Yup, who would have thought Hendo would be so important, we have badly missed him the last three games. Lucas didn't help Johnson out at all, I lost count of how many times a player just brushed past him, positionally he was awful yesterday. I think the full backs in our team are given too much to do. Johnson looked exhausted for the last 15 minutes. Shame because I thought we were brilliant until then
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Yup, who would have thought Hendo would be so important, we have badly missed him the last three games. Lucas didn't help Johnson out at all, I lost count of how many times a player just brushed past him, positionally he was awful yesterday. I think the full backs in our team are given too much to do. Johnson looked exhausted for the last 15 minutes. Shame because I thought we were brilliant until then
I really value and enjoy reading your opinions on players but I can't for the life of me see how you have got this so badly wrong.
He doesn't lack composure, in fact quite the opposite as he often surprises me with the way he cooly takes balls on the chest, or turns the opposite way to that I (and the opposing player) are expecting, wins so much in the air without drama and almost always finds the man he is passing to (extremely positive passing stats).... and unlike Skrtel that man needn't be sideways on or require a long hoof to try to find SSS. He is very strong. His tackling is good and improving and so it should be .... his legs are like a giraffe's. His ball control is just fine but he does look very clumsy, yet the fact he rarely gives the ball away shows this is merely his 'style' proving yet again 'looks can be deceiving'.
I've been wrong before Froggy and hopefully I've got this one wrong too but as things stand I'm not a fan of his.
Who's going to be the guy to educate Sakho then?
While I agree, if we're going to continue with attacking full backs, which by all accounts we are. Then we need to do something about the CB's, or get a better DM, or we're going to continue to leak goals.
Whereas I think Agger is a better player than Sakho, I'd still sell Agger as his regular injuries mean we keep having to change our centre back partnership which isn't ideal.
Weirdest sentence I've read on this board is, I hope we sell Agger to Barca. Again, I hope we sell Agger to Barca.
There's just something wrong there.
That's a fair comment. I'd agree with that.
Why? Because he isn't Daniel Agger? No agendas like, but you hate Carragher, Skrtel and now Sakho. Hmmmmm.....
You're a pathetic joke these days.
I'll be intrigued to see how our defence changes over the summer. We have an awful lot of centre backs, especially if you include Wisdom and Kelly, and I'm not sure how many BR rates. He doesn't seem to rate Agger; Kelly seems to have some mental block about playing again; Kolo hasn't played for eons and Skrtel barely played at all last year. I've read elsewhere that Brendan sees Sakho and Ilori as the future; does he? If so, would Ilori be able to be a first choice next season? If so, will Skrtel want to stick around?
And then there's the full back situation which needs major work.
I hope Ilori is the future, but I can't see it for next season, Sakho definitely so. I'd be quite happy replacing one of Agger/Skrtel with Caulker for next season, god how good it would be if we could pull another Hyypia out this summer.
Because we need a ball playing defender and he's fucking useless with the ball at his feet. Get Verthonghen
Maybe we should pull Hyypia out himself to be a coach as a start.
That's a great fucking idea. Personally I'd like us to find some kind of fountain of youth, have him drink from it and resign him.
Agger!!!
It's a funny thing our defence. I think Skrtel has had a good season to be honest, Sakho has promise and Agger apart from being a big girls blouse despite his posturing and tattoos, is a decent player. But we don't seem to be able to make a partnership out of any of them.
I would sell the lot and start again to be honest, that might seem extreme but I think we have to cut it out at the root.
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I would sell the lot and start again to be honest, that might seem extreme but I think we have to cut it out at the root.
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I'd be surprised if Brendan hasn't invited him over. There was an interview with him not that long ago when he said he makes a point of speaking to managers recently sacked and inviting them to spend time at Melwood. I don't know how much coaching Sami did as Assistant Manager and then Manager at Bayer, and I guess he may want to get straight back into manager. From a nostalgia point of view it would be nice to have him back at the club, and I would hope he would be able to improve our centre backs. But then good players do not automatically make good coaches so who knows.
I think Hyypia could do it. he has management experience and knows the club and the city.
So would I. They're all problems to one degree or another. I'd keep Toure because he's ok as a 4th choice, but Agger and Skrtel are both pretty unreliable, and getting on a bit, and Sakho doesn't look good enough to want to build a defence around, so I'm not sure what the point of him is.
Ilori is meant to be really promising, so keep him. Buy in an absolutely top notch centre half, £25m bracket, as his long-term partner. Get in a good older player to partner him until Ilori is ready, say for £10m or so. Perhaps spend another £10-15m on a decent young back up, perhaps someone like Caulker. So that's £45-50m spent. Srktel, Agger, and Sakho could be sold for maybe £40m in total, so it's a pretty small total outlay.
I'd be tempted to do the same with the keeper tbh, sell Mignolet and Reina, spend a bit more on top for a really top class young gk. Then let them all mature together.
Personally I don't think if you spent say 50 million on two new top of the range centre backs you would see much of an improvement. To my eyes the reason we concede a lot is down to the way we set up, the centre backs are horribly exposed at times, and the full backs spend most of the game in oppositions' half. Moving Gerard back has helped but as we are set up to be such an offensive side we are bound to concede more than say Chelsea. Look at ManCity, although they will probably win the league they have conceded loads.
I think that's only partially true. Certainly there have been games this season where I've thought we've just looked horribly exposed as a direct consequence of being too attacking (Villa, Swansea at home stick out) but there have been plenty of others where we've just conceded cheap goals. We've conceded 49 goals: that's a fucking joke. There's no way we have to accept that level of leakiness as a necessary part of being an attacking team. 35 conceded or thereabouts should be our target for next year.
This team does lose it's head during games. The same thing happened very recently against Norwich where we could've just as easily suffered the same result as we did last night.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is as it seems that it's not simply down to one easily identifiable problem that can be rooted out and fixed. As such, I can definitely sympathize with the "sell them all and start over" mentality but then a year ago that probably encapsulated most of the team as opposed to just the defence now.
The team was an absolute shambles in midfield and defence last season and Rodgers seems to have made strides on that front this year. Perhaps next year he'll iron out more of the kinks and strike a better balance between defence and attack. Buying a couple new fullbacks and midfielders should help also.
Sakho probably deserves to get the benefit of the doubt given that he's still relatively young and playing his first (injury hit) season in a new league. I'd feel a little more hopeful if he didn't make basic errors but perhaps next season as he's feeling more settled we'll see less of those.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is as it seems that it's not simply down to one easily identifiable problem that can be rooted out and fixed. As such, I can definitely sympathize with the "sell them all and start over" mentality but then a year ago that probably encapsulated most of the team as opposed to just the defence now.
The team was an absolute shambles in midfield and defence last season and Rodgers seems to have made strides on that front this year. Perhaps next year he'll iron out more of the kinks and strike a better balance between defence and attack. Buying a couple new fullbacks and midfielders should help also.
Sakho probably deserves to get the benefit of the doubt given that he's still relatively young and playing his first (injury hit) season in a new league. I'd feel a little more hopeful if he didn't make basic errors but perhaps next season as he's feeling more settled we'll see less of those.
Bascombe reckons we'll sign a left back and one vocal, dominant, centre-half.
He's extremely injury prone by all accounts so I'd be surprised if we go back in for him.
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