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Steven Gerrard.

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My top 5 goals by our greatest player ever.

In 5th place

VS Everton

steven gerrard goal against everton

In 4th place

VS Marseille

gerrard goal vs marseille

In 3rd place

VS West Ham

Gerrard 2nd vs West Ham

In 2nd place

VS Olympiakos (maybe should be first emotively but as an actual goal...)

Steven Gerrard Great Goal Vs Olympiakos (Ohhhh! You Beauty! HD)

In 1st place and one of the best strikes ive ever seen.

Steven Gerrard Vs Middlesbrough


I also thought about the goals vs Arsenal, United, Saprissa and Besiktas, but i think the above 5 are the best and not all because they are the purest strikes but because of what they mean/meant.

Any others ive forgotten?
 
I think the marseille one is technically his best ever. Its just one of the most brilliantly executed strikes.

Emotionally the olympiakos one stands out of course.
 
The goal to level that FA Cup Final might be the single sweetest strike of a ball that there has ever been. It's his best goal by a country mile.

And that Olympiacos goal still chokes me up.

Also, it lacks the sheer power of these offerings, the control that he displayed when using the pace of the cross to simply redirect the ball into Real Madrid's net in the 4-1 game, at that pace, was poetic. A very underrated goal in his arsenal.
 
His header in the CL final is underrated. It's obviously not in his top five goals, but in terms of importance, and the skill needed to execute, it's huge.
 
The manc goal is right up there and the one against Marseille is beautiful but I'm with George - the West Ham goal is outstanding. I don't think I've ever seen a better strike and that includes goals like Maxi's in the World Cup, Zidane in the CL final etc. The goal had everything - placement, technique to keep such a long range effort under control and pure, extreme, uninhibited power.

I know it was measured as one of the fastest strikes in history (72 mph?) but really it had everything. It's up there as the greatest ever strike in history.
 
Its got to be the f.a cup one.

He puts everything into that. Every last morsel.

Closely followed by olymp and the borough game
 
That whole FA cup run had an air of magic about it. The amazing game vs Luton, the 7-0 against Birmingham, beating United and Chelsea on the way to Cardiff and then that final (cisses goal was amazing and Reina made one of the greatest saves ive ever seen) amazing.
 
We had a little youtube-compilation contest a few weeks ago and to be honest Gerrard owned the shite out of everyone else. Which surprised a few people especially the younger-ones.

Of course there's some tricks and some goals in Messis and Ronaldos that's more impressive but the sheer ammount of superb goals Gerrard's scored is second to none. (Del Piero almost came in second btw, which was fantastic, always loved him too).

I know the former are younger and can get there still but at this day and age it's TKO Steven Gerrard.

Best player ever. In his own way.

Certainly my favourite player of all time. Yes, even before Laudrup.

And Poulsen too.
 
What a player.

I know for a lot of people Messi and Ronaldo are the players of this generation but I can honestly say I would not have either in place of Gerrard. His range of passing is second to none - and that includes Xabi at his best. His power running is as good as I've ever seen from midfield. His shooting - well, the videos above speak for themselves and, as KHL says, there's really none who compare. He's a little older now but his engine - particularly a couple of years ago - was and is just immense.

King Kenny will always have a special place amongst us; Ian Rush is immortalised by the sheer number of goals he scored and the regularity with which he found the back of the net; Molby was an artist with the ball and Souness will always have a special place for me through a near unique combination of brilliance and toughness; Keegan was something brilliant and, for me, one of the most magical players I've seen in a Liverpool shirt; Barnes is now and probably always will be our greatest ever winger.

Where does Gerrad sit amongst all these icons? I remember suggesting that he was awful close, in my mind, to surpassing Kenny and Oncy I think felt he had done so already. If I was asked now who our greatest ever player was I'd say I couldn't split Gerrard and Kenny.

It will be a travesty of justice - greater even than I felt for Sami - if he retires without winning the league.
 
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What a player.

I know for a lot of people Messi and Ronaldo are the players of this generation but I can honestly say I would not have either in place of Gerrard. His range of passing is second to none - and that includes Xabi at his best. His power running is as good as I've ever seen from midfield. His shooting - well, the videos above speak for themselves and, as KHL says, there's really none who compare. He's a little older now but his engine - particularly a couple of years ago - was and is just immense.

King Kenny will always have a special place amongst us; Ian Rush is immortalised by the sheer number of goals he scored and the regularity with which he found the back of the net; Molby was an artist with the ball and Souness will always have a special place for me through a near unique combination of brilliance and toughness; Keegan was something brilliant and, for me, one of the most magical players I've seen in a Liverpool shirt; Barnes is now and probably always will be our greatest ever winger.

Where does Gerrad sit amongst all these icons? I remember suggesting that he was awful close, in my mind, to surpassing Kenny and Oncy I think felt he had done so already. If I was asked now who our greatest ever player was I'd say I couldn't split Gerrard and Kenny.

It will be a travesty of justice - greater even than I felt for Sami - if he retires without winning the league.
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good post, wiz. a couple of points.
I don't think gerrard's range of passing matches xabi's.
kenny has scored goals to secure a league title and a european final.
kenny is still number one.

imho.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43411.msg1243158#msg1243158 date=1294228021]

good post, wiz. a couple of points.
I don't think gerrard's range of passing matches xabi's.
kenny has scored goals to secure a league title and a european final.
kenny is still number one.

imho.
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Couple of points to match your couple of points.
Gerrards passing is as good as anyones. He just wasn't as consistent as Xabi.
Gerrard has scored goals to secure a European final.
Kenny was surrounded by great players, Gerrard by mostly crap.
Kenny was part of a consistently winning team so he was in the best place to be. Gerrard has had to play in a poor team but has stuck with us despite better offers from elsewhere.

It's a very close run thing between them I'd say
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43411.msg1243158#msg1243158 date=1294228021]

good post, wiz. a couple of points.
I don't think gerrard's range of passing matches xabi's.
kenny has scored goals to secure a league title and a european final.
kenny is still number one.

imho.
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Couple of points to match your couple of points.
Gerrards passing is as good as anyones. He just wasn't as consistent as Xabi.
Gerrard has scored goals to secure a European final.
Kenny was surrounded by great players, Gerrard by mostly crap.
Kenny was part of a consistently winning team so he was in the best place to be. Gerrard has had to play in a poor team but has stuck with us despite better offers from elsewhere.

It's a very close run thing between them I'd say

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'surronded by crap' does that in enhance a players reputation or detract from it?
on the one hand if you are surrounded by crap you will stand out. if you stand out when you are surround by pure quality then that makes you even more special. like pelé standing out in the brazil '70 team.
 
Gerrard has scored goals to win every major cup possible at club level in this country and in european competition.

2001 scores second v Alaves
2003 scores v Utd in league cup final
2005 scores in European Cup Final
2006 scores two in FA Cup Final

To be honest Neil, as Sunny says, Dalglish was surrounded by gold and he doesn't match that record in finals. In fact Gerrard is the only player that has done the above I believe. Its a photo finish between the two for me.
 
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Gerrard has scored goals to win every major cup possible at club level in this country and in european competition.

2001 scores second v Alaves
2003 scores v Utd in league cup final
2005 scores in European Cup Final
2006 scores two in FA Cup Final

To be honest Neil, as Sunny says, Dalglish was surrounded by gold and he doesn't match that record in finals. In fact Gerrard is the only player that has done the above I believe. Its a photo finish between the two for me.
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stevie is still number two, imho. it's no disgrace to be second to 'the king' is it?
 
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Gerrard has scored goals to win every major cup possible at club level in this country and in european competition.

2001 scores second v Alaves
2003 scores v Utd in league cup final
2005 scores in European Cup Final
2006 scores two in FA Cup Final

To be honest Neil, as Sunny says, Dalglish was surrounded by gold and he doesn't match that record in finals. In fact Gerrard is the only player that has done the above I believe. Its a photo finish between the two for me.
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stevie is still number two, imho. it's no disgrace to be second to 'the king' is it?
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Honest question Neil? Were you able to watch the King live? I've always thought you to be a bit younger?
 
This has no bearing on who is/was better, but The King was a player better-suited to playing with better players in a good team. His range of passing, vision and all-round play required others to be on, or near, his wavelength.
Indeed, there were many times when Kenny played passes that looked absurd and didn't work, but it was often because he saw the game two or three passes ahead of everyone else.

He lacked the pace, explosive power and shooting of Gerrard, who can use those attributes to fuck off the hapless mongs trailing in his wake, to do it all himself.

Which he often does.
 
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[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43411.msg1243171#msg1243171 date=1294228723]
Gerrard has scored goals to win every major cup possible at club level in this country and in european competition.

2001 scores second v Alaves
2003 scores v Utd in league cup final
2005 scores in European Cup Final
2006 scores two in FA Cup Final

To be honest Neil, as Sunny says, Dalglish was surrounded by gold and he doesn't match that record in finals. In fact Gerrard is the only player that has done the above I believe. Its a photo finish between the two for me.
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stevie is still number two, imho. it's no disgrace to be second to 'the king' is it?
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Honest question Neil? Were you able to watch the King live? I've always thought you to be a bit younger?
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no, I watched videos. my opinion of greats are mainly based on watched videos.
okay, if the question is who is the greatest liverpool player you've seen live, then yes it's gerrard.
 
In fairness if you have just watched videos, you've probably just watched his best games and best moments.

I haven't seen enough of Kenny to judge either.
 
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He scored a cracking free kick against Portmsouth
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I loved that goal, the goalkeeper didn't have a hope in hell of saving it.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=43411.msg1243167#msg1243167 date=1294228407]
Gerrards passing is as good as anyones. He just wasn't as consistent as Xabi.
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He isn't as consistent, but he does have a tendency to play more direct passes which are often harder, making his pass play/completed percentage look less impressive. It's also one of the reasons why he has more assists than Xabi.
 
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