Lucas

[mark1975]

Its all his fault, i'd love to see Rafa be more attacking at home, take off the shakles a bit. Take out kuyt and his shite first touch that slows down our attacks, take out that mediocre cunt lucas, we don't need him at home. And let's not get started on our shite left back, that's our season summed up right there.

I'd eat my hat if rafa went more attacking, but he won't cos we'll start trouncing teams and we'll all be proven right.

 

[Le Chacal]

WUM 😉

I wouldnt say its really "attacking" when you play n'gog alone up front...

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=39785.msg1086624#msg1086624 date=1271010021]
Its all his fault, i'd love to see Rafa be more attacking at home, take off the shakles a bit. Take out kuyt and his shite first touch that slows down our attacks, take out that mediocre cunt lucas, we don't need him at home. And let's not get started on our shite left back, that's our season summed up right there.

I'd eat my hat if rafa went more attacking, but he won't cos we'll start trouncing teams and we'll all be proven right.
[/quote]


oooooohhh!

 

[Stulikesdrums]

Strange thread. You ok there Mark?

 

[ibromurph]

Is that really Mark posting!?


Though I do agree with the above (save the part where you say it's *ALL* Lucas' fault).

 

[darkstarexodus]

Well, certain unnamed people might as well not post for the rest of the day 'cause Mark summed up about 20-odd posts you were going to make.

 

[keniget]

So wait a minute here, we're on course for 6th and Rafa's doubters are all wrong?

Brilliant.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=39785.msg1086680#msg1086680 date=1271016928]
So wait a minute here, we're on course for 6th and Rafa's doubters are all wrong?

Brilliant.
[/quote]

I wish we had happy, positive Keni back.

On a more serious note Mark, where are those fm 10 helpers? 🙂

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=39785.msg1086680#msg1086680 date=1271016928]
So wait a minute here, we're on course for 6th and Rafa's doubters are all wrong?

Brilliant.
[/quote]

Actually, this isn't meant to be pro rafa, more regards the notion that our ills are systematic/mentality based rather than just a personnel issue. People have bemoaned our lack of adventure all season and blamed the lineup, mainly. Well that today was probably as close to what people have been calling for. No lucas (two dm's) at home, the axeing of kuyt who apparently hampers our attacking swiftness, and no Insua, who offers fuckall.

Some could argue 442 would have been more productive, we tried it in the game and ultimately we were still scratching the surface and well lacking.

I'm far from Rafas biggest fan these days, and yes we also missed Torres, but today showed that the problems run alot deeper than just fucking of Lucas to give us more of a creative edge. We're in a fragile state as a side and we've got a lot of players baring the brunt of it, unfairly too. Like I've said a few times this week in other threads, our issues are a question of morale and confidence more than anything.

 

[keniget]

I'm just pissed off, so ignore me. Today was fucking frustrating.

I had a little rant during the game about subs and afterwards - I felt we left too late - but ultimately had to concede that it probably wouldn't have made much difference. The players looked nervous and defeated and without Torres, we're toothless up front.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=39785.msg1086715#msg1086715 date=1271020625]
I'm just pissed off, so ignore me. Today was fucking frustrating.

I had a little rant during the game about subs and afterwards - I felt we left too late - but ultimately had to concede that it probably wouldn't have made much difference. The players looked nervous and defeated and without Torres, we're toothless up front.
[/quote]

Yeah that's about the size of it Keni. I thought the crowd's reception for Pacheco, while heart warming for the lad, spoke volumes about our desperation.

 

[darkstarexodus]

I would have prefered Kuyt over N'Gog or either winger.

 

[darkstarexodus]

Oh, and of course Lucas gets dropped after a very good performance...

 

[Dreambeliever]

I would think if we hadn't played Lucas all season we'd be in a much better spot than we are right now.

 

[Delinquent]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=39785.msg1086715#msg1086715 date=1271020625]
I'm just pissed off, so ignore me. Today was fucking frustrating.

I had a little rant during the game about subs and afterwards - I felt we left too late - but ultimately had to concede that it probably wouldn't have made much difference. The players looked nervous and defeated and without Torres, we're toothless up front.
[/quote]

Once in a while, it would be nice to see Rafa sacrifice a defender for an additional attacker when we're desperate for a goal, but I suppose that's wishful thinking.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39785.msg1086730#msg1086730 date=1271023954]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39785.msg1086715#msg1086715 date=1271020625]
I'm just pissed off, so ignore me. Today was fucking frustrating.

I had a little rant during the game about subs and afterwards - I felt we left too late - but ultimately had to concede that it probably wouldn't have made much difference. The players looked nervous and defeated and without Torres, we're toothless up front.
[/quote]

Once in a while, it would be nice to see Rafa sacrifice a defender for an additional attacker when we're desperate for a goal, but I suppose that's wishful thinking.
[/quote]


rafa used to do stuff like that. ahhh...good times...good times...

 

[SaintGeorge67]

he did?

 

[Halmeister]

He took Finnan off in Istanbul, but that was for Hamann...?

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Yes (albeit through injury), and the likes of Andy Gray were moaning it wasn't for Cisse

 

[Vlads Quiff]

there is a flaw in this Mark. It's no use dropping anyone for a more attacking team, when the only cunt who can score goals for us is off injured again .
We are completely fucked without him.

Regards

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39785.msg1086740#msg1086740 date=1271026851]
there is a flaw in this Mark. It's no use dropping anyone for a more attacking team, when the only cunt who can score goals for us is off injured again .
We are completely fucked without him.

Regards
[/quote]

This.