why do people do it themselves? we wont get silva, let alone villa, let alone BOTH.
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[quote author=nornirongooner link=topic=34189.msg890300#msg890300 date=1245277202]
I just dont see what all the fuss is about regarding Silva. Whoever gets Villa, on the other hand, may well have the second best striker on the planet.
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We'll have the top 2 strikers in the world.
STRIKER!
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i was agreeing with everything you wrote today until that. Villa is a better player than Eto'o.
the top two strikers in the world are torres and eto'o
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[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890306#msg890306 date=1245277697]
[quote author=nornirongooner link=topic=34189.msg890300#msg890300 date=1245277202]
I just dont see what all the fuss is about regarding Silva. Whoever gets Villa, on the other hand, may well have the second best striker on the planet.
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We'll have the top 2 strikers in the world.
STRIKER!
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i was agreeing with everything you wrote today until that. Villa is a better player than Eto'o.
the top two strikers in the world are torres and eto'o
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[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=34189.msg890422#msg890422 date=1245311060]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890387#msg890387 date=1245305354]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890306#msg890306 date=1245277697]
[quote author=nornirongooner link=topic=34189.msg890300#msg890300 date=1245277202]
I just dont see what all the fuss is about regarding Silva. Whoever gets Villa, on the other hand, may well have the second best striker on the planet.
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We'll have the top 2 strikers in the world.
STRIKER!
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i was agreeing with everything you wrote today until that. Villa is a better player than Eto'o.
the top two strikers in the world are torres and eto'o
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where's the evidence to support such a claim?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890387#msg890387 date=1245305354]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890306#msg890306 date=1245277697]
[quote author=nornirongooner link=topic=34189.msg890300#msg890300 date=1245277202]
I just dont see what all the fuss is about regarding Silva. Whoever gets Villa, on the other hand, may well have the second best striker on the planet.
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We'll have the top 2 strikers in the world.
STRIKER!
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i was agreeing with everything you wrote today until that. Villa is a better player than Eto'o.
the top two strikers in the world are torres and eto'o
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where's the evidence to support such a claim?
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
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Villa is a great little forward but we can spend our last money elsewhere and wiser.
If we had Real-money available we should defo be in for him but with the current financial climate we'd far be better off looking at someone who'd be able to play everywhere along the frontline, instead of buying a certain starter alongside Torres and more or less fuck up our formation.
If we had Real-money available we should defo be in for him but with the current financial climate we'd far be better off looking at someone who'd be able to play everywhere along the frontline, instead of buying a certain starter alongside Torres and more or less fuck up our formation.
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=34189.msg890433#msg890433 date=1245312174]
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
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erm? their scoring ratio for the last five years?
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
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erm? their scoring ratio for the last five years?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890493#msg890493 date=1245316160]
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=34189.msg890433#msg890433 date=1245312174]
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
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erm? their scoring ratio for the last five years?
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And therefore Lampard is better than Gerrard??
Don't misunderstand me Eto´o is a cracking player also, i personally think Villa has been, along with Torres, the best out and ouit striker in the world for the last year or so... I reckon he's deadly... anyway... we wont be signing either of em...
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=34189.msg890433#msg890433 date=1245312174]
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
[/quote]
erm? their scoring ratio for the last five years?
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And therefore Lampard is better than Gerrard??
Don't misunderstand me Eto´o is a cracking player also, i personally think Villa has been, along with Torres, the best out and ouit striker in the world for the last year or so... I reckon he's deadly... anyway... we wont be signing either of em...
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890493#msg890493 date=1245316160]
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=34189.msg890433#msg890433 date=1245312174]
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
[/quote]
erm? their scoring ratio for the last five years?
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And therefore Lampard is better than Gerrard??
Don't misunderstand me Eto´o is a cracking player also, i personally think Villa has been, along with Torres, the best out and ouit striker in the world for the last year or so... I reckon he's deadly... anyway... we wont be signing either of em...
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why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals aren't the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890493#msg890493 date=1245316160]
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=34189.msg890433#msg890433 date=1245312174]
wheres yours??
IMO Villa is the better player, as in, i dont agree with you spidey.
Villa is one deadly little bastard.
He also wont sign for us because we is skint.
[/quote]
erm? their scoring ratio for the last five years?
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And therefore Lampard is better than Gerrard??
Don't misunderstand me Eto´o is a cracking player also, i personally think Villa has been, along with Torres, the best out and ouit striker in the world for the last year or so... I reckon he's deadly... anyway... we wont be signing either of em...
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why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals aren't the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
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There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
Goal stats from the last few years in the league:
2008-9:
Villa - 28 from 33 starts
Eto'o - 30 from 34 starts
2007-8
Villa - 18 from 26 starts
Eto'o - 16 from 18 starts
2006-7
Villa - 16 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
2005-6
Villa - 25 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 26 from 35 starts
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
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There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
Goal stats from the last few years in the league:
2008-9:
Villa - 28 from 33 starts
Eto'o - 30 from 34 starts
2007-8
Villa - 18 from 26 starts
Eto'o - 16 from 18 starts
2006-7
Villa - 16 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
2005-6
Villa - 25 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 26 from 35 starts
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890594#msg890594 date=1245323175]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[/quote]
There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
Goal stats from the last few years in the league:
2008-9:
Villa - 28 from 33 starts
Eto'o - 30 from 34 starts
2007-8
Villa - 18 from 26 starts
Eto'o - 16 from 18 starts
2006-7
Villa - 16 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
2005-6
Villa - 25 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 26 from 35 starts
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2006-7
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
okay, wow. just...wow.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[/quote]
There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
Goal stats from the last few years in the league:
2008-9:
Villa - 28 from 33 starts
Eto'o - 30 from 34 starts
2007-8
Villa - 18 from 26 starts
Eto'o - 16 from 18 starts
2006-7
Villa - 16 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
2005-6
Villa - 25 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 26 from 35 starts
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2006-7
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
okay, wow. just...wow.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890597#msg890597 date=1245323288]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890594#msg890594 date=1245323175]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[/quote]
There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
Goal stats from the last few years in the league:
2008-9:
Villa - 28 from 33 starts
Eto'o - 30 from 34 starts
2007-8
Villa - 18 from 26 starts
Eto'o - 16 from 18 starts
2006-7
Villa - 16 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
2005-6
Villa - 25 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 26 from 35 starts
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2006-7
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
okay, wow. just...wow.
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Er, he got 16 from 18 the next season.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890594#msg890594 date=1245323175]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[/quote]
There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
Goal stats from the last few years in the league:
2008-9:
Villa - 28 from 33 starts
Eto'o - 30 from 34 starts
2007-8
Villa - 18 from 26 starts
Eto'o - 16 from 18 starts
2006-7
Villa - 16 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
2005-6
Villa - 25 from 35 starts
Eto'o - 26 from 35 starts
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2006-7
Eto'o - 11 from 17 starts
okay, wow. just...wow.
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Er, he got 16 from 18 the next season.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890594#msg890594 date=1245323175]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[/quote]
There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
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you could counter that by saying villa is the focal point in the valencia team, whilst eto'o has to get goals with the likes of henry and messi also trying to fill their boots.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890578#msg890578 date=1245321671]
why is ronaldo rated better than messi?
goals are the be all and end all but in regards to forwards it may as well be.
[/quote]
There is no significant difference in their goalscoring records, particularly when you factor in that Eto'o has played for a vastly superior team.
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you could counter that by saying villa is the focal point in the valencia team, whilst eto'o has to get goals with the likes of henry and messi also trying to fill their boots.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
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that's pretty frigging impressive.
errr... what?
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that's pretty frigging impressive.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890604#msg890604 date=1245323457]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
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that's pretty frigging impressive.
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Again... WHAT?
Are you trying to take the piss?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
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that's pretty frigging impressive.
[/quote]
Again... WHAT?
Are you trying to take the piss?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890605#msg890605 date=1245323543]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890604#msg890604 date=1245323457]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
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that's pretty frigging impressive.
[/quote]
Again... WHAT?
Are you trying to take the piss?
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I knew eto'o was prolific but not to that extent. I had a total figure not a break down.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890604#msg890604 date=1245323457]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
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that's pretty frigging impressive.
[/quote]
Again... WHAT?
Are you trying to take the piss?
[/quote]
I knew eto'o was prolific but not to that extent. I had a total figure not a break down.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890610#msg890610 date=1245323841]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890605#msg890605 date=1245323543]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890604#msg890604 date=1245323457]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
[/quote]
that's pretty frigging impressive.
[/quote]
Again... WHAT?
Are you trying to take the piss?
[/quote]
I knew eto'o was prolific but not to that extent. I had a total figure not a break down.
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Seriously now... you're not taking the piss... you're being serious?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890605#msg890605 date=1245323543]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890604#msg890604 date=1245323457]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=34189.msg890600#msg890600 date=1245323348]
errr... what?
[/quote]
that's pretty frigging impressive.
[/quote]
Again... WHAT?
Are you trying to take the piss?
[/quote]
I knew eto'o was prolific but not to that extent. I had a total figure not a break down.
[/quote]
Seriously now... you're not taking the piss... you're being serious?
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890613#msg890613 date=1245323901]
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
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He ignored the point of the debate and then proceeded to pick out the least impressive ratio from that list.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he was taking the piss.
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
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He ignored the point of the debate and then proceeded to pick out the least impressive ratio from that list.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he was taking the piss.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890613#msg890613 date=1245323901]
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
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that was the season eto'o came back from injury isn't it? so in essense he walked into the team and then started scoring straight away. I think that's impressive I guess some people take that as a given.
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
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that was the season eto'o came back from injury isn't it? so in essense he walked into the team and then started scoring straight away. I think that's impressive I guess some people take that as a given.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890615#msg890615 date=1245324065]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890613#msg890613 date=1245323901]
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
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that was the season eto'o came back from injury isn't it? so in essense he walked into the team and then started scoring straight away. I think that's impressive I guess some people take that as a given.
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What about the season in which he scored 16 from 18. Was he just sat on the bench for the rest of the games being rested?
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890613#msg890613 date=1245323901]
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
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that was the season eto'o came back from injury isn't it? so in essense he walked into the team and then started scoring straight away. I think that's impressive I guess some people take that as a given.
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What about the season in which he scored 16 from 18. Was he just sat on the bench for the rest of the games being rested?
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890615#msg890615 date=1245324065]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890613#msg890613 date=1245323901]
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
[/quote]
that was the season eto'o came back from injury isn't it? so in essense he walked into the team and then started scoring straight away. I think that's impressive I guess some people take that as a given.
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What about the season in which he scored 16 from 18. Was he just sat on the bench for the rest of the games being rested?
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couldn't tell you. That has a certain appeal surely? a striker that needs next to no time to get back up to speed after an injury.
anyway back to villa v eto'o, it's a close one but eto'o (imho) takes it because he is a great goal scorer and a scorer of great goals, he scores in big games (finals, derbies) and he is bigger and stronger and argubly quicker.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890615#msg890615 date=1245324065]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34189.msg890613#msg890613 date=1245323901]
how is 11 from 17 more impressive than 30 from 34?!
[/quote]
that was the season eto'o came back from injury isn't it? so in essense he walked into the team and then started scoring straight away. I think that's impressive I guess some people take that as a given.
[/quote]
What about the season in which he scored 16 from 18. Was he just sat on the bench for the rest of the games being rested?
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couldn't tell you. That has a certain appeal surely? a striker that needs next to no time to get back up to speed after an injury.
anyway back to villa v eto'o, it's a close one but eto'o (imho) takes it because he is a great goal scorer and a scorer of great goals, he scores in big games (finals, derbies) and he is bigger and stronger and argubly quicker.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34189.msg890620#msg890620 date=1245324327]
couldn't tell you. That has a certain appeal surely? a striker that needs next to no time to get back up to speed after an injury.
anyway back to villa v eto'o, it's a close one but eto'o (imho) takes it because he is a great goal scorer and a scorer of great goals, he scores in big games (finals, derbies) and he is bigger and stronger and argubly quicker.
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You can guess though.
I think that not getting injured in the first place probably has greater appeal, but yes, good players are expected to perform after returning from injuries and Eto'o does that.
Your original argument was based on Eto'o having a better scoring record and that scoring records are all that matter. We've seen that there really isn't much in their scoring records, particularly when you take into account that Eto'o has been playing for super attacking, title winning, plaudit taking Barcelona where yes he has been the focal point of the attack. Villa on the other hand has been scoring for a Valencia side that has been in crisis for the last few years under several managers.
Great goalscorer and scorer of great goals? Can apply to Villa as well. Lovely goal he scored form the halfway line a couple seasons ago.
Scores in big games? Well, as said, Villa doesn't play for a title winning side, but I remember him scoring in the Copa Del Rey final against R.Madrid (?) a few years ago. He is also now the 2nd highest goalscorer for the national side ever and was their key goalscorer in Euro2008.
I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, but the arguments you put to Molby in favour of Eto'o weren't very good.
couldn't tell you. That has a certain appeal surely? a striker that needs next to no time to get back up to speed after an injury.
anyway back to villa v eto'o, it's a close one but eto'o (imho) takes it because he is a great goal scorer and a scorer of great goals, he scores in big games (finals, derbies) and he is bigger and stronger and argubly quicker.
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You can guess though.
I think that not getting injured in the first place probably has greater appeal, but yes, good players are expected to perform after returning from injuries and Eto'o does that.
Your original argument was based on Eto'o having a better scoring record and that scoring records are all that matter. We've seen that there really isn't much in their scoring records, particularly when you take into account that Eto'o has been playing for super attacking, title winning, plaudit taking Barcelona where yes he has been the focal point of the attack. Villa on the other hand has been scoring for a Valencia side that has been in crisis for the last few years under several managers.
Great goalscorer and scorer of great goals? Can apply to Villa as well. Lovely goal he scored form the halfway line a couple seasons ago.
Scores in big games? Well, as said, Villa doesn't play for a title winning side, but I remember him scoring in the Copa Del Rey final against R.Madrid (?) a few years ago. He is also now the 2nd highest goalscorer for the national side ever and was their key goalscorer in Euro2008.
I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, but the arguments you put to Molby in favour of Eto'o weren't very good.
Haven't really been keeping up with the thread, save for the last 2 posts.. but if it's a straight choice between Villa and Eto'o.. personally, i'd say Villa was the better all round striker.
He's more clinical and has better technique/interplay which is really what you want from a striker. If he had a bit more height, strength or pace, he'd be better than Nando even.. in fact, he still might be. Looking at their scoring records for Spain, it shows Villa (although usually the deeper striker) scores more and has a ridiculous scoring rate. I love Eto'o (world class), he's got more tricks and pace, but Villa is *just* the better striker.
He's more clinical and has better technique/interplay which is really what you want from a striker. If he had a bit more height, strength or pace, he'd be better than Nando even.. in fact, he still might be. Looking at their scoring records for Spain, it shows Villa (although usually the deeper striker) scores more and has a ridiculous scoring rate. I love Eto'o (world class), he's got more tricks and pace, but Villa is *just* the better striker.
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