These have been shite. Before they scored that jammy goal we battered them.
If we get at them early we can win this.
If we get at them early we can win this.
Match thread Liverpool - Aston Villa
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[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931645#msg931645 date=1251144216]
[quote author=ankreds link=topic=35437.msg931637#msg931637 date=1251143954]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931624#msg931624 date=1251143812]
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.
Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
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Carras hoofing has reached an all time low its just severely depressing.
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It's very worrying. Without Alonso, it seems like he's got even less confidence playing a short ball to Lucas or Mascher. He makes a great interception and then hoofs the ball to the opposition, and alas we're back on the defensive hoping Carra makes another interception. *shakes head*
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second that.
Boy oh boy do we miss alonso *cries*
[quote author=ankreds link=topic=35437.msg931637#msg931637 date=1251143954]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931624#msg931624 date=1251143812]
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.
Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
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Carras hoofing has reached an all time low its just severely depressing.
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It's very worrying. Without Alonso, it seems like he's got even less confidence playing a short ball to Lucas or Mascher. He makes a great interception and then hoofs the ball to the opposition, and alas we're back on the defensive hoping Carra makes another interception. *shakes head*
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second that.
Boy oh boy do we miss alonso *cries*
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35437.msg931639#msg931639 date=1251144022]
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=35437.msg931618#msg931618 date=1251143727]
We'll win.
[/quote] I've bet we'll win 4-2 only 18/1..
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and after i hope lucas heads in the 5th hahahah ill laugh myself to sleep
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=35437.msg931618#msg931618 date=1251143727]
We'll win.
[/quote] I've bet we'll win 4-2 only 18/1..
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and after i hope lucas heads in the 5th hahahah ill laugh myself to sleep
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35437.msg931635#msg931635 date=1251143905]
Villa have flooded the midfield and we're having the ball intercepted time and again. We need to get at them down the flanks.
I think Riera on is a good shout.
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Thing is we knew this before a ball was kicked. We should have been able to cope with this 5 man midfield and use the pace of Johnson - Insua is having a stinker though.
BTW did the Davies goal come off his shoulder ? Not a clear stream.
Villa have flooded the midfield and we're having the ball intercepted time and again. We need to get at them down the flanks.
I think Riera on is a good shout.
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Thing is we knew this before a ball was kicked. We should have been able to cope with this 5 man midfield and use the pace of Johnson - Insua is having a stinker though.
BTW did the Davies goal come off his shoulder ? Not a clear stream.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=35437.msg931643#msg931643 date=1251144190]
Zonal marking blah blah fucking blah.
I hate fucking pundits & commentators. I really fucking do. They talk utter utter shite.
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It's great when it works Jon but there are clearly issues with us getting up to speed with it, especially at this stage of the season. Torres and Carra both got caught under the ball, one of them should have been infront of the player, they were both marking the space behind him.
Zonal marking blah blah fucking blah.
I hate fucking pundits & commentators. I really fucking do. They talk utter utter shite.
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It's great when it works Jon but there are clearly issues with us getting up to speed with it, especially at this stage of the season. Torres and Carra both got caught under the ball, one of them should have been infront of the player, they were both marking the space behind him.
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=35437.msg931628#msg931628 date=1251143855]
Move Yossi to play off Torres, Gerrard back in midfield and bring Riera on for Lucas. It has to be done at half time and not with 15 to go.
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Exactly my thinking. Hopefully conceding that stupid 2nd goal will force Rafa do take radical measures.
Move Yossi to play off Torres, Gerrard back in midfield and bring Riera on for Lucas. It has to be done at half time and not with 15 to go.
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Exactly my thinking. Hopefully conceding that stupid 2nd goal will force Rafa do take radical measures.
[quote author=Bristow link=topic=35437.msg931633#msg931633 date=1251143900]
[quote author=Bernowatson link=topic=35437.msg931616#msg931616 date=1251143702]
sorry but this formation isnt working without Xabi.
We need to play to our strengths.....
442
Torres Babel
Riera Masher Gerrard Kuyt
We wont win shit with this 4231 formation now
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Having Babel in the team isn't playing to our strengths. And Kuyt isn't winger who could play in a 442
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Sorry but i cant stand this fucking benayoun love in......
He loses the fucking ball all the time, either trying to run through brick walls or getting smashed out of the game cos he is lightweight.
Babel has deserved a chance for 2 years up front and he is a better goal threat than most
[quote author=Bernowatson link=topic=35437.msg931616#msg931616 date=1251143702]
sorry but this formation isnt working without Xabi.
We need to play to our strengths.....
442
Torres Babel
Riera Masher Gerrard Kuyt
We wont win shit with this 4231 formation now
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Having Babel in the team isn't playing to our strengths. And Kuyt isn't winger who could play in a 442
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Sorry but i cant stand this fucking benayoun love in......
He loses the fucking ball all the time, either trying to run through brick walls or getting smashed out of the game cos he is lightweight.
Babel has deserved a chance for 2 years up front and he is a better goal threat than most
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35437.msg931653#msg931653 date=1251144287]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=35437.msg931643#msg931643 date=1251144190]
Zonal marking blah blah fucking blah.
I hate fucking pundits & commentators. I really fucking do. They talk utter utter shite.
[/quote]
It's great when it works Jon but there are clearly issues with us getting up to speed with it, especially at this stage of the season. Torres and Carra both got caught under the ball, one of them should have been infront of the player, they were both marking the space behind him.
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That's individual error. That happens in man to man too. Not the system at fault.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=35437.msg931643#msg931643 date=1251144190]
Zonal marking blah blah fucking blah.
I hate fucking pundits & commentators. I really fucking do. They talk utter utter shite.
[/quote]
It's great when it works Jon but there are clearly issues with us getting up to speed with it, especially at this stage of the season. Torres and Carra both got caught under the ball, one of them should have been infront of the player, they were both marking the space behind him.
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That's individual error. That happens in man to man too. Not the system at fault.
We can do it. We have to play much fucking better and faster and harder than we did in that first half though.
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931645#msg931645 date=1251144216]
[quote author=ankreds link=topic=35437.msg931637#msg931637 date=1251143954]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931624#msg931624 date=1251143812]
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.
Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
[/quote]
Carras hoofing has reached an all time low its just severely depressing.
[/quote]
It's very worrying. Without Alonso, it seems like he's got even less confidence playing a short ball to Lucas or Mascher. He makes a great interception and then hoofs the ball to the opposition, and alas we're back on the defensive hoping Carra makes another interception. *shakes head*
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that pattern of play is exactly what happened at Spurs too
[quote author=ankreds link=topic=35437.msg931637#msg931637 date=1251143954]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931624#msg931624 date=1251143812]
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.
Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
[/quote]
Carras hoofing has reached an all time low its just severely depressing.
[/quote]
It's very worrying. Without Alonso, it seems like he's got even less confidence playing a short ball to Lucas or Mascher. He makes a great interception and then hoofs the ball to the opposition, and alas we're back on the defensive hoping Carra makes another interception. *shakes head*
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that pattern of play is exactly what happened at Spurs too
[quote author=jan link=topic=35437.msg931660#msg931660 date=1251144431]
Fucking hell Johnson
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What?
Fucking hell Johnson
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What?
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=35437.msg931654#msg931654 date=1251144291]
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=35437.msg931628#msg931628 date=1251143855]
Move Yossi to play off Torres, Gerrard back in midfield and bring Riera on for Lucas. It has to be done at half time and not with 15 to go.
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Exactly my thinking. Hopefully conceding that stupid 2nd goal will force Rafa do take radical measures.
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Nope.
It can be really frustrating, his pathological aversion to making a sub before the hour mark
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=35437.msg931628#msg931628 date=1251143855]
Move Yossi to play off Torres, Gerrard back in midfield and bring Riera on for Lucas. It has to be done at half time and not with 15 to go.
[/quote]
Exactly my thinking. Hopefully conceding that stupid 2nd goal will force Rafa do take radical measures.
[/quote]
Nope.
It can be really frustrating, his pathological aversion to making a sub before the hour mark
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35437.msg931665#msg931665 date=1251144617]
[quote author=Flanders link=topic=35437.msg931663#msg931663 date=1251144561]
Second half can't be any worse! Rafa needs to pass the smelling salts to the front four.
[/quote] And syanide to lucas..
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Did you mean: cyanide
[quote author=Flanders link=topic=35437.msg931663#msg931663 date=1251144561]
Second half can't be any worse! Rafa needs to pass the smelling salts to the front four.
[/quote] And syanide to lucas..
[/quote]
Did you mean: cyanide
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35437.msg931667#msg931667 date=1251144679]
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35437.msg931665#msg931665 date=1251144617]
[quote author=Flanders link=topic=35437.msg931663#msg931663 date=1251144561]
Second half can't be any worse! Rafa needs to pass the smelling salts to the front four.
[/quote] And syanide to lucas..
[/quote]
Did you mean: cyanide
[/quote] I did..
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35437.msg931665#msg931665 date=1251144617]
[quote author=Flanders link=topic=35437.msg931663#msg931663 date=1251144561]
Second half can't be any worse! Rafa needs to pass the smelling salts to the front four.
[/quote] And syanide to lucas..
[/quote]
Did you mean: cyanide
[/quote] I did..
i want to beat Joe Royle's face in with a lump hammer. Is that wrong?
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=35437.msg931669#msg931669 date=1251144730]
i want to beat Joe Royle's face in with a lump hammer. Is that wrong?
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Yea, wrong hammer selection.
i want to beat Joe Royle's face in with a lump hammer. Is that wrong?
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Yea, wrong hammer selection.
Glen Johnson looks like the only one likely to create anything.
Jesus, when Kuyt is bad, he is fucking septic.
off the ball movement is non existent bar torres & stevie.
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