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No, it wasn't mentioned.

I think we need to be aiming higher now. We've got Sterling as the young up and comer and then behind him, Ibe. We can't afford to be playing both Ince and one of them as we will just be too weak, so I'd stick with what we've got. If we are signing someone for that position, they need to be top class and someone from whom Sterling can learn from and develop i.e. not another Downing.
 
"Tom Ince could be following in his father's footsteps with Inter Milan having registered an interest in the Blackpool winger.."

Source: Footy365 rumor section
 
Yup, overrated.
We'll soon have world class player cash. Why aren't we buying Shurrle?
Oh and I'd rather have Draxler.
 
The irony if we DID buy him would be he'd come back to play the same role he was offered when he flounced off in a sulk - playing for the ressies and warming the bench on match day.
 
Modo said:
Yup, overrated.
We'll soon have world class player cash. Why aren't we buying Shurrle?
Oh and I'd rather have Draxler.
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I'm watching Draxler today vs the US ... He is a very technically gifted player - who likes to find himself in the middle, but is skillful enough to create issues on the wing. The commentators have said that he has a 17 million USD release clause ...
 
LeTallecWiz said:
I'm watching Draxler today vs the US ... He is a very technically gifted player - who likes to find himself in the middle, but is skillful enough to create issues on the wing. The commentators have said that he has a 17 million USD release clause ...
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Mhm...
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...mas-Ince-I-leave-Liverpool-play-football.html


Conversations between father and son in the Ince household are rarely dull but one exchange across the dinner table will remain forever ingrained in Thomas’ memory.

It was the talk with his dad Paul, the former England captain, which left Ince junior aware he needed to move away from the manicured pitches at Liverpool’s Academy to gain life experience at a lower footballing level.

‘I spent a couple of months at Notts County (in 2010) with my old man (when he was manager) and loved every minute,’ he recalls.

‘That opened my eyes to what I would call the real world. It is easy to say you get a silver spoon in your mouth at an academy.

‘You play on a Tuesday night, win 3-0 and just get a pat on the back and “report for training tomorrow”. You don’t feel anything. So I made a big decision with my Dad and said: Do you know what it is time for me to go and play some football. Luckily I made the right choice.’

Ince was only 19 when he left Liverpool in 2011. He could conceivably have signed a new three-year deal to stay at Anfield but how often would he have played first team football? And would he now be in the England Under 21 squad?

Leaving one of the big Barclays Premier League sides is often perceived as being a backward step but, with hard work and perseverance, Ince has begun building a promising career and tonight he will have a critical role to play in reviving England’s hopes of success at Euro 2013.

Sitting with him at the Caesarea Golf Club, England’s plush base for the tournament, it is clear he is a young man sure of his opinions and confident in his ability; having a father who won 53 England caps and two Premier League titles is not proving a burden.

‘You have to take your own route in life and I made a strong decision to leave a massive club like Liverpool,’ says the Blackpool winger. ‘I have no regrets. I look at the player I am now, someone who still has a long way to go, but I have played in some fantastic games.

‘To go to Blackpool suited me down to the ground. It has made me the player I am now, without doubt. To go and play real world football, there is no better feeling. The quicker you can develop, when you are thrown into a big game you can always handle it. You have to be strong.’

And that is what he will need to be on Saturday evening in Petah Tikva – strong. If Pearce’s side are to progress here, a positive result is imperative, so the speed and direct nature of Ince’s game will be required to unlock Norway’s defence.

‘It killed me watching the first game,’ said Ince, who was suspended for the 1-0 defeat to Italy. ‘We were bitterly disappointed but we will be ready, don’t worry about that.’

Such clarity of thought will serve him well, when it comes to deciding his future – Crystal Palace, Swansea and Cardiff are all interested – but, then again, he has needed to be resolute when discussions have become heated with his father, who is also his manager at Bloomfield Road.

‘As a kid, Dad used to make me cry,’ he says. ‘If I had a bad game he would be screaming in my face and worse! But that only made me stronger. On the training pitch, he’s the manager but that’s as far as it goes. When we’re back home, the manager’s hat comes off and it’s father and son.

‘We always talk about football and watch every match that’s on TV, whether it’s Italian, German, Spanish, anything. Even mum has to watch it. He’ll tell me I should have ran a certain way and I’ll say “you weren’t a wide player, so how would you know?”

‘He will then say he has scored more goals. He shows me all on YouTube, like for West Ham when he got two against Liverpool (in 1988). He goes on about that all the time – and the one where he beat (Zinedine) Zidane in the air for a header…

‘Do I argue with him? To a certain point. But then he just winds me up so much I just agree with him for the sake of it! But I wouldn’t want it any other way. As long as I can keep my head down, I can become a player in my own right.’

It is inevitably that Ince’s future will lie away from Blackpool but when it is time to make decision, just as was the case when he left Liverpool, there is no disputing who will have the final say.

‘Dad has always said to me “It’s what you want to do”,’ says Ince, who made his Under-21 debut in Azerbaijan last September. ‘He’s my dad and my manager and he’ll advise me, but ultimately it’ll be about what I want to do.

‘Once I get these Euros out of the way I’ll sit down and talk with him about my future. We’ll go from there.’
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Thats a pretty mature attitude for a guy his age, he sounds remarkably level headed for somebody directly related to Paul Ince
 
I've decided I shall refer to him as "To Mince" from now all.

*flounces off*
 
To answer the questions in the article: yes, if he hadn't left, he would have got chances and he would be in the under 21s, like several of his old teammates.
 
gkmacca said:
To answer the questions in the article: yes, if he hadn't left, he would have got chances and he would be in the under 21s, like several of his old teammates.
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In hindsight I doubt that Kenny would have given him a chance.
 
He could've signed and asked to go on loan. That would've worked too. Of course, whether we'd have sent him out on loan is another thing, but still, that was another option.
 
He's made the right decisions for him. Those decisions weren't the best for Liverpool FC.
 
Modo said:
In hindsight I doubt that Kenny would have given him a chance.
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Why? He gave Sterling, Suso and a few others a go, I don't see why he wouldn't have done the same with Ince if he'd proven himself good enough and to have the right attitude.
 
Modo said:
In hindsight I doubt that Kenny would have given him a chance.
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What's that got to do with last season, the historic season of blooding new players? How quickly we forget. I was answering the questions 'How many chances would he have got had he stayed and would he now be in the under 21s squad? And my answers were - yes, he would have got chances (if, that is, the lazy little git had finally pulled his finger out) and, yes, he would be in the under 21s squad (contrary to that article, this is hardly a bombshell revelation, seeing as he was a regular squad member for England in all of his age groups during his time at LFC). Underneath the uncritical PR puff of that article (which might as well have been written by his agent) the answer is: nothing much would have been different, except The Guvnor Jnr would still be at a top club.
 
mark1975 said:
Why? He gave Sterling, Suso and a few others a go, I don't see why he wouldn't have done the same with Ince if he'd proven himself good enough and to have the right attitude.
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If I remember it correctly he gave Robbo, Flanno and Sterling a chance.
Don't think Suso got a chance, neither did Wisdom.
I can't say that I'm absolutely certain that Kenny wouldnt give young Tom a chance but I just don't see it and I guess Tom didn't either. Hence...Blackpool.
 
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