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Some of the lads on here say you look more like Matthew Kelly.
I was wrong. I meant Henry Kelly, but with Matthew's camp.
More info pls. sounds interesting!
It was quite clearly an equal retort to his personal jibe.
But whatever, like I give a fuck what you think.
Daniel Agger was left out of Liverpool's defence against Hull City for 'tactical reasons', says his manager Brendan Rodgers. Photograph: Matt West/BPI/Rex
Brendan Rodgers has acknowledged that getting his defensive partnerships right is now a priority at Anfield. Liverpool's manager has seen his side concede six goals in th eir last two games, placing his decision to revert to a back four following a prolonged experiment with 3-4-1-2 under scrutiny.
The return to four at the back came following a 2-0 reverse at Arsenallast month and coincided with an emphatic thrashing of Fulham but, since then, Liverpool have drawn the Merseyside derby at Everton 3-3 and lost 3-1 at Hull on Sunday.
"Central defence is an important area of the team and it's something I need to look at to get that consistency," said Rodgers. "There has been lots of change and some of that has been down to me, knowing every game is an absolute cup final for us. If I feel I need to change the defence going into a game to get a result then I will do so. But from the coaching perspective, I need to consider that a little run in the team (for a settled centre-half partnership) might breed consistency even if we have to change a number of other positions.
"The last couple of games we've been disappointed with the goals we've conceded and obviously we've made mistakes. The difficulty for us has been getting that balance and a partnership that can cope with all types of strikers."
Whether Kolo Touré and Martin Skrtel, Rodgers' preferred centre-back combination at the moment, represent Liverpool's optimal pairing is a moot point. Considerable controversy surrounds Daniel Agger's current role on the bench.
"I know his quality," said Rogers when questioned about Agger before claiming that the defender's omission was "simply tactical" and designed to confound physically imposing strikers.
"I just felt we have struggled at times against big physical opponents so Touré has obviously coped well with that type of player," said Liverpool's manager. "So that was the idea, putting him in, and obviously Skrtel has been excellent since coming in. It was simply tactical."
Like Agger, Mamadou Sakho – previously a key component of Liverpool's back three – is currently benched but Rodgers has always believed Sakho is more one for the future.
"The idea was to bring him in to develop but Sakho came in and challenged (for the first team)," he said. "There's no real change to that. He came in at a time when we went to a back three and did reasonably well. He's now working very hard to come back into the starting lineup.
"That's where we're at. He's a good player, an international and if he's working well enough in training and the team is not doing so well, it could open up the door for him."
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/03/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-central-defence-sakho
Brendan Rodgers has acknowledged that getting his defensive partnerships right is now a priority at Anfield. Liverpool's manager has seen his side concede six goals in th eir last two games, placing his decision to revert to a back four following a prolonged experiment with 3-4-1-2 under scrutiny.
The return to four at the back came following a 2-0 reverse at Arsenallast month and coincided with an emphatic thrashing of Fulham but, since then, Liverpool have drawn the Merseyside derby at Everton 3-3 and lost 3-1 at Hull on Sunday.
"Central defence is an important area of the team and it's something I need to look at to get that consistency," said Rodgers. "There has been lots of change and some of that has been down to me, knowing every game is an absolute cup final for us. If I feel I need to change the defence going into a game to get a result then I will do so. But from the coaching perspective, I need to consider that a little run in the team (for a settled centre-half partnership) might breed consistency even if we have to change a number of other positions.
"The last couple of games we've been disappointed with the goals we've conceded and obviously we've made mistakes. The difficulty for us has been getting that balance and a partnership that can cope with all types of strikers."
Whether Kolo Touré and Martin Skrtel, Rodgers' preferred centre-back combination at the moment, represent Liverpool's optimal pairing is a moot point. Considerable controversy surrounds Daniel Agger's current role on the bench.
"I know his quality," said Rogers when questioned about Agger before claiming that the defender's omission was "simply tactical" and designed to confound physically imposing strikers.
"I just felt we have struggled at times against big physical opponents so Touré has obviously coped well with that type of player," said Liverpool's manager. "So that was the idea, putting him in, and obviously Skrtel has been excellent since coming in. It was simply tactical."
Like Agger, Mamadou Sakho – previously a key component of Liverpool's back three – is currently benched but Rodgers has always believed Sakho is more one for the future.
"The idea was to bring him in to develop but Sakho came in and challenged (for the first team)," he said. "There's no real change to that. He came in at a time when we went to a back three and did reasonably well. He's now working very hard to come back into the starting lineup.
"That's where we're at. He's a good player, an international and if he's working well enough in training and the team is not doing so well, it could open up the door for him."
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/03/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-central-defence-sakho
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Yeah Rodgers, that was clever.
He doesn't even mention Agger, the context of the point is a bit skewed there. He was saying why he played Toure, because he feels he's done well against physical opponents. He's come out with some daft interviews of late, but you guys are reading more into that than is there.
"Toure and Skrtel are his preferred partnership". Really? Because they played in the last game together? To then go on and say he's struggling to find his settled partnership. Lazy journalism.
"Toure and Skrtel are his preferred partnership". Really? Because they played in the last game together? To then go on and say he's struggling to find his settled partnership. Lazy journalism.
The unspoken summary; our centre-backs aren't good enough to rely on as the backbone of the team and have to be swapped around frequently to cope with different types of attack we face.
That's not particularly good news, even when it's been nicely wrapped up as some tactical thinking by our manager. Perhaps he should give that Ilori a go after someone went to the trouble of buying him as a surprise present for the squad.
That's not particularly good news, even when it's been nicely wrapped up as some tactical thinking by our manager. Perhaps he should give that Ilori a go after someone went to the trouble of buying him as a surprise present for the squad.
Sakho wouldn't be the first player to be eased in over half a season, without wanting to sound cliched, they see him in training and how much he's struggling/coping and what his attitude is like. He'll be in the team in time, who his partner is though is anyone's guess. I'm still unconvinced that Skrtel is here for the long stretch, Agger is another left footer (which will be an issue, regardless of what people are saying about playing him on the right, where he's never played for us) and Toure probably has a season or so in him and should only be back up.
I don't think anyone here thinks Brendan is a Brendanatollah, they just see some progress, which may or may not be more mirage than marvelous - we'll see in the coming weeks. But the commentary here is incredibly harsh, and that's coming from a fella who wanted Martinez and Hodgson out before they were even in. One defeat doesn't make a winter and all that
Sakho " one to develop " really? He's a 16m signing who is first choice for France surely he doesn't need development and at that price should be getting in the team pretty much first choice. He's been solid in every game he's played for us so injury aside his non appearances are baffling.
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I get that and you have got a point, it's not the one defeat for me however.
Every team can have poor games, but against Hull, Rodgers once again chopped and changed, different players, new style of play - some sort of counter attacking against arguably one of the worst teams in the league on the floor. It really made me wonder whether he had lost it.
Ever since the first few injuries hit the team Rodgers have looked clueless as to what he actually wants and how to accommodate the players he's bought and those he was supposedly selling. That is my main gripe, as said however I have still got faith in him, but it is quite obvious, to me at least, that his lack of routine being as such a major club like ours, competing with the best, are proving costly - in some matches as well as on the transfer market. Two Summer windows in a row where we missed the opportunity to bolster the right areas for instance.
I guess that is inevitable, but he needs to show us that he learns from his mistakes and does so quickly. We can all but hope that it will be made up for come January our lack of depth in midfield, I am just afraid that it once again will prove far to late.
Unless we are going to see a radical change over the next few weeks, hopefully starting tonight with a good win.
Probably means adjusting to the English league.
Vidic and evra were eased into scums team, the latter looking poor for the first few months.
Instead we baying for blood after a few weeks
I would agree if he had been a bit iffy but he's been good so far.
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Lamela costed twice that and he'll probably need 5 five years to adjust.
There's nothing wrong in easing in players no matter their fee imo, the questions begs however, did we REALLY need three new CBs in one window, without selling either one of Skrtel or Agger?
NO. NO. NO. NO.
There's nothing wrong in easing in players no matter their fee imo, the questions begs however, did we REALLY need three new CBs in one window, without selling either one of Skrtel or Agger?
NO. NO. NO. NO.
Brendan Rodgers today urged Spanish summer signings Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto to start hitting the goal trail, insisting: 'We can't just rely on Luis Suarez for goals'.
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Liverpool will be without joint top scorer Daniel Sturridge until the New Year due to an ankle injury, and the boss is eager for likes of Aspas and Alberto to step up in his absence and assist Suarez in providing the firepower for his side - starting against Norwich City at Anfield tonight.
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"The likes of Aspas and Alberto have been at the club for a few months now and have seen the difficulties of playing in the Premier League, how hard it is and the physical demands," Rodgers said.
"I can see them improving and working hard to fit into it. They will get improve and get better in time. There was always going to be a period of adjustment.
"With Daniel out, other players who have been working hard will get an opportunity. We now have to find a different way to win games. We can't just rely on one player for goals. It's the responsibility of everyone.
"It has to be for everyone to create and score goals. If some aren't available, we need to do more as a team - that was the message after the defeat to Hull.
"It was too predictable. Certainly you wouldn't have said that about us in the last number of months.
"We are normally exciting and create lots of chances. We are on the front foot. We conceded a poor goal which put us on the back foot but we needed to be more dynamic. That is something we will look to put right."
If he 'rests' Sakho and Allen for tonights game, when they're fit, and cost us the best part of 30mill quid, then some journo needs to front him up and say 'what is going on'.
He can't use that bollocks that 'they're for the future', as the 30mill would have been better spent on there here and now.
I strongly suspect from what I've seen of both players that they'd come into their own if they were afforded a decent run (5-10 back to back games) in the team. But if he's not willing to give them that, then why buy them.
They're not in the same bracket as Illori, Alberto, Aspaz, Cissokho etc that were bought to pad the squad out.
He can't use that bollocks that 'they're for the future', as the 30mill would have been better spent on there here and now.
I strongly suspect from what I've seen of both players that they'd come into their own if they were afforded a decent run (5-10 back to back games) in the team. But if he's not willing to give them that, then why buy them.
They're not in the same bracket as Illori, Alberto, Aspaz, Cissokho etc that were bought to pad the squad out.
I think you've missed the point here.
Why Rodgers keeps signing players that need so much time to adapt is odd. You'd think he'd be able to strike a balance and have more than 2 players who slot automatically into the team
Couple of months ago:
Brendan:
"Sakho is 23 but he is an experienced player, he has senior international caps and looks an absolute monster in training. He is one who is ready for now and that is what we want."
ROY RODGERS!!!
Are we going to nit pick every single quote BR makes about a player because managers *** shock horror*** will contradict themselves.
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