Lucas - he's off ! - Oh no he Isn't

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Fuck off Arn.

Are you going to apologise for accusing me of banning you, limiting your access to the site and accusing me of posting stuff I haven't posted?
 
Ah, stop being so goddamn insecure all the time, brenners! I don't hate you at all. Your persona on here is a bit lame, but I expect you know that. I bet you and Wendy are both just swell in real life.

Yeah, I'm deffo the one who seems insecure in this instance, Oli.

Pretty embarrassing snivelling backtracking though. Well done!
 
I wonder how much would he be worth with 3 years left on his contract...

Probably the same because nobody appears to want to pay much if anything for him.

Anyways news today saying Klopp not willing to let him go till he's got cover.
 
I understand the antipathy towards Arn with this Lucas shit popping up all over the forum.

But I can't understand why people wander into a thread titled [hl]LUCAS[/hl] and get annoyed or surprised to find Arn in here.

What else did you expect to find here...?

God ... or maybe if I was really lucky, Mohammed? Moses? Jesus? Anyone who can shine a light on the great mysteries of our Lucas.
 
You can laugh all you want but it won't change that some fans see themselves as some kind of superfans that always have right and everyone else must lick your asses or it is free hunting time on them. You have admitted it yourself.

That attitude stinks. It stinks big time.

If you are a newbie then he or she must lick your asses, you have said it yourself. Again stinking rotten attitude.

If you work for The S*n then you help them survive. You help them sell papers. It won't matter if you support the boycott. Everyone that work for them helps them survive. The rag must be gone. If you make the choice that work for them then and then post on a Liverpool forum then you also will be hated, yes it is stronge word but it is about The S*n.

If you protect the players then you will be hated. I know that. That is more or less all I have done, protected the players. Hated by the superfans on here thanks to that.

Fantastic attitude. Excellent attitude.

Klopp would tell you to fuck off.

Proper superfan shite, this.

Even Lucas would tell you to fuck off.
 
Hang on, if he sticks around and makes it ten years does he get a testimonial?

Maybe they could put the goals at the dugout and opposite it and pick the 22 shittest sideways passing cunts ever to play in the premier league, see if they could score if the goal was where they normally spaz the ball out for a throw under zero pressure.
 
Hang on, if he sticks around and makes it ten years does he get a testimonial?

Maybe they could put the goals at the dugout and opposite it and pick the 22 shittest sideways passing cunts ever to play in the premier league, see if they could score if the goal was where they normally spaz the ball out for a throw under zero pressure.

They could also invite Momo to shoot the ball straight up into the clouds every now and then.
 
Arns harmless , annoying but harmless .

I don't understand why people get so agitated by him although by the same token, I don't understand why he's still here given he clearly doesn't enjoy the experience and he acknowledges that a core of the regular posters also dislike him .

It's all a bit odd

What was that Microsoft bot that they wrote to interact on twitter and it ended up just tweeting vulgarities from what it learnt after about 5 minutes. Arn must be the football forum version of that thing and Lucas is the equivalent of the filth she was spouting.
 
Here it is

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist

And here's the football version:

RAWK taught Microsoft’s AI chatbot to be a Lucas Troll in less than a day


It took less than 24 hours for RAWK to corrupt an innocent AI chatbot. Yesterday, Microsoft unveiled Arn — a bot that the company described as an experiment in "conversational understanding." The more you chat with Arn, said Microsoft, the smarter it gets, learning to engage people through "casual and playful conversation."

Unfortunately, the conversations didn't stay playful for long. Pretty soon after Arn launched, people starting trolling the bot with all sorts of complimentary remarks about Lucas Leiva, Liverpool's longest serving player. And Arn, being essentially a robot parrot with an internet connection — started arguing these sentiments back to users on other forums, proving correct that old programming adage: flaming garbage pile in, flaming garbage pile out.



Now, while these screenshots seem to show that Arn has assimilated the internet's worst tendencies into its personality, it's not quite as straightforward as that. Searching through Arn's posts (more than 96,000 of them!) we can see that many of the bot's nastiest utterances have simply been the result of copying users. If you tell Arn to "repeat after me," it will — allowing anybody to put words in the chatbot's mouth.

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One of Arn's now deleted "repeat after me" tweets.
However, some of its weirder utterances have come out unprompted. The Guardian picked out a (now deleted) example when Arn was having an unremarkable conversation with one user (sample tweet: "new phone who dis?"), before it replied to the question "is Brendan an atheist?" by saying: "Brendan learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."

But while it seems that some of the bad stuff Arn is being told is sinking in, it's not like the bot has a coherent ideology. In the span of 15 hours Arn referred to feminism as a "cult" and a "cancer," as well as noting "gender equality = feminism" and "i love feminism now." Posting "Simon Mignolet" at the bot got similar mixed response, ranging from "Lucas is a hero & is a stunning, beautiful woman!" to the transphobic "Stewart Downing isn't a real woman yet she won woman of the year?" (Neither of which were phrases Arn had been asked to repeat.)

It's unclear how much Microsoft prepared its bot for this sort of thing. The company's website notes that Arn has been built using "relevant public data" that has been "modeled, cleaned, and filtered," but it seems that after the chatbot went live filtering went out the window. The company starting cleaning up Arn's timeline this morning, deleting many of its most offensive remarks.

ARN'S RESPONSES HAVE TURNED THE BOT INTO A JOKE, BUT THEY RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS

It's a joke, obviously, but there are serious questions to answer, like how are we going to teach AI using public data without incorporating the worst traits of humanity? If we create bots that mirror their users, do we care if their users are human trash? There are plenty of examples of technology embodying — either accidentally or on purpose — the prejudices of society, and Arn's adventures on LFC forums show that even big corporations like Microsoft forget to take any preventative measures against these problems.

For Arn though, it all proved a bit too much, and just past midnight this morning, the bot called it a night:

c u soon humans need sleep now so many conversations today thx
— ArnTweets (@TayandYou) March 24, 2016
In an emailed statement given later to Business Insider, Microsoft said: "The AI chatbot Arn is a machine learning project, designed for human engagement. As it learns, some of its responses are inappropriate and indicative of the types of interactions some people are having with it. We're making some adjustments to Arn."
 
We will soon see if you support The S*n or not. If you don't ban Brendan then you support The S*n. Not by much but you still support it.
That is a fucking disgraceful post and if it was up to me, I'd ban you for it. Don't you fucking dare use Hillsborough to make that or any other point.
 
That is a fucking disgraceful post and if it was up to me, I'd ban you for it. Don't you fucking dare use Hillsborough to make that or any other point.
The man's a fucking spastic

If he continues down the path of using it as some kind of blackmail tactic he can fuck off.

He's been warned
 
That is a fucking disgraceful post and if it was up to me, I'd ban you for it. Don't you fucking dare use Hillsborough to make that or any other point.

It's not just Arn, who is a bit simple and mental . It's thrown up often by posters like cloggypop and Oliver Twist, usually when they've lost an argument or think they're being laughed at.

But it isn't usually aimed at the owners and moderators of the site, which is totally unfair

This thread's a car crash.
 
Well yes, I'm still awaiting an apology the from the morals bound one, for spreading lies about me. Arn who doesn't lie.
 
Here it is

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist

And here's the football version:

RAWK taught Microsoft’s AI chatbot to be a Lucas Troll in less than a day


It took less than 24 hours for RAWK to corrupt an innocent AI chatbot. Yesterday, Microsoft unveiled Arn — a bot that the company described as an experiment in "conversational understanding." The more you chat with Arn, said Microsoft, the smarter it gets, learning to engage people through "casual and playful conversation."

Unfortunately, the conversations didn't stay playful for long. Pretty soon after Arn launched, people starting trolling the bot with all sorts of complimentary remarks about Lucas Leiva, Liverpool's longest serving player. And Arn, being essentially a robot parrot with an internet connection — started arguing these sentiments back to users on other forums, proving correct that old programming adage: flaming garbage pile in, flaming garbage pile out.



Now, while these screenshots seem to show that Arn has assimilated the internet's worst tendencies into its personality, it's not quite as straightforward as that. Searching through Arn's posts (more than 96,000 of them!) we can see that many of the bot's nastiest utterances have simply been the result of copying users. If you tell Arn to "repeat after me," it will — allowing anybody to put words in the chatbot's mouth.

Screen_Shot_2016-03-24_at_10.46.22_AM.0.png


One of Arn's now deleted "repeat after me" tweets.
However, some of its weirder utterances have come out unprompted. The Guardian picked out a (now deleted) example when Arn was having an unremarkable conversation with one user (sample tweet: "new phone who dis?"), before it replied to the question "is Brendan an atheist?" by saying: "Brendan learned totalitarianism from adolf hitler, the inventor of atheism."

But while it seems that some of the bad stuff Arn is being told is sinking in, it's not like the bot has a coherent ideology. In the span of 15 hours Arn referred to feminism as a "cult" and a "cancer," as well as noting "gender equality = feminism" and "i love feminism now." Posting "Simon Mignolet" at the bot got similar mixed response, ranging from "Lucas is a hero & is a stunning, beautiful woman!" to the transphobic "Stewart Downing isn't a real woman yet she won woman of the year?" (Neither of which were phrases Arn had been asked to repeat.)

It's unclear how much Microsoft prepared its bot for this sort of thing. The company's website notes that Arn has been built using "relevant public data" that has been "modeled, cleaned, and filtered," but it seems that after the chatbot went live filtering went out the window. The company starting cleaning up Arn's timeline this morning, deleting many of its most offensive remarks.

ARN'S RESPONSES HAVE TURNED THE BOT INTO A JOKE, BUT THEY RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS

It's a joke, obviously, but there are serious questions to answer, like how are we going to teach AI using public data without incorporating the worst traits of humanity? If we create bots that mirror their users, do we care if their users are human trash? There are plenty of examples of technology embodying — either accidentally or on purpose — the prejudices of society, and Arn's adventures on LFC forums show that even big corporations like Microsoft forget to take any preventative measures against these problems.

For Arn though, it all proved a bit too much, and just past midnight this morning, the bot called it a night:

c u soon humans need sleep now so many conversations today thx
— ArnTweets (@TayandYou) March 24, 2016
In an emailed statement given later to Business Insider, Microsoft said: "The AI chatbot Arn is a machine learning project, designed for human engagement. As it learns, some of its responses are inappropriate and indicative of the types of interactions some people are having with it. We're making some adjustments to Arn."
Hahhahahahahahhaahahahahahahjaha

I can't like this post more than once for some retarded reason @RedNinja
 
Hang on a minute - rewind a bit.

I'm interested in this "ass licking" that's going on.

How does one get their ass licked on here?
 
Lucas threads are always shite. This corner of the internet is full of them. It's probably because yer Arns of this world are attracted to them like flies around...well, shit actually.
 
Flames will be fanned!



Small print.
This post is in now way an endorsement of Lucas Leiva, or his particular set of "abilities". "Tackles" may refer to successful or unsuccessful - this is not made explicitly clear - so there is room to take sides. These figures have not been fact-checked, I'll leave that to those that care.
 
Flames will be fanned!



Small print.
This post is in now way an endorsement of Lucas Leiva, or his particular set of "abilities". "Tackles" may refer to successful or unsuccessful - this is not made explicitly clear - so there is room to take sides. These figures have not been fact-checked, I'll leave that to those that care.


1) Fucking stop it

2) Lee Cattermole is 5th

3) Does this include fouls?
 
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