but the rest.. meh. We need about 4 or 5 players to come in and rejuvenate the side and in some cases, take over from players that just aren't good enough.
But still more value than the theory that all teams should have a"big man" on the bench to throw on when they don't score.
Who are these teams that have multiple playing styles & vastly different personal to choose from?
We dominated that game and played pretty well imho. 29 shots and 11 on target. We were creating chances and on another night would have scored 3 or 4.
I agree that some of the players looked a bit holidayish but all in all we played a good game.
I dont agree on Suarez though. He did try to hard as the game went on, but the chip in the first half was excellent. Sturridge isnt fully fit yet but his pace gives us a lot.
We were saying this last season though, "oh we had 20 odd shots and hit the post", there's only so many times we can go through this before it stops being bad luck. Hitting the post is a miss, and if we're missing chances that regularly - and we are, then clearly it's not just one of those days.
We were saying it nearly every game last season. We're one of the highest scoring teams this season. Its consitancy thats a bitch.
But we still miss quality though. Yesterday was all about the quality infront of goal.
Hopefully we'll continue the good trend in the transfer market and Rodgers will hopefully have learned quite a bit from this season.
But we still miss quality though. Yesterday was all about the quality infront of goal.
Hopefully we'll continue the good trend in the transfer market and Rodgers will hopefully have learned quite a bit from this season.
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