Premature reports that Origi's coming early...
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Raheem did alright a couple of seasons ago. Same for Flanno when Kenny bloodied him.
And Fowler
He's being played out of position for a club that are performing horrendously and he's being targeted by the fans.
6 more months could do more damage than good.
His WC performances and international games for Belgium shows that he can perform better in a team that plays to his strengths and play attacking football. Lille are shockingly defensive and have scored 15 goals in 18 games with 1 win in the last 10 games.
No point in letting him stay there under those conditions.
Something has got to explain how/why Flanno looks like he does.
James Pearce @JamesPearceEcho 32m32 minutes ago
@Moelbongo Sorry, I meant nothing new. I still expect Origi to arrive later this month. Club confident of reaching a deal.
@Moelbongo Sorry, I meant nothing new. I still expect Origi to arrive later this month. Club confident of reaching a deal.
I don't share the idea that he will be under huge pressure because our other strikers have failed to deliver. To me that makes it easier. Would you rather be a kid like N'gog being compared to Fernando Torres every week or Origi coming in now being compared to Ballotelli and Lambert? Anfield won't get on his back. I know that.
And it seems strange to me that this forum is quick to recognise the potential pressure that Origi could be under, but isn't so readily generous enough to apply that to Sterling following an average performance.
And it seems strange to me that this forum is quick to recognise the potential pressure that Origi could be under, but isn't so readily generous enough to apply that to Sterling following an average performance.
It obviously worked whenwe brought Sturridge and Coutinho in...
There is no certain way of turning things around. You may all well be over reacting.
Anyway on the rumor of him coming early....i wont believe until i see it come out of his wife/gf's mouth...
It obviously worked whenwe brought Sturridge and Coutinho in...
There is no certain way of turning things around. You may all well be over reacting.
Anyway on the rumor of him coming early....i wont believe until i see it come out of his wife/gf's mouth...
We got very lucky last season with injuries which was largely due to playing far fewer games than usual. This season we are still in all competitions (albeit from CL to Europa thingy) and in the 2nd half of the season we will get more injuries and players feeling the pace. To that end I would not only bring in Origi I would recall Ibe (especially with Lallana being out for a month).
Ibe is now 19 and should be ready for the EPL and by giving him game-time in the Europa league it will prepare him for next season's Champions League.
Ibe is now 19 and should be ready for the EPL and by giving him game-time in the Europa league it will prepare him for next season's Champions League.
United have far far more injuries this season than last .... playing far fewer games. Chelsea are unbelievable as they are bottom of the number of games lost to injuries table yet have the toughest fixture list.
He's more of a Buxton man.
Another 5million quid ontop of the 10 for a young lad that might not get many games in the 2nd half of the season when Sturridge is back and we've got 3 other strikers already? Mental.
Actually that fee is not crazy at all. It's probably just about right. Delph is free in the Summer but £7m+ if anyone wants him now ... plenty of other examples out there of 'Frees' off-loaded for good dosh with just months to go.
Don't agree with it though. We should be after someone with a proven record and not just potential if we are to get Top 4 and win the EL.
Don't agree with it though. We should be after someone with a proven record and not just potential if we are to get Top 4 and win the EL.
Exactly - and if Sturridge manages to remain fit for the season and Origi's appearances are limited then it'll just be good for him to be part of the squad in training like you say. Worth it for quality cover in the EL as playing Studge twice a week after a series of injuries is suicide. Maybe the fact we only played once a week last season explains why he was fit for so much of it?
we were clearly never going to buy someone else when this lad is waiting over the channel.
Makes zero sense business wise. Id also argue that with the figure we've paid and apparently have to top up, that he must be capable already. You don't spend £16m on someone who's not ready, at least we shouldn't be/cant . That's. The sort of thing city or Chelsea can do but not us
Makes zero sense business wise. Id also argue that with the figure we've paid and apparently have to top up, that he must be capable already. You don't spend £16m on someone who's not ready, at least we shouldn't be/cant . That's. The sort of thing city or Chelsea can do but not us
mm, quite true. Potential vs impact.
You simply cant rely on potential* when your only striker is out for the season, not strictly Mr Rodgers fault but he's certainly left us wide open with summer disaster recovery plan..
*big fan of Lallana and Lazar etc and will go on to be very valuable players for us. Infact, its wrong to even include Lallana in that category.
You simply cant rely on potential* when your only striker is out for the season, not strictly Mr Rodgers fault but he's certainly left us wide open with summer disaster recovery plan..
*big fan of Lallana and Lazar etc and will go on to be very valuable players for us. Infact, its wrong to even include Lallana in that category.
Rodgers (or the committee) main problem was the lack of impact Mario has had, that risk assessment (or gamble) failed. So Sturridge then became the one and only striker. Lambert was always going to be 3rd choice and Borini .. well, BR wanted rid. Granted, if Mario had scored against Spurs when he came on, his attitude may have been better. He looks and plays like a man with the world on his shoulders and, with his attitude, needs more coaching for him to step up. With Sturridge's injury recorded becoming more of a problem then expected, we're very short of a strike force.
So, you're right from a business perspective. Accelerate the arrival of Origi and gamble on potential.
Didn't we buy for around 10/11 million?
Thats another 50% to his transfer just to have him 6 months early, which is a bit steep even when we are desperate
Delph would go go for 18/20 million if he had longer contract
How do you know the original price wasn't £20m but we negotiated a drop in price if he stayed for another season? Check out how much Lazar cost us.
@Jay_78_: "@GFN_France: Lille reach provisional agreement for loan of Benfica striker http://t.co/VoWDqnmYSZ" Origi to #LFC should speed up now...
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