So what injury has he currently got that the summer and pre-season is going to sort out? That's the particular theme Spidey was focussing on, not people who were injured but have now returned to the team.
rafa back as manager - how does that make you feel?
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So what injury has he currently got that the summer and pre-season is going to sort out? That's the particular theme Spidey was focussing on, not people who were injured but have now returned to the team.
As Richey says, the split is very much still there, and will be until we have a manager clearly as good as Benitez. Until then, people like me will probably always resent the hounding out of a top class manager when we were in no fit state to attract a better alternative.
The Real Madeid he supported as a boy who he turned down the chance of joining so he could finally execute his long-term plan of screwing us out of £6m a couple of years later, you mean?
Fair point.
Fair point.
Everyone knows your absurdly extreme and unfair reading of the career of one Liverpool manager.
My favourite part is how you take pains at all other times to downplay the significance of a manager, instead underscoring broader reasons for success, but in this one particular case, where the broader financial context was so obviously catastrophic, it's Rafa who is the chief villain in your tale.
My favourite part is how you take pains at all other times to downplay the significance of a manager, instead underscoring broader reasons for success, but in this one particular case, where the broader financial context was so obviously catastrophic, it's Rafa who is the chief villain in your tale.
Lol. I really think you must be on a wind-up when it comes to Rafa, or at least take us all for complete simpletons. I presume this clueless idiot is the same one you admitted (a long time ago now) was an excellent coach - I think you said something along the lines of 'as good as there is' but was 'no manager'. Fair enough, that's a valid opinion even if I don't agree. But you only have to follow your posts on the subject for a while to realise your only view is one of almost frenzied spite, and your criticism limited only by what you think you can make stick at any particular time. So at one point that might be 'great coach, bad manager', but after, say, a bit of half-arsed and selective research on ZonalMarking that'd change to 'clueless'.
Anyway, all the best etc
I asked Neil if he was confident that Kenny would bring the right players?
It's a yes or no question.
You basically said, no sensible fan is absolutely confident.
OK, I'm basically saying "that doesn't justify giving Kenny another go at it".
Some "sensible" fans here who are advocating that Kenny should be given another year are saying that he'll get it right in the summer. "We just need, three more players"...etc.
Absolutely, I've made that point more than once on here myself.
If he could convince Llorente, Muniain and Martrinez to join us I might change my mind.
swap your long term project in spain and uefa football...for a long term project in england and uefa football.
Athletic Bilbao aren't Liverpool Football Club.
yeah, AB are currently better positioned to challenge in the future than we are
Liverpool are a bigger draw than Bilbao regardless of both teams current potential to challenge.
who's your manager of choice?
Fuck knows really. I haven't given it much choice.
I like(d) Ancelotti but he's swimming in some middle-eastern cash right now so he aint going anywhere.
About the only thing worse than making a mistake is repeating a previous one so there's no way I'd want Rafa back.
If it were possible I'd sign Bayern's manager in a heartbeat. He's shown himself capable of running the best organized defenses in the world off their feet. Also, if he could convince Muller and Ribery to tag along it'd make Kenny's departure palatable.
If it were possible I'd sign Bayern's manager in a heartbeat. He's shown himself capable of running the best organized defenses in the world off their feet. Also, if he could convince Muller and Ribery to tag along it'd make Kenny's departure palatable.
Unless the owners are willing to part with a serious amount of cash then I don't see why any decent manager would fancy the job to be honest.
A team that is way behind the top clubs in England where many of the fans expect league success in one season. Good way to ruin a reputation over night isn't it?
A team that is way behind the top clubs in England where many of the fans expect league success in one season. Good way to ruin a reputation over night isn't it?
Talk about "glass half empty". A manager with real ambition might just as likely see a club with an almost matchless history, incredibly demanding but also incredibly enthusiastic - and loyal - fans (provided he didn't visit here, that is), still one of the top jobs in football, a team stuttering along by its own previous standards but certainly capable of better (witness its performances against the top clubs this season) and ready to make someone's name if they can unlock and build on the talent already in the squad.
Yeah, sorry about that. It was 9am on a Monday morning though to be fair
How everybody doesnt have this attitude on Rafa I will never know!?
People assume he is going to come back and walk the league with the new board who will give funds despite the fact he had plenty of money whilst he was here.
Unethical?? What like calling for a managers head Mark?? Bit strong that im afraid... and from what i remember more than a little hypocritical.
I don´t want Kenny gone, but if you are asking whether i would prefer if we were playing in the CL with quality players and a manager who knew what he was doing there then....
The thread title is divisive but lets not get ahead of ourselves we are still nowhere fucking near as good as we were when we were at our best under Rafa nor, for that matter, are we much better than we were in the league under hodgson and this is after spending fucking huge money. I was happy to read Dalglish´s comments today in the press and he has my support but I didnt appreciate being told i need an intelligence check after watching a complete dogs dinner of a season....possibly the worst season i can ever remember.
As for the silly and uneccesary question in hand I dont imagine for one second that we will reappoint Rafa but IMO it is revisionist in the extreme to suggest that its an "unethical" question.
I suppose the question is would he have spent the 55M thrown away on Carroll and Downing and Henderson better, i think he probably would have. Others do not.
This do not mean that i want Kenny replaced nor does it mean that i want Rafa reinstated should this car crash continue all the way till the end of the season.
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