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The most depressing aspect is that we've constructed this fabled transfer committee to maximise our chances of signing better but still it doesn't deliver.
Signs today that Markovic is coming good but none of the signings have been overwhelming. Hopefully they'll settle in and improve further but it's taken us a couple of steps backwards in the meantime. The manager shouldn't have to be forced to change the whole playing style in order to fit the players he's got.
That said, his misuse of Gerrard and, to a degree, Sterling this season has been infuriating.
Signs today that Markovic is coming good but none of the signings have been overwhelming. Hopefully they'll settle in and improve further but it's taken us a couple of steps backwards in the meantime. The manager shouldn't have to be forced to change the whole playing style in order to fit the players he's got.
That said, his misuse of Gerrard and, to a degree, Sterling this season has been infuriating.
Who has he tried to sign, that was world class, that turned us down because he's Rodgers?
Sanchez (London calling)
Valdez (Wanted mega money)
I think that assertion is without definite foundation, and might be a bit rash.
I thought he did well to hold onto Suarez for another year, and carragher was obviously unhappy at playing a but part role. But I don't blame BR for that.
So how am I misreading this then?
Eh, yeah you were.
Rafa had a better batting ratio
Years?
You don't need a hyped up transfer committee to identify Lazar Markovic.
I think the transfer committee just spends their time playing FIFA and browsing the EA Forums to find their targets.
Rafa bought Alonso, Torres and Mascherano. Rodger's best signings are probably Coutinho and Sturridge and he also should get big credit for developing Sterling. I would say at this point it's still advantage Rafa, but if Coutinho develops into a player we all want him to be and Sturridge alleviates his injury problems, maybe it can be a tie. Let's see how Markovic develops, he certainly has the potential to join this group.
Rafa should get Reina too.
It's too early to write off some of these players though (as many seem to have done), not many have hit the ground running, but enough have showed signs they can be quality in years to come. Rafa had the advantage of bringing in fellow countrymen he'd grown to know in Spain and at an age where they were ready to hit the big time (Reina, Torres, Alonso), most of the up and coming quality Rodgers has bought has been, on average, three years younger. Look at Can, Moreno, Manquillo and Markovic, they all are showing signs of settling in and that they are good players who have the potential to be BIG players for us in years to come.
The fact is we fucked up over bringing in a striker, we all know that, that's where the frustration stems from. So brandishing what he did bring in as flops is easy fodder, it's also looking incredibly wide of the mark.
The fact is we fucked up over bringing in a striker, we all know that, that's where the frustration stems from. So brandishing what he did bring in as flops is easy fodder, it's also looking incredibly wide of the mark.
Mark, have you not heard of the six game theory? You get six games (if lucky) to shine or you're shit and so is/are the div(s) who signed you in the first case.
Get with the program please, first sign of an impending shitness tag is a disparaging nickname.
Rafa signed about 50 shite players though. Many of them we had to give away.
At least now we look like we can get some of the fees in return if the players dont perform.
Rafa may have signed a few of great quality but pissed away so much money on players that didnt improve us one bit.
Heh, I miss Redninja's "Rodgers out" posts from September.
The Spanish league is different than PL in many ways but especially when it comes to the David and Goliath analogy. It's easier for a small team to snatch the title one year because they only need two teams to collapse.
It could easily happen in the PL couldn't it? Thinking of the last season Fergie won. That really was a shite team he pulled that of with.
Fun fact: Barcelona has a budget of 539 million euros. LLevante has 28 million euros.
It could easily happen in the PL couldn't it? Thinking of the last season Fergie won. That really was a shite team he pulled that of with.
Fun fact: Barcelona has a budget of 539 million euros. LLevante has 28 million euros.
I get what you're saying about Fergie's side, but it was still on the back of investing for years, £30m each on Rooney and Ferdinand, £18m on Valencia, etc. And they had the experience of winning titles. You could probably argue that it has, to some degree, been done in the Premiership before, in terms of teams building and winning it quickly - Blackburn and Leeds both did and didn't challenge again, but they had investment in them, particularly Blackburn.
Anyway, as you say, in Spain it's reliant on two teams collapsing, when Rafa did it with Valenica, he took over a well constructed side with some of the most sought after players in Europe - Aimar, Vicente, etc. Madrid and Barca weren't at their best. Athletico did it last season on a pittance, but they have a well constructed set up that's worked well for years, identifying young up and coming homegrown and South American players and turning them into stars who then go on to the big clubs, at some point that collection of potential was going to do damage, it's inevitible it will happen every now and then, you could say the same about Porto winning the CL, similar set up.
As you say, it would take alot more than that for it to happen in the PL, even the mid table sides can go out and spend relatively well, it'd take three teams to have a really shit season at the top, for someone to steal in, or for a side to do what we did, which is pretty much go from 7th to challenger. Even we spent big to achieve that though.
You do if you're Brendan Rodgers.
None of those were 'top drawer' players when we signed them.
Xabi - he was by no means a big name. Yes - he became a very good player for us but he wasn't in that 'top drawer' that is being discussed.
Torres - probably the closest thing to a big name that we have ever signed given he was regularly playing for Spain and was Captain of Athletico. Was still not widely considered to be World Class (from memory when we were rumoured with signing him)
Mascherano - was a regular for Argentina by 2007 when we signed him so potentially so but he had just had a loan spell for West Ham United so again would we call him really 'top drawer'. Were we competing with anyone to sign him?
Reina - bought from Villareal but was anyone else looking to sign him? He couldn't get a game for Spain due to Casillas but was he top drawer?
I think they're all great players and the team with these chaps is probably the best I've ever watched but they were players who made their name playing for us and weren't IMO 'top drawer' when we signed them.
Poor old Lambert.
Indeed
Torres the closest to a big name that we've ever signed? You need to read up on your LFC history. A lot.
He'll be ok at Barca, they have rules that allows them to ignore rules like being suspended from transfers.
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