No chance of Mascherano staying
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The other top teams in the Prem will be absolutely made up if/when he goes.
I've been annoyed with his press comments over the Summer, but his attitude and performance yesterday reminded me how good he actually is, he also made a great pass for the goal after showing good anticipation to jump on the loose ball. And his overall passion and determination was a joy to watch.
Fantastic performance and I'm genuinely gutted at the prospect of us losing him, even if it is financially for the great good of the team.
Fantastic performance and I'm genuinely gutted at the prospect of us losing him, even if it is financially for the great good of the team.
Great video. I actually felt sorry for a lot of the players he clattered.
I thought it was interesting how many times in such a brief clip he actually set N'Gog up with a pass, especially in light of yesterday.
I don't want to sell him. Period. Fuck Inter. Fuck Barca. I want his wife to somehow be happy or for her to die and Javier somehow hold Ferguson responsible.
I thought it was interesting how many times in such a brief clip he actually set N'Gog up with a pass, especially in light of yesterday.
I don't want to sell him. Period. Fuck Inter. Fuck Barca. I want his wife to somehow be happy or for her to die and Javier somehow hold Ferguson responsible.
Why cant she just learn English & make some bloody scouse friends.
I bet everyone would love to be friends with her... If only she would try.
I bet everyone would love to be friends with her... If only she would try.
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I bet everyone would love to be friends with her... If only she would try
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No. She's a bitch. Nobody likes her. Nobody at all.
I bet everyone would love to be friends with her... If only she would try
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No. She's a bitch. Nobody likes her. Nobody at all.
Even her imaginery friend hates her
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[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41395.msg1155883#msg1155883 date=1282020364]
I bet everyone would love to be friends with her... If only she would try
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No. She's a bitch. Nobody likes her. Nobody at all.
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Footballers have such a limited time, you think she would just be happy to put up with it, spoilt cow...
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I bet everyone would love to be friends with her... If only she would try
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No. She's a bitch. Nobody likes her. Nobody at all.
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Footballers have such a limited time, you think she would just be happy to put up with it, spoilt cow...
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I doubt his wife has much to do with it.
It's an easy PR story for him to put out, and it seems to be working quite well for him.
It's an easy PR story for him to put out, and it seems to be working quite well for him.
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She could have stayed in Spain, with Mascherano paying her occasional conjugal visits! After all, the wives of servicemen or merchant navy crew have to accept that for a much longer time.
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This is the most sensible suggestion so far. Great on yer. Nowadays a flight to Spain might just be 2 hours away?
She could have stayed in Spain, with Mascherano paying her occasional conjugal visits! After all, the wives of servicemen or merchant navy crew have to accept that for a much longer time.
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This is the most sensible suggestion so far. Great on yer. Nowadays a flight to Spain might just be 2 hours away?
I really do like our stance on this, we are painting inter (Rafa) into a corner, and if it is true Mascher is being sensible about it, good on him.
Roy Hodgson has warned Internazionale he is prepared to hold Javier Mascherano to his contract and let him leave Liverpool on a free transfer in 2012 rather than accept a cut-price offer for the Argentina captain.
Liverpool are only prepared to sanction a departure, Hodgson revealed, because of a gentleman's agreement made when Mascherano was refused a move to Barcelona last year.
Inter, the European champions, were linked with the midfielder before they appointed the former Liverpool manager Rafael BenÃtez as José Mourinho's successor in June. Italian officials have since held talks with their Anfield counterparts, Mascherano and his agent, Walter Tamer, and have frequently talked up a reunion with BenÃtez. But, almost a week after receiving £22.5m from Manchester City for Mario Balotelli, the Italian club have not made an offer for the 26-year-old.
Mascherano will miss Europa League play-off first leg against Trabzonspor with a calf injury. But Hodgson has told the midfielder to prepare for an extended stay should Inter fail to meet the asking price of £25m and admits an agreement struck last summer, when he was priced out of a move to Barcelona and asked to give the club one more season, has forced him to consider a sale.
Hodgson, who insisted Dirk Kuyt, another potential Inter target, is not for sale, said: "We want an offer that meets what we think is his value, and Javier is perfectly happy with this. He doesn't expect the club to just let him walk out of here. He hopes that a club comes in where he could be reunited with his family, which is the major problem for him, that offers us what he is worth and we accept that. But he has also made it clear that he doesn't regard it as a hardship to play for Liverpool football club. In fact, the reverse. It's because of a family matter he wants to go.
"I'm very happy he remains with us because, in an ideal world, if it was simply a situation of would we be prepared to listen to offers for Mascherano, I would say 'no.' I don't care what money is offered. It's only a promise that was made a year ago that lingers over my head, which means I am even prepared to go as far as this."
Mascherano's wife and young children have not moved to Liverpool, a club he joined in February 2007, but Hodgson is confident Liverpool, who offered the Argentinian a contract extension at the end of last season, will not have a disillusioned player to contend with if he is forced to honour his current deal until 2012.
"He realises he is a very valuable player, the best at what he does in the world, and a club has to come along and offer us what he is worth," the Liverpool manager said. "If that happens, and we said yet again no and reneged on what we'd said to him earlier, then we'd have an unhappy player. But we won't have an unhappy player if no offer comes in or if the offer comes in and is so ludicrously below what he, I and the rest of the world knows he is worth.
"He has a new contract offer, so that's up to him. As far as I am concerned, I'd be quite happy to work the two years with him. If he then wanted to walk away, then so be it. The nicest thing of all would be if he signed a new contract – it's there for him. But nobody is putting him under any pressure."
Daniel Agger will also be absent against Trabzonspor due to the concussion he suffered against Arsenal on Sunday. "He has no memory of the game whatsoever. He is not doing too well," Hodgson said.
But Christian Poulsen, the £4.5m signing, will make his debut, possibly in place of the rested Steven Gerrard, while Fernando Torres is fit to make his first start although, with Manchester City away on Monday a priority for Hodgson, the Spaniard is expected to be on the bench. "Fernando is very keen to start and I haven't made my mind up yet," he said. "I don't know if he is up to two games in four days. I would think he could do that, though. He's worked very hard since he rejoined with us but what we must remember with Fernando, Pepe Reina, Dirk Kuyt and Ryan Babel is that they are doing a pre-season with games going on around them. We have to not be blinded by the fact they are three to four weeks behind."
Liverpool will allow Diego Cavalieri to hold talks with the Serie A newcomers Cesena, having completed the £2.3m signing of Brad Jones from Middlesbrough. "Diego will be the substitute goalkeeper tomorrow. Then he will travel to Cesena for a medical," Hodgson said. The manager also confirmed an interest in the PSV Eindhoven striker Ola Toivonen.
Roy Hodgson has warned Internazionale he is prepared to hold Javier Mascherano to his contract and let him leave Liverpool on a free transfer in 2012 rather than accept a cut-price offer for the Argentina captain.
Liverpool are only prepared to sanction a departure, Hodgson revealed, because of a gentleman's agreement made when Mascherano was refused a move to Barcelona last year.
Inter, the European champions, were linked with the midfielder before they appointed the former Liverpool manager Rafael BenÃtez as José Mourinho's successor in June. Italian officials have since held talks with their Anfield counterparts, Mascherano and his agent, Walter Tamer, and have frequently talked up a reunion with BenÃtez. But, almost a week after receiving £22.5m from Manchester City for Mario Balotelli, the Italian club have not made an offer for the 26-year-old.
Mascherano will miss Europa League play-off first leg against Trabzonspor with a calf injury. But Hodgson has told the midfielder to prepare for an extended stay should Inter fail to meet the asking price of £25m and admits an agreement struck last summer, when he was priced out of a move to Barcelona and asked to give the club one more season, has forced him to consider a sale.
Hodgson, who insisted Dirk Kuyt, another potential Inter target, is not for sale, said: "We want an offer that meets what we think is his value, and Javier is perfectly happy with this. He doesn't expect the club to just let him walk out of here. He hopes that a club comes in where he could be reunited with his family, which is the major problem for him, that offers us what he is worth and we accept that. But he has also made it clear that he doesn't regard it as a hardship to play for Liverpool football club. In fact, the reverse. It's because of a family matter he wants to go.
"I'm very happy he remains with us because, in an ideal world, if it was simply a situation of would we be prepared to listen to offers for Mascherano, I would say 'no.' I don't care what money is offered. It's only a promise that was made a year ago that lingers over my head, which means I am even prepared to go as far as this."
Mascherano's wife and young children have not moved to Liverpool, a club he joined in February 2007, but Hodgson is confident Liverpool, who offered the Argentinian a contract extension at the end of last season, will not have a disillusioned player to contend with if he is forced to honour his current deal until 2012.
"He realises he is a very valuable player, the best at what he does in the world, and a club has to come along and offer us what he is worth," the Liverpool manager said. "If that happens, and we said yet again no and reneged on what we'd said to him earlier, then we'd have an unhappy player. But we won't have an unhappy player if no offer comes in or if the offer comes in and is so ludicrously below what he, I and the rest of the world knows he is worth.
"He has a new contract offer, so that's up to him. As far as I am concerned, I'd be quite happy to work the two years with him. If he then wanted to walk away, then so be it. The nicest thing of all would be if he signed a new contract – it's there for him. But nobody is putting him under any pressure."
Daniel Agger will also be absent against Trabzonspor due to the concussion he suffered against Arsenal on Sunday. "He has no memory of the game whatsoever. He is not doing too well," Hodgson said.
But Christian Poulsen, the £4.5m signing, will make his debut, possibly in place of the rested Steven Gerrard, while Fernando Torres is fit to make his first start although, with Manchester City away on Monday a priority for Hodgson, the Spaniard is expected to be on the bench. "Fernando is very keen to start and I haven't made my mind up yet," he said. "I don't know if he is up to two games in four days. I would think he could do that, though. He's worked very hard since he rejoined with us but what we must remember with Fernando, Pepe Reina, Dirk Kuyt and Ryan Babel is that they are doing a pre-season with games going on around them. We have to not be blinded by the fact they are three to four weeks behind."
Liverpool will allow Diego Cavalieri to hold talks with the Serie A newcomers Cesena, having completed the £2.3m signing of Brad Jones from Middlesbrough. "Diego will be the substitute goalkeeper tomorrow. Then he will travel to Cesena for a medical," Hodgson said. The manager also confirmed an interest in the PSV Eindhoven striker Ola Toivonen.
So his wife hasn't even moved here and given it a go?
I seen masch in town a few months ago with a women and a kid, unless she was just visiting. I'm sure she did live here at one point.
That confused me too. I have seen him in Tesco with her, so she must come on extended visits
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I am still convinced he will still be a Liverpool player come September. I think after Sun's performance his heart is still in it. Just needs to sort the missus out.
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I can see Mascherano staying. Roy is adamant that he'll not be sold on the cheap and its great that he is taking a hardline. We've been caught with our pants down a few times and don't want a repeat of the MO saga.
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we played hardball with real regarding Alonso and we got £30 M
I can see Mascherano staying. Roy is adamant that he'll not be sold on the cheap and its great that he is taking a hardline. We've been caught with our pants down a few times and don't want a repeat of the MO saga.
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we played hardball with real regarding Alonso and we got £30 M
Btw regarding Mascherano's wife. What a bitch.
I haven't got a wife but if my girlfriend refused to visit me while I'm abroad for lengthy period of time because she dislikes the city I live in, I'd be fucking livid. I'd understand if it was Johannesburg or South Cental LA, but fuck me it's Liverpool.
He better keep his bitch in check.
I haven't got a wife but if my girlfriend refused to visit me while I'm abroad for lengthy period of time because she dislikes the city I live in, I'd be fucking livid. I'd understand if it was Johannesburg or South Cental LA, but fuck me it's Liverpool.
He better keep his bitch in check.
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[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41395.msg1156979#msg1156979 date=1282197349]
I can see Mascherano staying. Roy is adamant that he'll not be sold on the cheap and its great that he is taking a hardline. We've been caught with our pants down a few times and don't want a repeat of the MO saga.
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we played hardball with real regarding Alonso and we got £30 M
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Exactly my point! For the record, there ain't nothing wrong with Johannesburg!
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I can see Mascherano staying. Roy is adamant that he'll not be sold on the cheap and its great that he is taking a hardline. We've been caught with our pants down a few times and don't want a repeat of the MO saga.
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we played hardball with real regarding Alonso and we got £30 M
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Exactly my point! For the record, there ain't nothing wrong with Johannesburg!
We are playing this right, but I don't share the optimism that he will stay, I think there's a mutual respect between us and Masher and that's as far as it goes. As Roy said, in an ideal World he'd stay, he clearly has no problem with the club and loves just playing football, we're just incredibly lucky that we've got a player who has some scruples, loyalty and dignity about him to not act the twat and hold the club to ransom.
Fair play to Javier and Roy over this.
Fair play to Javier and Roy over this.
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Whatever happens in this particular case I think it's fair to say that Roy has so far done a tremendous job with the club.
Despite having thought (and still thinking, if I'm honest) that Kenny should have been given the job pending a change of ownership, I'm pleased to agree with you and compliment Roy for the start he's made. It is just a start, as he himself would probably tell you, but it's a decent one.
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41395.msg1157156#msg1157156 date=1282219939]
Despite having thought (and still thinking, if I'm honest) that Kenny should have been given the job pending a change of ownership, I'm pleased to agree with you and compliment Roy for the start he's made. It is just a start, as he himself would probably tell you, but it's a decent one.
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Every big journey starts with the first step and in this case it's been a solid one. Right foot firmly placed in front of the left-style.
Whether he'll then tremble and hurt is knee is yet to be seen.
At least we can enjoy the positive feel surrounding the club for a moment and the cudos should also go Uncle Roys way as we can agree upon.
I like to be in agreement with the Judge.
Despite having thought (and still thinking, if I'm honest) that Kenny should have been given the job pending a change of ownership, I'm pleased to agree with you and compliment Roy for the start he's made. It is just a start, as he himself would probably tell you, but it's a decent one.
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Every big journey starts with the first step and in this case it's been a solid one. Right foot firmly placed in front of the left-style.
Whether he'll then tremble and hurt is knee is yet to be seen.
At least we can enjoy the positive feel surrounding the club for a moment and the cudos should also go Uncle Roys way as we can agree upon.
I like to be in agreement with the Judge.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41395.msg1157156#msg1157156 date=1282219939]
Despite having thought (and still thinking, if I'm honest) that Kenny should have been given the job pending a change of ownership, I'm pleased to agree with you and compliment Roy for the start he's made. It is just a start, as he himself would probably tell you, but it's a decent one.
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While history will judge his tenure as our manager based on the results he achieves on the football pitch, so far in my opinion he has done very well off it. Despite reservations on his appointment, I can find no significent fault with how he has managed the team so far.
I still suspect though, that bar an incredibly successful first season, he will be under huge pressure when the new money comes into the club, and there will be temptation on the new owners part to replace him with a "big name" manager. I doubt if his Liverpool carreer will last beyond two seasons at most.
Hope I am wrong though as it would indicate that he is doing a lot right and little wrong if he is to last much longer.
Despite having thought (and still thinking, if I'm honest) that Kenny should have been given the job pending a change of ownership, I'm pleased to agree with you and compliment Roy for the start he's made. It is just a start, as he himself would probably tell you, but it's a decent one.
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While history will judge his tenure as our manager based on the results he achieves on the football pitch, so far in my opinion he has done very well off it. Despite reservations on his appointment, I can find no significent fault with how he has managed the team so far.
I still suspect though, that bar an incredibly successful first season, he will be under huge pressure when the new money comes into the club, and there will be temptation on the new owners part to replace him with a "big name" manager. I doubt if his Liverpool carreer will last beyond two seasons at most.
Hope I am wrong though as it would indicate that he is doing a lot right and little wrong if he is to last much longer.
The Liverpool manager said: "We haven't had an offer for him. We want an offer that meets what we think is his value, and Javier is perfectly happy with this.
"He doesn't expect the club to just let him walk out of here. He hopes that a club comes in where he could be reunited with his family, which is the major problem for him, that offers us what he is worth and we accept that.
"But he has also made it clear that he doesn't regard it as a hardship to play for Liverpool Football Club. In fact, it's the reverse. It's because of family matters that he wants to go.
"He is resigned to one of two possibilities - either a club doesn't come along and offer us his valuation, in which case he stays, or we have an offer that meets his valuation, in which case he may go."
"He doesn't expect the club to just let him walk out of here. He hopes that a club comes in where he could be reunited with his family, which is the major problem for him, that offers us what he is worth and we accept that.
"But he has also made it clear that he doesn't regard it as a hardship to play for Liverpool Football Club. In fact, it's the reverse. It's because of family matters that he wants to go.
"He is resigned to one of two possibilities - either a club doesn't come along and offer us his valuation, in which case he stays, or we have an offer that meets his valuation, in which case he may go."
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Btw regarding Mascherano's wife. What a bitch.
I haven't got a wife but if my girlfriend refused to visit me while I'm abroad for lengthy period of time because she dislikes the city I live in, I'd be fucking livid. I'd understand if it was Johannesburg or South Cental LA, but fuck me it's Liverpool.
He better keep his bitch in check.
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Please tell me this a joke or at the least tongue in cheek?
If not why is this misogynistic shite tolerated? She's a human being and she's not happy where she is. I'd suggest you check out wedding vows before you ever strike lucky and get married. Its a partnership not a dictatorship.
Btw regarding Mascherano's wife. What a bitch.
I haven't got a wife but if my girlfriend refused to visit me while I'm abroad for lengthy period of time because she dislikes the city I live in, I'd be fucking livid. I'd understand if it was Johannesburg or South Cental LA, but fuck me it's Liverpool.
He better keep his bitch in check.
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Please tell me this a joke or at the least tongue in cheek?
If not why is this misogynistic shite tolerated? She's a human being and she's not happy where she is. I'd suggest you check out wedding vows before you ever strike lucky and get married. Its a partnership not a dictatorship.
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[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41395.msg1156991#msg1156991 date=1282198869]
Btw regarding Mascherano's wife. What a bitch.
I haven't got a wife but if my girlfriend refused to visit me while I'm abroad for lengthy period of time because she dislikes the city I live in, I'd be fucking livid. I'd understand if it was Johannesburg or South Cental LA, but fuck me it's Liverpool.
He better keep his bitch in check.
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Please tell me this a joke or at the least tongue in cheek?
If not why is this misogynistic shite tolerated? She's a human being and she's not happy where she is. I'd suggest you check out wedding vows before you ever strike lucky and get married. Its a partnership not a dictatorship.
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I mean every word of it (well except the bit about keeping her in check). It isn't about her not living there it's about her refusing to visit him.
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41395.msg1156991#msg1156991 date=1282198869]
Btw regarding Mascherano's wife. What a bitch.
I haven't got a wife but if my girlfriend refused to visit me while I'm abroad for lengthy period of time because she dislikes the city I live in, I'd be fucking livid. I'd understand if it was Johannesburg or South Cental LA, but fuck me it's Liverpool.
He better keep his bitch in check.
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Please tell me this a joke or at the least tongue in cheek?
If not why is this misogynistic shite tolerated? She's a human being and she's not happy where she is. I'd suggest you check out wedding vows before you ever strike lucky and get married. Its a partnership not a dictatorship.
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I mean every word of it (well except the bit about keeping her in check). It isn't about her not living there it's about her refusing to visit him.
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