YOu could argue that every Chelsea player who has a CL medal is somewhat fortuitous. Still can't believe they won that.
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YOu could argue that every Chelsea player who has a CL medal is somewhat fortuitous. Still can't believe they won that.
Offer him a reduced wage, with pay-as-you-play add-ons, and if he takes it, I think he'll throw himself into the coaching side of it, and if he plays regularly with the reserves, he could take them into league cup games with much more of a sense of order and direction than when a whole bunch are just bunged on without any experienced players among them. I don't think any sane person would advocate him being anything but an emergency back-up next season, but that's basically what he's been this season, and we've had an emergency.
No it didn't. It was much more open than that, as I'm sure Red would confirm. And as for coaching, what's wrong with assessing what potential you have? Do you always have to go out and get tried and tested people at every level without even considering checking potential?
Ah yeah, Milner. Sturridge didn't play much for Chelsea when they won the CL though
A pitiful selection of winners in our team
A pitiful selection of winners in our team
Yeah @davud graham - I mean't it more broadly. I just think given his experience and the fact he knows where he is in the pecking order he's a solid 4th choice defender. The fact he can add all of that to the squad and the youth team is a massive bonus.
Sakho has won trophies in France while at PSG
yep
Fair enough though it was easy to assume you meant playing rather than coaching as you didn't mention it. He does seem very popular with the rest of the players but i have yet to see that translate into the rest of the players playing any better with him in the team.
I don't see why you wouldn't want someone who has proved themselves good at a certain job. I'm sure that if Klopp or the academy director sees Kolo as a good choice for a coach then they may give him a try but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't. It all depends on whether they want a popular novice or a new guy with experience. Time will tell.
I was surprised when Toure was given an extra years contract last summer as he'd been pretty useless last season but credit to him he's papered over the cracks when needed this season. I'd still prefer to see Caulker play ahead of him though.
He shouldn't be at the club next season, there's no place for sentimentality.
Ignoring the fact that I don't think he's much more than average and quite panicky these days. If we start the season with Lovren, Sakho, Matip and Skrtel, where does Gomez, Ilori or any other youngster get a game?
He's well on the downward slope and a blocker to those coming through behind him.
Ignoring the fact that I don't think he's much more than average and quite panicky these days. If we start the season with Lovren, Sakho, Matip and Skrtel, where does Gomez, Ilori or any other youngster get a game?
He's well on the downward slope and a blocker to those coming through behind him.
He does have a big arse, yeah
I'd be surprised if we did. Personally, I'd gave Lovren another season and ship Sakho out but I wouldn't be surprised with any selling decision made in regards to our current centre backs.
Very true, I'm not a fan of Sakho/Lovren/Skrtel and I very much doubt Klopp wants to keep them all. But I just don't see the point of Kolo anymore, providing we have 3 better options ahead of him and a couple of promising young lads behind.
I think Skrtel is the one most likely to go, what's his contract situation?
He is getting paid £60k a week at 34, why would he be upset?
Liverpool Players Salary List 2014-2015
- Brendon Rodgers Annual Salary – £4 Millions
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}PLAYER{/td}
{td}AGE{/td}
{td}Weekly Salary{/td}
{td}CONTRTACT REMAINING{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Simon Mignolet{/td}
{td}26{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Brad Jones{/td}
{td}32{/td}
{td} {/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Mamadou Sakho{/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£75,000 {/td}
{td}3 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Daniel Agger{/td}
{td}29{/td}
{td}£65,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Martin Skrtel{/td}
{td}29{/td}
{td}£90,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Dejan Lovren{/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£70,000{/td}
{td}5 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Kolo Touré{/td}
{td}33{/td}
{td}£60,000 {/td}
{td}1 Year (2015){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Tiago Ilori{/td}
{td}21{/td}
{td} {/td}
{td}4 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Sebastián Coates{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£50,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}José Enrique{/td}
{td}28{/td}
{td}£65,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Glen Johnson{/td}
{td}29{/td}
{td}£90,000{/td}
{td}1 Year (2015){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Javier Manquillo{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£25,000{/td}
{td}1 Year (2015){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Martin Kelly{/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£40,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jon Flanagan{/td}
{td}21{/td}
{td}£40,000{/td}
{td}1 Year (2015){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lucas{/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£65,000 {/td}
{td}3 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Emre Can{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£60,000 {/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jordan Henderson{/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£55,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Joe Allen {/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£45,000 {/td}
{td}3 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Steven Gerrard{/td}
{td}34{/td}
{td}£140,000 {/td}
{td}1 Year (2015){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Adam Lallana {/td}
{td}26{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}5 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Coutinho{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£60,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Suso{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td} {/td}
{td}1 Year (2015){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Oussama Assaidi{/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£50,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Raheem Sterling{/td}
{td}19{/td}
{td}£40,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lazar Markovic{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£35,000 {/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Daniel Sturridge{/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£80,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Fabio Borini {/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£60,000 {/td}
{td}3 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Rickie Lambert{/td}
{td}32{/td}
{td}£45,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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http://www.tsmplug.com/football/liverpool-players-salary-list-2014/
No offence like, and I think the Toure number might actually be somewhere close to the truth, but that looks like a shite source.
I was suspicious of it when they couldn't spell "Brendan" correctly..... and then Flanagan 40k per week is patently completely bollocks. I think its less of a reliable data source and more "here are some things I read in a variety of papers, with wildly varying degrees of accuracy, collated in one table for your perusal"
No Offence taken. £3.4M he makes per year, just not worth the money for a bench warmer.
More upto dat elist most likely from the same people
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{caption}Liverpool Player Wages & Contracts 2014-15{/caption}
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}PLAYER{/td}
{td}AGE{/td}
{td}WEEKLY WAGE{/td}
{td}CONTRACT LEFT{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Simon Mignolet (new deal){/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}5 Years (2021){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Ádám Bogdán (New Signing){/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£15,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Danny Ward{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£5,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Mamadou Sakho (new deal){/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£75,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Steven Caulker (loaned-in){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£30,000{/td}
{td}6 month loan deal{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Dejan Lovren{/td}
{td}26{/td}
{td}£65,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Martin Skrtel{/td}
{td}31{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Tiago Ilori{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£20,000 {/td}
{td}3 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Joe Gomez (New Signing){/td}
{td}18{/td}
{td}£10,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Kolo Touré{/td}
{td}34{/td}
{td}£65,000 {/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Alberto Moreno{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£40,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}José Enrique{/td}
{td}30{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Nathaniel Clyne (New Signing){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£70,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jon Flanagan{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£25,000{/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Emre Can{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£55,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jordan Henderson (new deal){/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£100,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lucas Laiva{/td}
{td}29{/td}
{td}£80,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Joe Allen{/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£45,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}James Milner (new signing){/td}
{td}30{/td}
{td}£120,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Roberto Firmino (New Signing){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£100,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Coutinho (new deal){/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Adam Lallana {/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£65,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jordan Ibe{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£10,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}João Carlos Teixeira{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£5,000{/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lazar Markovic (loaned-out){/td}
{td}21{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Daniel Sturridge{/td}
{td}26{/td}
{td}£120,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Christian Benteke (New Signing){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£140,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Divock Origi{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£15,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Danny Ings (New Signing){/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]
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I think Lovren will stay.
Skittles & Sakho will be off, if not this summer, then the next one.
No Offence taken.
More upto dat elist most likely from the same people
If its true that Benteke is the highest paid player in the squad, and gets over 140k per week, I cant help but despise him and his piss weak performances even more
I don't know why people are writing Skrtel off, he's the best centre back we've got. Lovren has earned himself a minor reprieve, but ideally him and Sakho will go.
Skrtel's alright, but slows down our game. He won't be the ideal CB in a high pressing system.
No Offence taken. £3.4M he makes per year, just not worth the money for a bench warmer.
More upto dat elist most likely from the same people
[xtable=skin1]
{caption}Liverpool Player Wages & Contracts 2014-15{/caption}
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}PLAYER{/td}
{td}AGE{/td}
{td}WEEKLY WAGE{/td}
{td}CONTRACT LEFT{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Simon Mignolet (new deal){/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}5 Years (2021){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Ádám Bogdán (New Signing){/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£15,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Danny Ward{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£5,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Mamadou Sakho (new deal){/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£75,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Steven Caulker (loaned-in){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£30,000{/td}
{td}6 month loan deal{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Dejan Lovren{/td}
{td}26{/td}
{td}£65,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Martin Skrtel{/td}
{td}31{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Tiago Ilori{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£20,000 {/td}
{td}3 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Joe Gomez (New Signing){/td}
{td}18{/td}
{td}£10,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Kolo Touré{/td}
{td}34{/td}
{td}£65,000 {/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Alberto Moreno{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£40,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}José Enrique{/td}
{td}30{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Nathaniel Clyne (New Signing){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£70,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jon Flanagan{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£25,000{/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Emre Can{/td}
{td}22{/td}
{td}£55,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jordan Henderson (new deal){/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£100,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lucas Laiva{/td}
{td}29{/td}
{td}£80,000 {/td}
{td}2 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Joe Allen{/td}
{td}25{/td}
{td}£45,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2017){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}James Milner (new signing){/td}
{td}30{/td}
{td}£120,000{/td}
{td}2 Years (2018){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Roberto Firmino (New Signing){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£100,000 {/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Coutinho (new deal){/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£75,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Adam Lallana {/td}
{td}27{/td}
{td}£65,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jordan Ibe{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£10,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}João Carlos Teixeira{/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£5,000{/td}
{td}Last Year (2016){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lazar Markovic (loaned-out){/td}
{td}21{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Daniel Sturridge{/td}
{td}26{/td}
{td}£120,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Christian Benteke (New Signing){/td}
{td}24{/td}
{td}£140,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Divock Origi{/td}
{td}20{/td}
{td}£15,000{/td}
{td}3 Years (2019){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Danny Ings (New Signing){/td}
{td}23{/td}
{td}£60,000{/td}
{td}4 Years (2020){/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]
That was an exceptional amount to offer Toure. Correct me if I'm wrong but he initially signed on a two year deal did he? Did he activate an extra year based on appearances or something? How did Benteke's agent negotiate 140k? That's surely more than double his Villa wage? Danny Ings' agent did fairly well too, but I suppose with him being "free" he could negotiate a decent deal. Enrique's agent stitched us rightly up too. What's the chances we see Coutinho offered an improved deal in the summer?
..................before he signs on for less money with Barcelona.
High chances Aidan, almost nailed on.
He may not be ideal but as mark pointed out, he is better than the rest.
End.of.Thread
Does he? He's the most aggressive centre back we've got who steps forward and attacks the ball. He's fairly decent at bringing the ball out from the back too, more so than Sakho and Lovren. Sakho might pick out a decent pass once he gets his posture correct, but neither he or Lovren look to bring the ball out from the back that much. Skrtel just needs a decent partner at the back, he was great alongside Sami.
Fair point.
Indeed our CB pairing is nowhere near its best. I'm happy to be proven wrong with regards to Skrtel remaining first choice next 2-3 seasons.
He might not last the course, but people were happy to write off both Sami and Carragher about 3 years too early, he's hit 30 so it'll be interesting to see how rapid his decline is, but hopefully he'll start to use his experience to lead from the back. He's worth a few goals too, which is more than we can say for Toure, Sakho and Lovren.
Toure...
Any sensible organisation would cut ties unless he takes a huge paycut.
We've paid him nearly 10m in wages for about a seasons worth of games in three years. He's been a very pricey back up whose performances have been a mixed bag. You can't even be guaranteed he'd be available to step in when needed because of his own struggles with muscle problems.
Any sensible organisation would cut ties unless he takes a huge paycut.
We've paid him nearly 10m in wages for about a seasons worth of games in three years. He's been a very pricey back up whose performances have been a mixed bag. You can't even be guaranteed he'd be available to step in when needed because of his own struggles with muscle problems.
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