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Ilori should be shown some faith, given a chance and supported, then we just might have a really classy defender in situ for many years.
 
gkmacca said:
Ilori should be shown some faith, given a chance and supported, then we just might have a really classy defender in situ for many years.
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Agree, put him ahead of toure in the squad. If Agger goes go, then we still need to sign a decent CB.
 
We really need to de-clutter. Get rid of all those who aren't in the plans. There's a neurotic fussiness about the number of so-so CBs we've got.
 
"Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven't informed me," he said. "Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn't right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I've got no business staying at Southampton.
"Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they [Southampton] paid nine million for me, so they would've earned twice the amount.
"At this point, I don't know what I'll do and I don't like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool."

He said he had addressed a letter to the club to make clear his feelings but no longer knew who was in charge of such decisions.
"Honestly, I don't know who the main man at the club is anymore," he said. "They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don't think they'll get it."
He added: "Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard 'You'll Never Walk Alone.' I would like to listen to it all the time."
Lovren, who arrived from Lyon a year ago, insisted he would not be looking to leave Southampton if the club had aimed higher.
"Look, I'd gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players," he said. "[If that had happened] not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me."
He added: "When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition," he said. "They gave me assurances about the project -- the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence.
"When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players -- they bought [Pablo Daniel] Osvaldo and [Victor] Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least."
He said that midway through the season, when concerns were raised over the direction of the club and Cortese ultimately left, he realised there were problems.
"No one knew who would take over the club," he said. "Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn't say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players.
"It was because of that I'd agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart."
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quotes like that would wreck your head if he was your player .

anyway just a matter of time or will we walk away ?
 
I don't like him talking about the amount at all. He has a point about the direction of Southampton.
 
Whilst one could say those quote where refreshingly honest, they were also shockingly disrespectful, you have to feel sorry for the Saints fans as that's some horrible stuff he's saying about the club.
 
I'm sure that's it. Players these days who want to leave clubs where they're established stars seem to think they have to try and create a legend around it all. It seemed to start with Cashley and his synthetic outrage at being offered "only" £55,000 a week by the Arse. Don't know why they bother.
 
I don't really see anything wrong in what he's said. It's a bit disappointing for Saints fans, sure, but they surely understand why players are jumping ship.
 
How about Giancarlo González? Any MLS fans tell us is he as boss in domestic footy as he has been for Costa Rica? Talk about a defensive leader. That guy held a line as rigid and straight as I've ever seen last night (not just to his credit, of course, but to his fellow players and manager). He has had an ace world cup, and has matched some of the best attacking footballers out there in the process. Anybody else think he's worth a look?
 
gkmacca said:
Ilori should be shown some faith, given a chance and supported, then we just might have a really classy defender in situ for many years.
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How much have you seen of him Macca ? I keep hearing very good things about him .. but maybe he is still not considered ready / mature enough for the EPL.
 
doctor_mac said:
How about Giancarlo González? Any MLS fans tell us is he as boss in domestic footy as he has been for Costa Rica? Talk about a defensive leader. That guy held a line as rigid and straight as I've ever seen last night (not just to his credit, of course, but to his fellow players and manager). He has had an ace world cup, and has matched some of the best attacking footballers out there in the process. Anybody else think he's worth a look?
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I've paid very little attention to Costa Rica but the guy knows how to play his part in an offside trap

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doctor_mac said:
How about Giancarlo González? Any MLS fans tell us is he as boss in domestic footy as he has been for Costa Rica? Talk about a defensive leader. That guy held a line as rigid and straight as I've ever seen last night (not just to his credit, of course, but to his fellow players and manager). He has had an ace world cup, and has matched some of the best attacking footballers out there in the process. Anybody else think he's worth a look?
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No, played in the league over here. Had a great WC but not good enough in the end.
 
re. Buying Lovren whilst slating Rodgers for buying Sakho. This coming season we are going to need 3/4 top quality CBs not just 2-3, if we are to make a concerted challenge for the the CL and PL. Therefore this transfer makes perfect sense to me in that we are not looking at just a regular two. We need 3 with 1-2 backups if injuries raise their ugly head. A leader, a high quality CB who can play either LCB or RCB and will add a few goals. Seems just about right for me, and I don't consider £20M a really big fee in today's market and at the inflated fees caused by everyone knowing PL clubs have hefty income from CL / PL / Sponsorship money. £20M is the new £10M.

 
Markeh said:
I've paid very little attention to Costa Rica but the guy knows how to play his part in an offside trap
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Figures like these are very misleading since they depend on so many factors including matches played, his team members, whether the team is an offensive/defensive team etc. and in Costa Rica's case at least, how many of them came against NL since they were under near constant pressure in that match.
 
Frogfish said:
Figures like these are very misleading since they depend on so many factors including matches played, his team members, whether the team is an offensive/defensive team etc. and in Costa Rica's case at least, how many of them came against NL since they were under near constant pressure in that match.
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Yes, but doesn't it suggest that they managed to negate a lot of that pressure through an amazingly disciplined off-side trap?
 
doctor_mac said:
Yes, but doesn't it suggest that they managed to negate a lot of that pressure through an amazingly disciplined off-side trap?
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Like @Frogfish said I guess there are circumstances to most outlying stats but it does say competent defence to me.

13 against Holland, maybe they played for them but it would still be way more than anyone else with those removed and it's not like the they faced 2 Djibril Cisse's every match.
 
Markeh said:
Like @Frogfish said I guess there are circumstances to most outlying stats but it does say competent defence to me.

13 against Holland, maybe they played for them but it would still be way more than anyone else with those removed and it's not like the they faced 2 Djibril Cisse's every match.
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Ouch! but I LOL'd 😀
 
We have two 30yo CBs, it's not surprising we will need to replace them at some point, before we end up doing a Ferdinand and Vidic style fuck up
 
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