"If you are first you are first. If you are second, you are nothing."
I'm going to say that to the wife after sex.
"If you are first you are first. If you are second, you are nothing."
Or it could be just papering over the cracks of a stagnating regime like at the Arsenal in recent years.I think winning the tin pots is a symptom of where your club is at in terms of being a challenger in major comps. You win these pots because you have strength in depth, a seam of quality that runs well beyond a first 11. Having that gives you a great chance in the domestic cups, but of course, it is exactly this quality that divides potential champions from 'top 4'. What has held Spurs and ourselves back in the league, and what ultimately cost us in the CL final last year, is that lack of depth. So I think the whole 'culture of winning' is less important than that deep, velvety squad.
Of winning nothing?Frankly I'd turn that right back at you. The blueslime would have given their eye teeth for the occasional domestic pot over the years. We have far bigger fish to fry.
I don't think that papered over the cracks. People knew arsenal were fucked and with little future.Or it could be just papering over the cracks of a stagnating regime like at the Arsenal in recent years.
I don't think that papered over the cracks. People knew arsenal were fucked and with little future.
Not really though is it.That is literally what papering over the cracks means, you fucking halfwit.
I get and agree with the ideal, but at the moment we need to cultivate a winning atmosphere. Twat the league cup or FA cup, and that might help us if we get the CL final againI don't give a shit about the domestic cups. I'd rather be a CL finalist that an FA Cup winner as it means you've had a load of boss games and the chance of something great. An FA Cup can be an easy draw and no matter what, you end up in that shithole Wembley. I wouldn't even be arsed going to the final.
I don't give a shit about the domestic cups. I'd rather be a CL finalist that an FA Cup winner as it means you've had a load of boss games and the chance of something great. An FA Cup can be an easy draw and no matter what, you end up in that shithole Wembley. I wouldn't even be arsed going to the final.
There's a difference between sustainable and flash in the pan. Rodgers was flash in the pan, as he only did something of note in one season. We won a trophy with an awful side under Kenny, and that's because he instilled the right mentality. Klopp has started that with us, but we seem to have a mental block when it comes to actually winning a fucking thing. The duck needs breaking, and then it'll all knit together nicelyAre people advocating winning the league cup to gain this winning mentality/atmosphere aware of how we did when Kenny last won it with us? When he got the sack, were you all slamming the decision, saying no, we might not have got into the top 4 but we have the winning mentality now? (I have the utmost respect for Dalglish so not trying to attack him)
Did the league cup help us the following season under Rodgers? Or did team building under Rodgers in his first season, having won nothing, help us get within a whisker of winning the league instead of outside the top 4?
Winning the league cup would be great and all but there's no point going all out for it with our current squad. Our focus should be on the PL and CL. Even that's really really tough.
Why all this either/or stuff?
I'd settle for winning ANYTHING this season.
Why not use all our energy into gaining this winning mentality by going for the title? Why risk our league and CL form by risking our best players?There's a difference between sustainable and flash in the pan. Rodgers was flash in the pan, as he only did something of note in one season. We won a trophy with an awful side under Kenny, and that's because he instilled the right mentality. Klopp has started that with us, but we seem to have a mental block when it comes to actually winning a fucking thing. The duck needs breaking, and then it'll all knit together nicely
There's a difference between sustainable and flash in the pan. Rodgers was flash in the pan, as he only did something of note in one season. We won a trophy with an awful side under Kenny, and that's because he instilled the right mentality. Klopp has started that with us, but we seem to have a mental block when it comes to actually winning a fucking thing. The duck needs breaking, and then it'll all knit together nicely
Beautiful Woland ... you really are man. Well put..this is how we should all feel.I don't give a shit about the domestic cups. I'd rather be a CL finalist that an FA Cup winner as it means you've had a load of boss games and the chance of something great. An FA Cup can be an easy draw and no matter what, you end up in that shithole Wembley. I wouldn't even be arsed going to the final.
It was the start of something, you could see players were fighting when it mattered. Polar opposite to most other years.The right mentality? That was the season in which we had the worst Anfield record for over half a century, scored the least goals and finished 8th.
Excellent pointI wouldn't settle for it, but we do need to win something. We don't want to go all Arsenal and just keep qualifying. Mourinho always starts by aiming to win the league cup, and it's one of the few sensible things that he's done. It just takes that bit of pressure off, while setting the team up for greater challenges.
I quite like the old Brendan. So fuck you.I hope everyone is enjoying my new polite, logical and inclusive "voice of reason" persona
I hope everyone is enjoying my new polite, logical and inclusive "voice of reason" persona
I wouldn't settle for it, but we do need to win something. We don't want to go all Arsenal and just keep qualifying. Mourinho always starts by aiming to win the league cup, and it's one of the few sensible things that he's done. It just takes that bit of pressure off, while setting the team up for greater challenges.
I quite like the old Brendan. So fuck you.
The Andy Goram of 6CM.
Well at least the old you was funny. The new you is a boring cunt. Can’t you somehow schizophrenically combine the two?And people wonder why I'm conflicted