Joe Gomez

[Frogfish]

Surely deserves his own thread !

I was banging his drum and really wanted him to start the season ahead of Moreno and so I've been delighted with the way he's performed. Give BR a lot of credit for taking the gamble. A massive find for 3.5m, and surely kudos to O'Driscoll (who worked with him for England U19s) for the transfer ?

 

[doctor_mac]

When we signed him I assumed this would be a bit of a punt that most probably would end up like another Danny Wilson style signing. He has been outstanding and should be pressing for a place at CB within a few seasons.

 

[Rosco]

Why would you move him to Cb when he looks perfect at fullback?

 

[doctor_mac]

Why would you move him to Cb when he looks perfect at fullback?

Because he's going to be a great CB.

 

[superchimp]

It's great that he CAN play as a fulback.

He's going to be a top CB though, and that is where he should end up.

 

[Rosco]

Because he's going to be a great CB.

Based on.... ?

 

[Rosco]

Based on.... ?

The reason I ask is that it's not uncommon for someone to come up as a centre back and be better at full back at the top level.

People said the same about Kelly, and Micah Richards. Neither developed into a good centre back.

Gomez is perfect at full back. You'd be wasting that pace by moving him inside

 

[doctor_mac]

Based on.... ?

Based on the fact it is his preferred position. Having someone with his qualities: pace, physique and (from what he has shown so far) game intelligence, could be a fantastic asset at CB. He has drawn comparisons throughout his development with Rio Ferdinand and it will be interesting to see if they turn out to be justified. Extremely promising opening to his LFC career.

 

[Fabio]

The reason I ask is that it's not uncommon for someone to come up as a centre back and be better at full back at the top level.

People said the same about Kelly, and Micah Richards. Neither developed into a good centre back.

Gomez is perfect at full back. You'd be wasting that pace by moving him inside

If Clyne could help him develop his fane as well, he could be an outstanding fullback

 

[Frogfish]

Gomez won five tackles, made five interceptions and also completed four clearances at The Emirates.He had 59 touches (second only behind James Milner), one of which was a key pass.

 

[doctor_mac]

The reason I ask is that it's not uncommon for someone to come up as a centre back and be better at full back at the top level.

People said the same about Kelly, and Micah Richards. Neither developed into a good centre back.

Gomez is perfect at full back. You'd be wasting that pace by moving him inside

All true, other than his pace would be wasted at CB. Having a pacey CB is a real boon. And although it didn't work out for Kelly and Richards (though isn't he playing at CB for Villa now?) doesn't mean Gomez won't progress into a fine CB.

 

[Mystic]

I actually agree with Ross here, he looks great at full back, leave him there. Maybe in 5 years time we can look into bringing him into the middle, but there's just something that makes me uncomfortable about moving an 18 year old to centre back. Maybe it'll be like Carragher, he'll learn his game at full back for a few years before being ready for a central position, but for the medium term, i'd leave him exactly where he is.

 

[doctor_mac]

I actually agree with Ross here, he looks great at full back, leave him there. Maybe in 5 years time we can look into bringing him into the middle, but there's just something that makes me uncomfortable about moving an 18 year old to centre back. Maybe it'll be like Carragher, he'll learn his game at full back for a few years before being ready for a central position, but for the medium term, i'd leave him exactly where he is.

...I did say in a few years.

 

[Mystic]

...I did say in a few years.

...and I wasn't disagreeing with what you were saying 🙂

 

[scousemouse]

I actually agree with Ross here, he looks great at full back, leave him there. Maybe in 5 years time we can look into bringing him into the middle, but there's just something that makes me uncomfortable about moving an 18 year old to centre back. Maybe it'll be like Carragher, he'll learn his game at full back for a few years before being ready for a central position, but for the medium term, i'd leave him exactly where he is.

let me fix that for you " Maybe in 5 years time we can look into bringing around 40-50 million from manchester city or chelsea for him"

 

[nealmac]

What Ross said.

We've been trying to find a decent LB since Riise left. Why would we even contemplate the fact he might be a better CB?

 

[juniormember]

What Ross said.

We've been trying to find a decent LB since Riise left. Why would we even contemplate the fact he might be a better CB?

Because our centre backs are shite.

 

[nealmac]

Because our centre backs are shite.

So are our other choice of left backs.

To be fair Flannagan was doing ok at left back before his injury, but I don't think he was anything spectacular. 3 games into the season, Gomez has shown himself to be a natural. The only fault I can find with him is that he's right footed, but that's not necessarily a problem.

 

[gkmacca]

Because he's going to be a great CB.

Absolutely. I wouldn't even wait very long. A couple of years, tops. He's made for CB and the sooner he starts there the greater he'll end up being.

 

[scousemouse]

Absolutely. I wouldn't even wait very long. A couple of years, tops. He's made for CB and the sooner he starts there the greater he'll end up being.

and the more we will receive for him as JT's long term replacement or Rio mk2. 😛

(im feeling a bit cuntish today and im just waiting for the next want-away stars head to pop-out like the first cold inch of a turtles head against my undies)

 

[LeTallecWiz]

only today eh? 🙂

 

[Dreambeliever]

He won't be hear in two years but I'll enjoy watching him make it look easy until the money is thrown at him by City.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Joe gives me that slight edgy feeling that comes from knowing you've got a precious gem in your hands, but you're afraid someone's gonna eventually take if off you (the real madrids, mancs, etc), or break it (think Flanagan) or wake up to find out one day he's no longer precious (e.g. big loss of form, etc).

We need to cotton wool the lad, tie him up for a lifetime contract or put a billion pounds price tag on him or something.

 

[LEMONed]

He'll be sold in 2 years time as long as BR still in charge.

 

[leftpeg]

i had thought the time would come when Rodgers would take him out of the team for a spell 'to give the boy a rest'. Presumably however the inevitable suspensions will take care of that. What a prospect he is though.

 

[Judge Jules]

Absolutely. I wouldn't even wait very long. A couple of years, tops. He's made for CB and the sooner he starts there the greater he'll end up being.

I wonder TBH, macca. Carra was poor at CB for quite a while. It wasn't till after he'd first had a lengthy spell at fullback that he ultimately took to the CB position. I wouldn't be making any decisions about Gomez in principle now, but would be guided totally by how things actually pan out on the pitch as time goes on.

 

[gkmacca]

I wonder TBH, macca. Carra was poor at CB for quite a while. It wasn't till after he'd first had a lengthy spell at fullback that he ultimately took to the CB position. I wouldn't be making any decisions about Gomez in principle now, but would be guided totally by how things actually pan out on the pitch as time goes on.

Yes, it's always down to each individual, but for that reason I'd like Rodgers to watch him carefully and keep considering it rather than subscribe to the recent dogma about long apprenticeships. Shanks, for example, looked at Thompson when he was about 17 and saw he was such a good reader of the game, and so suited to CB, he never considered playing him elsewhere once he decided to bring him into the side, and as a consequence he became one of the most long-serving and experienced CBs we ever had. The same early start for Hansen at Partick, Ferdinand at West Ham and Terry at Chelski. All I'm saying is don't be dogmatic about it. Carra, as you say, took a long time to even suggest he had what it took to be a CB. Some other players look really suited to it at an early age. And if you're suited to a craft, don't take too long to start learning it. That's all. I think Gomez is such a good prospect I don't want to hold him back just because of some largely unexamined fashion.

 

[scousemouse]

Yes, it's always down to each individual, but for that reason I'd like Rodgers to watch him carefully and keep considering it rather than subscribe to the recent dogma about long apprenticeships. Shanks, for example, looked at Thompson when he was about 17 and saw he was such a good reader of the game, and so suited to CB, he never considered playing him elsewhere once he decided to bring him into the side, and as a consequence he became one of the most long-serving and experienced CBs we ever had. The same early start for Hansen at Partick, Ferdinand at West Ham and Terry at Chelski. All I'm saying is don't be dogmatic about it. Carra, as you say, took a long time to even suggest he had what it took to be a CB. Some other players look really suited to it at an early age. And if you're suited to a craft, don't take too long to start learning it. That's all. I think Gomez is such a good prospect I don't want to hold him back just because of some largely unexamined fashion.

carra evolved into center back. he was initially a midfielder and cb was not on the horizon in his earlier years, so its like comparing apples and pears.

 

[gkmacca]

carra evolved into center back. he was initially a midfielder and cb was not on the horizon in his earlier years, so its like comparing apples and pears.

Yes, quite. Of course, it does no defender any harm to get experience playing anywhere across the back four, but some players just look destined for certain positions and, when they do, I say go with it.

 

[Rosco]

And Gomez looks destined to be a great right back