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Martinez: FA favour Sir Alex Ferguson and Benitez has been unfairly treated.

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Wigan manager Roberto Martinez claims Sir Alex Ferguson has the football authorities in England gripped by fear and that his fellow Spaniard Rafa Benitez has been unfairly treated by the Manchester United manager and a group of staunch allies.

Martinez's complaint comes in the wake of Ferguson admitting an FA charge of improper conduct following his controversial comments about Alan Wiley's fitness earlier in the month. But the Wigan boss says any other manager in the Premier League would already have been 'crushed' by the governing body for making similar comments.

The outburst from Martinez will no doubt strike a chord with Benitez who last season infamously claimed that Ferguson received preferential treatment from the game's authorities as he attempted to lay bare the 'facts' that he said were favouring United.

Benitez said in January: "During the Respect campaign - and this is a fact - Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things."

In April, Benitez was then criticised by Blackburn Rovers manager Sam Allardyce for making a "disrespectful" gesture during a game, with the Spaniard accused of waving his hands as if to suggest the tie was over as a contest when Liverpool scored a second goal in a 4-0 victory. Ferguson subsequently accused the Spaniard of showing "contempt" to Allardyce, even though Benitez said his gesture had been misinterpreted.

Martinez now claims that Allardyce hopes to succeed Ferguson at United and that both he and Steve Bruce are willing allies of the United boss, who exercises too much power in the English game.

"They (the FA) have just sanctioned Ferguson for saying that referee was not fit enough and the truth is that they're almost apologising to him for punishing him,'' Martinez told Spanish newspaper AS. "Any other coach would have been crushed for that.

"Ferguson has been here for a lifetime and that carries a lot of weight. Ferguson has his group of faithfuls, people who are committed to him: Steve Bruce, who was a player with him, Sam Allardyce, who thinks he will be his successor at Old Trafford, and others. On the other side there's Rafa Benitez and he gets attacked from all sides."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=690483&sec=england&cc=3888

Interesting.
 
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Martinez now claims that Allardyce hopes to succeed Ferguson at United and that both he and Steve Bruce are willing allies of the United boss, who exercises too much power in the English game.

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Please god make this happen!

Ferguson does seem to get a special treatment from most people in English football. Is it changing now with those refs starting to hit back at him? We'll have to wait and see, I guess. And yes, there probably is a clique of Ferguson "yard managers", but that's only natural.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=36783.msg973211#msg973211 date=1256725864]
... lmfao.
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Is that you B-man?
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36783.msg973225#msg973225 date=1256726188]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=36783.msg973211#msg973211 date=1256725864]
... lmfao.
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Is that you B-man?
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Yes, I was just practising my yoofisms.
 
The whole thing wouldn't have gone anywhere near as far (had it happened at all) without Rafa's so-called "rant" last season. And this is a fact.
 
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36783.msg973225#msg973225 date=1256726188]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=36783.msg973211#msg973211 date=1256725864]
... lmfao.
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Is that you B-man?
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Yes, I was just practising my yoofisms.

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Ya nailed it fo shizzle B-Diddy.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=36783.msg973236#msg973236 date=1256726900]
The whole thing wouldn't have gone anywhere near as far (had it happened at all) without Rafa's so-called "rant" last season. And this is a fact.
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Yup. As some of us have been saying for ages, it was never going to take much to expose how flimsy Ginsoak's claim to be above the law really is. Just one or two well-chosen challenges and suddenly the old fool looks very vulnerable.

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Go compare...Go compare...
 
Martinez being spanish is coincidental. He is telling it like it is. Everyone panders to ol' whiskey nose. I like the fact that Rafa stands his ground and sticks to his principles regardless of his opposition.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=36783.msg973247#msg973247 date=1256727863]
Martinez being spanish is coincidental. He is telling it like it is. Everyone panders to ol' whiskey nose. I like the fact that Rafa stands his ground and sticks to his principles regardless of his opposition.
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Yep me too, love it.
 
Ain't that the truth. Oh please let it happen.

Rafa's self-confidence/stubbornness/mixture of both is a two-edged sword. It tends to lead to him being either spectacularly right or spectacularly wrong, and it would be interesting to know how often he went against the advice of others in some the poorer choices he's made.

Then again, sometimes it's his critics who are proven wrong in the end. Which of us anticipated Istanbul when we lost at home to b****y Graz in the qualifiers and just scraped into the group stage? I myself wasn't happy when he went public with his views on the Ferguson problem last season, but changed my mind as time went on and it became clear to me that the only other choice was to keep schtumm and let Ferguson continue to get away with murder. Rafa was brave enough to fire the first shot in what I'm sure he sees as a long campaign.
 
Yes, I find it a bit sad when I see Roy Evans looking pained on the topic when it's asked, because it suggests he's always been just a bit too nice and naive. Whenever someone criticises Ginsoak, Roy says, 'Ahh, he doesn't mean anything, he's a nice bloke, he was always great with me, I ignored the attacks, I knew they were for show, he'd have a drink with me later on' etc etc - yes, Roy, but he had you in his pocket!
 
"At 2-0 down they decided to throw the gameplan out of the window and tried to go and score three. It was naieve from the players point of view, I don't quite know where they got that from"

Sam Allardyce

It will be the beyond awesome if by Glazers decided to hire Sam Allardyce.
 
Surprise Surprise - he has denied making the comments

Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has "categorically denied" suggesting that the Football Association is afraid to punish his Manchester United counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson.


Roberto Martinez was appointed as Wigan manager in the summer.

Spanish publication AS reported on Tuesday that Martinez had commented on Ferguson's FA charge of improper conduct for comments made about Alan Wiley's physical condition - a charge which the United manager has admitted to - by suggesting that the governing body were treating the case too leniently due to the standing the Scot enjoys in the English game.

Martinez reputedly told the Spanish paper: "They (the FA) have just sanctioned Ferguson for saying that referee was not fit enough and the truth is that they're almost apologising to him for punishing him. Any other coach would have been crushed for that."

The report went on to claim that Martinez had labelled Sam Allardyce and Steve Bruce as Ferguson's "group of faithfuls" and that his fellow Spaniard Rafa Benitez had been unfairly treated during his time in England.

But in a statement published on the official website of the League Managers' Association on Wednesday, Martinez strongly denied making the inflammatory comments.

"Wigan Athletic manager, Roberto Martinez, has today [Wednesday] categorically denied making the comments about Sir Alex Ferguson that have been attributed to him in a number of media reports," a statement from the LMA read. " Martinez has referred the matter to the League Managers' Association."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=690535&sec=england&cc=5901
 
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"At 2-0 down they decided to throw the gameplan out of the window and tried to go and score three. It was naieve from the players point of view, I don't quite know where they got that from"

Sam Allardyce

It will be the beyond awesome if by Glazers decided to hire Sam Allardyce.
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Ha ha! What a tool he is.

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Ahhh, that's lovely, that, Sam, oooh.....slowly, mate, slowly, ahhhhh.....that's perfect...ooh, you're SO good at this Sam...
 
[quote author=peekay link=topic=36783.msg973293#msg973293 date=1256732919]
Surprise Surprise - he has denied making the comments

Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has "categorically denied" suggesting that the Football Association is afraid to punish his Manchester United counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson.


Roberto Martinez was appointed as Wigan manager in the summer.

Spanish publication AS reported on Tuesday that Martinez had commented on Ferguson's FA charge of improper conduct for comments made about Alan Wiley's physical condition - a charge which the United manager has admitted to - by suggesting that the governing body were treating the case too leniently due to the standing the Scot enjoys in the English game.

Martinez reputedly told the Spanish paper: "They (the FA) have just sanctioned Ferguson for saying that referee was not fit enough and the truth is that they're almost apologising to him for punishing him. Any other coach would have been crushed for that."

The report went on to claim that Martinez had labelled Sam Allardyce and Steve Bruce as Ferguson's "group of faithfuls" and that his fellow Spaniard Rafa Benitez had been unfairly treated during his time in England.

But in a statement published on the official website of the League Managers' Association on Wednesday, Martinez strongly denied making the inflammatory comments.

"Wigan Athletic manager, Roberto Martinez, has today [Wednesday] categorically denied making the comments about Sir Alex Ferguson that have been attributed to him in a number of media reports," a statement from the LMA read. " Martinez has referred the matter to the League Managers' Association."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=690535&sec=england&cc=5901
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Told you Whelan wouldn't like it.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36783.msg973283#msg973283 date=1256731629]
Yes, I find it a bit sad when I see Roy Evans looking pained on the topic when it's asked, because it suggests he's always been just a bit too nice and naive. Whenever someone criticises Ginsoak, Roy says, 'Ahh, he doesn't mean anything, he's a nice bloke, he was always great with me, I ignored the attacks, I knew they were for show, he'd have a drink with me later on' etc etc - yes, Roy, but he had you in his pocket!
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Uncle Roy's interventions on the subject are positively cringemaking. Either he's kidding himself, or he knows deep down that Ferguson had the Indian sign on him so he's covering up - and what does an ex-denizen of the Boot Room think he's doing taking public issue with the current Liverpool manager?
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36783.msg973274#msg973274 date=1256730771]
I've always liked Martinez.


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Since this week, so have I... 😉

Rage will hate him! Are you one of the 6?
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36783.msg973274#msg973274 date=1256730771]
I've always liked Martinez.


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Since this week, so have I... 😉

Rage will hate him! Are you one of the 6?
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Ha.

No i'm not one of them.
 
Martinez was probably sanctioned but this won't go away that easily and what does it really matter when its nothing but the truth. Feck Fergie and his cronies, he had to kiss the hand of Don Rafa after the match. For Fergie to admit that we the better team was big of him. He is still a twat though!
 
An indication of the changed atmosphere in the media surrounding this whole question - Collymore and Danny Kelly on TalkSport were both talking about it, and Collymore in particular was strongly critical of Ferguson. It's all good.
 
Collymore is schitzophrenic twat. Maybe that's exactly what you need to be a pundit. Nevertheless, I would be interested in the LMA comments on this situation.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=36783.msg973892#msg973892 date=1256766402]
Collymore is schitzophrenic twat. Maybe that's exactly what you need to be a pundit. Nevertheless, I would be interested in the LMA comments on this situation.
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Something like "Sir Ferguson, a pillar of the game and model for everything good about the game, is unfairly the subject of witch-hunt...."
 
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