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Adam Lallana, destined to forever be one of those players. You know, forever dissected, argued over, debated and discussed. Destined for greatness one minute, discarded the next.

He's not a "Lucas", because his ability and value is clearly much higher, but he's in that category of player when fans are never quite sure about his quality, and the argument can swing on a great performance one week, and a poor one the next, with both sets of extremes being quite able to say "I told you so! HE'S SHIT" or "I told you so! HE'S ACE!" on multiple occasions.

And we've had lots of these players at Liverpool; Garcia, Sissoko, Bellamy, Baros, Murphy, and on and on and on.

I'm not in either extreme camp, because anybody who is, is wrong. He's alright. He's a good, decent, talented Premiership player. I never really wanted us to buy him, and was utterly appalled at the price Southampton extracted from us, an utterly preposterous £25m, but once he joined, well....y'know....fine.

What is he? A two-footed, skilful, lightweight attacking midfielder with no pace at all, who doesn't score much. He will probably get 5-6 goals in the league. Not exactly a game-changer, or reliable finisher. He works hard, and covers a lot of ground (and seems to be able to maintain that work-rate better than he did when he first joined), but there's all too often a total lack of end product.

He has a knack of finding space when he drifts between midfield and attack, and has a nice touch. He has a tendency to overplay, or perform tricks when it doesn't matter. He is getting much better at winning back possession and forcing the opposition to cough up the ball.

But is he a very good player? Approaching great? Is he fuck. Like all too many of his team-mates, he isn't anywhere near that, because he can't consistently reproduce the form that gets the Pro-Lallana camp screeching "I told you so! HE'S GREAT!". Because he isn't good enough to produce that consistency.

There is no flaw in the logic, or his mentality. There isn't a "missing switch" to flick that will generate that consistency. It isn't there due to his actual, definable quality as a footballer. And never will be.

Yeah, he's better than spineless, effete, twats like the hapless Markovic, but so what? Most players are. It's whether he can prove his worth in the side when there is competition like Mane and Wijnaldum - both more effective footballers in terms of obvious end product and assists - that will be key.

He has plenty of assets to his value as a footballer, and almost as many deficiencies.
 
He's a decent squad player to have but not one that should be starting regularly. For the position he plays he should be scoring and assisting a lot more. Problem for him is that I can't see him getting ahead of coutinho, firmino and mane. He will have to up his game a lot to become a regular now.

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It's between him and firmino for the last spot because origi mane cou and wij are definite starters.....i'm favouring adam at the moment.

against arsenal i'd definitely go with lallana.
 
I don't think Origi is a definite starter - i kind of think he should be but I still think Klopp loves Firmino in that striker role.
 
He'll get games because of his work rate but if he doesn't get goals or assists sharpish he'll soon be an impact sub
 
I like him a lot but he is frustrating. It's like he disintegrates exponentially whenever the ball come near him. At first he's amazing. His movement to find the ball is brilliant. His control is sublime. His vision to pick out another player then is good (ish). His application of that pass is ok. His assist rate is moderate and then his finishing is poor. He works hard though and that's why Klopp likes him I think.
 
The bit in bold is shite. He works his arse off, and defends from the front better than anyone we've got.

The bit in bold is very selectively chosen so you can refute a point that I haven't made.

He does work hard, and that's part of what makes him so inoffensive. But his defensive contribution is nowhere near enough to compensate for his lack of attacking threat.
 
Well, that and being English Premium. It attracts the usual profile of poster, stubbornly standing by their desire to see him fail, while championing crap like Markovic.

Are you taking about me or are you just baiting posters? If it's the former then your taking nonsense as I don't care for Markovic in the slightest, and if it's the later then stop trying to drag the thread down with your personal vendettas.
 
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Are you taking about me or are you just baiting posters? If it's the former then your taking nonsense as I don't care for Markovic in the slightest, and if it's the later then stop trying to drag the thread down with your personal vendettas.

Hang on, have you read Modo's posts earlier? Don't give me none of that shit, and no, it wasn't aimed at you.
 
Can't give him a start over Coutinho, Firmino, Sane at the moment surely? They actually do something. Although he's a bit of a grafter, he's got to start doing something this season else he's going to find himself out of the team for long periods. There's an argument to be had to play Wijnaldum further forward in one of those positions too.
 
Hang on, have you read Modo's posts earlier? Don't give me none of that shit, and no, it wasn't aimed at you.

Modo hadn't posted in this thread. So you made a snide post in this thread seemingly aimed at all the people that don't rate Lallana purely to get a rise out of Modo.
 
He's a game changer and a total baller. All of you know nothing.
I can speak for myself when I say regarding football I know fuck all. I do however take exception to your sweeping statement. There are many on here who know loads and I tend to listen to them. If you wanted to know if energy has mass or the nuances of the higgs boson field then I know about that. Also I'm pretty fluent in three languages and can cook a boss lobster thermidor. I can also write (a bit) and I know a good cover drive when I see it and the difference between a leg and wrist spinner - Other than that... yep. I know nothing 😉
 
Not clinical enough, not creative enough, not quick enough, not strong enough. Maybe 7/8 out of 10 for all the attributes on a good day. He's a good player but we need better.
 
I seem to recall saying last season I'd play him ahead of Coutinho...and more often than not I'd stand by that.
 
He's not been dubbed Lollana in the match threads for no reason. Gets himself into great positions, but often delays or makes the wrong pass, and in a game of fine margins our chances of winning are drastically reduced with him on the side.
 
I can speak for myself when I say regarding football I know fuck all. I do however take exception to your sweeping statement. There are many on here who know loads and I tend to listen to them. If you wanted to know if energy has mass or the nuances of the higgs boson field then I know about that. Also I'm pretty fluent in three languages and can cook a boss lobster thermidor. I can also write (a bit) and I know a good cover drive when I see it and the difference between a leg and wrist spinner - Other than that... yep. I know nothing 😉

Could you elaborate about the lobster thermidor?
 
Loads have praised his running but in truth that was not what we bought him for. It so happen that when he started applying himself to his hardcore running some people found more time for him.

But we didn't set out to buy a marathon runner for £25million. We bought him for his creativity and goal scoring and in that regards he has failed to deliver.

Firmino, Mane and Winajldum, one of them would not have happened if Lallana was good enough and we would have that£25million extra in funds to buy a good leftback or strengthen another area.
 
Loads have praised his running but in truth that was not what we bought him for. It so happen that when he started applying himself to his hardcore running some people found more time for him.

But we didn't set out to buy a marathon runner for £25million. We bought him for his creativity and goal scoring and in that regards he has failed to deliver.

Firmino, Mane and Winajldum, one of them would not have happened if Lallana was good enough and we would have that£25million extra in funds to buy a good leftback or strengthen another area.

How do you know we haven't signed a left-back due to funds? Not sure you can blame Lallana for that, especially given we bought him two seasons ago
 
Modo hadn't posted in this thread. So you made a snide post in this thread seemingly aimed at all the people that don't rate Lallana purely to get a rise out of Modo.

Seems it worked, eh. Bit rich going on about "snide" posts, when Modo wrote the book.
 
I personally think we are waiting on the Sale of Benteskey before we pursue our first choice left back

We loan him out, we will loan a Left Back from some club, or buy a cheapo option..
 
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