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Match thread Liverpool - Aston Villa

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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=35437.msg931604#msg931604 date=1251143567]
get Riera on or something and maybe 2 strikers


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Rafa doesn't think we need strikers Rebel, he's happy to play a whole season of about 60games with just Torres and a few kids.
 
sorry but this formation isnt working without Xabi.

We need to play to our strengths.....

442

Torres Babel

Riera Masher Gerrard Kuyt

We wont win shit with this 4231 formation now
 
Torres moaning and not concentrating on hurting Villa by taking the game to them. Making it easy for them. Gerrard doesn't seem to give a fuck either. Only Reina and Johnson trying to up the tempo.

We need to get at them straight from the off, get a goal and hopefully they'll cave.
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=35437.msg931618#msg931618 date=1251143727]
We'll win.
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There's always one.

😉
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=35437.msg931618#msg931618 date=1251143727]
We'll win.
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9/2
 
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=35437.msg931612#msg931612 date=1251143682]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35437.msg931605#msg931605 date=1251143619]
Lucas off, Gerrard back. Riera on.


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is absolutely bang on!!!
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Yup, that's the one.

Play Yossi in his best position, give us some width
 
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.

Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
 
Move Yossi to play off Torres, Gerrard back in midfield and bring Riera on for Lucas. It has to be done at half time and not with 15 to go.
 
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=35437.msg931623#msg931623 date=1251143807]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=35437.msg931612#msg931612 date=1251143682]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35437.msg931605#msg931605 date=1251143619]
Lucas off, Gerrard back. Riera on.


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is absolutely bang on!!!
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Yup, that's the one.

Play Yossi in his best position, give us some width
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Yep, that's spot on.
 
[quote author=Bernowatson link=topic=35437.msg931616#msg931616 date=1251143702]
sorry but this formation isnt working without Xabi.

We need to play to our strengths.....

442

Torres Babel

Riera Masher Gerrard Kuyt

We wont win shit with this 4231 formation now
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Having Babel in the team isn't playing to our strengths. And Kuyt isn't winger who could play in a 442
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=35437.msg931619#msg931619 date=1251143744]
one quick goal in the opening 10 minutes and we will be back in this......


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No shit Sherlock. Yes, but the real mystery is why - when Rafa drones on and on about high tempo - do we nearly always play the first half too slow?
 
Villa have flooded the midfield and we're having the ball intercepted time and again. We need to get at them down the flanks.

I think Riera on is a good shout.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35437.msg931610#msg931610 date=1251143658]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35437.msg931595#msg931595 date=1251143453]
Oh fuck off Benitez.

Quit your moaning and instead teach our defence how to defend corners and set pieces. Argh
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Yes, the defence has been atrocious since he came. :🙂 Reina ought to be far too professional to lose his concentration in that situation, it just seemed inevitable what was going to happen. And Torres has been elbowed and kicked non-stop, but he's already been told to expect it and get on with the game. He's really in such a negative frame of mind right now.
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While he's a great defensive coach, we start every season sluggishly in defence and our marking from setpieces always takes a couple of months to get right. I think it's a massive issue and I mentioned it a few weeks back, inevitably it'll cost us. Last season we managed to claw back these sort of games, like the Boro one, let's hope we've got it in us to do it again.
 
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931624#msg931624 date=1251143812]
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.

Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
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Carras hoofing has reached an all time low its just severely depressing.
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=35437.msg931618#msg931618 date=1251143727]
We'll win.
[/quote] I've bet we'll win 4-2 only 18/1..
 
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35437.msg931639#msg931639 date=1251144022]
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=35437.msg931618#msg931618 date=1251143727]
We'll win.
[/quote] I've bet we'll win 4-2 only 18/1..
[/quote] I really wished I shared your confidence.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35437.msg931636#msg931636 date=1251143921]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35437.msg931610#msg931610 date=1251143658]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35437.msg931595#msg931595 date=1251143453]
Oh fuck off Benitez.

Quit your moaning and instead teach our defence how to defend corners and set pieces. Argh
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Yes, the defence has been atrocious since he came. :🙂 Reina ought to be far too professional to lose his concentration in that situation, it just seemed inevitable what was going to happen. And Torres has been elbowed and kicked non-stop, but he's already been told to expect it and get on with the game. He's really in such a negative frame of mind right now.
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While he's a great defensive coach, we start every season sluggishly in defence and our marking from setpieces always takes a couple of months to get right. I think it's a massive issue and I mentioned it a few weeks back, inevitably it'll cost us. Last season we managed to claw back these sort of games, like the Boro one, let's hope we've got it in us to do it again.
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Lets hope this is Man City part 2.

The change is obvious, since we are sacrificing width for our attack, Gerrard drops back, Riera is out wide, we still get to have Benayoun running the channels, which is of course, his position. I don't like Benayoun out left, ever. I don't like Gerrard out there, I don't like Babel out there. We only have one player who plays LM like a LM.

Oh, and we'll never make the change at half time, Rafa will prove a point and leave Lucas on all game. It isn't that he is a prime reason for our failure in general play either, though his one two punch own goal doesn't help, it's just that our best solution doesn't involve him.
 
Zonal marking blah blah fucking blah.

I hate fucking pundits & commentators. I really fucking do. They talk utter utter shite.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=35437.msg931613#msg931613 date=1251143683]
Ever since the first goal they've been first to everything. Our central midfield is non-existent. Masher is practically playing as a centre back and Lucas doesn't appear to want to accept the responsibility of channelling the play.

Of course, I'm not blaming Lucas for the performance but some people should be asking some serious questions of themselves in that dressing room.
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To be fair anytime he has passed it to Gerrard Torres and Kuyt it has come straight back to us. No cohesiveness and the majority of the team need to a kick up the arse at half time.
 
[quote author=ankreds link=topic=35437.msg931637#msg931637 date=1251143954]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35437.msg931624#msg931624 date=1251143812]
We simply can't pass the ball anymore.

Carra and Skrtel simply hoof it back to the opposition when they do get. Lucas and Mascherano aren't good passers themselves. There's simply no one in there anymore to get the ball through the midfield and to Torres+Gerrard. If we drop Gerrard back into midfield, we'll lose something upfront. We're pretty much fcuked right now.
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Carras hoofing has reached an all time low its just severely depressing.
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It's very worrying. Without Alonso, it seems like he's got even less confidence playing a short ball to Lucas or Mascher. He makes a great interception and then hoofs the ball to the opposition, and alas we're back on the defensive hoping Carra makes another interception. *shakes head*
 
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