Is nobody going to say it?

[Insignificance]

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[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48657.msg1482957#msg1482957 date=1329304371]
[quote author=i_rushie link=topic=48657.msg1482947#msg1482947 date=1329302917]
Of course we should complain. If Suarez weren't a diver and a cheat. But he really comes across as one, so it's you could construe those comments as mere observation or a carefully orchestrated vendetta.

Then beyond his involvement as a witness and then in bringing it to the attention of the referee, what was the true extent of his "personal involvement in the whole Evra business"? By the same token, did Kenny's "personal involvement" in talking to the ref indicate some conspiracy to besmirch Evra's reputation? What about Kuyt's or Commolli's?

Above all, if he was really so worried about Suarez's ability to tear his defence a new one, why wait till post-game to brand him a disgrace? I can't for the life of me think why he wouldn't have taken the initiative to psyche Suarez out before the game, and throw him off, as opposed to post-game? What was the point? Make sure Suarez is a quivering bundle of nerves for the next Liverpool-Scum encounter next season?

Oh, he tries to come across as a wily ol fox alright, but I've never thought he had the subtlety or patience for mind games or for such a protracted return on an insult. He's simply had the good fortune of coming up against the likes of Keegan and Wenger, who aren't great at keeping their emotions under wraps.
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if you remmeber back to the November game, Fergie was at him already then. Branding him "diving all over the place". How does he get waway with that from the FA and the PFA I dont know, but if you see that game the only guy diving was Downing. I cant see one particular event in the whole game saying Luis dived. Still fergie had a go at him, and noone else?

And another point is that whenever Rooney elbows someone or Rafael throws himself tot eh ground or whoever of his vegetables does something he shouldnt, we don't see a clan of oppsoit managers having a go do we? They mostly stick to their own business and let the autorities handle it as they should, which in most cases is to let the villain go.
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The point is, Suarez had earned his reputation for diving long before the first league match -v- the scum. It was all commentators pointed out in the first couple of months of the season. It was all "What a brilliant player, that Suarez, BUT..." Even this forum debated his tendency to go to ground. You can choose to regard it as a carefully orchestrated vendetta by ol whiskeynose, or you could construe it as a commonly shared observation. If you think it's the former, then perhaps you'd be so kind as to answer the next question I bolded for you?
[/quote]

In a perfect world even people like Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson would be rational. Why he acts like he does is hard to answer. But the results is there to see for anyone. The guy ain't stupid, but he is a psycopat. There was no forum for him to speak about Suarez until after the game. It would be stupid to show his obsession before he had what he felt was good ammunition. The same with refs. Why on earth did he not slaughter Atkinson before the game, if he tought he was fat an unfit?

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

And you're a candidate for the funny farm if you think Kenny, or the vast majority of other managers, would have dragged their player straight to the referee's room to make an official complaint. They'd have questioned their player, found out about what he'd already said, told the other manager and left it there.

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482989#msg1482989 date=1329308147]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

And you're a candidate for the funny farm if you think Kenny, or the vast majority of other managers, would have dragged their player straight to the referee's room to make an official complaint. They'd have questioned their player, found out about what he'd already said, told the other manager and left it there.
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OMG

You're actually mental. You can't acknowledge the simplest thing at all. I fucking despair, I really do.

You probably think Fergie is telling me to post this right now, don't you ?

 

[i_rushie]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48657.msg1482984#msg1482984 date=1329307647]
In a perfect world even people like Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson would be rational. Why he acts like he does is hard to answer. But the results is there to see for anyone. The guy ain't stupid, but he is a psycopat. There was no forum for him to speak about Suarez until after the game. It would be stupid to show his obsession before he had what he felt was good ammunition. The same with refs. Why on earth did he not slaughter Atkinson before the game, if he tought he was fat an unfit?
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You really think he felt he had no good ammunition? Not with the numerous allegations of diving already floating around? Not with the FA charge of racial abuse proven? Not with an entire nation's press conflating that that act with racism? I could go on and on. But you truly believe he would have thought the better stick to beat Suarez with was the lack of adherence to a handshake ritual that is only remarkable for being entirely bereft of meaning once the players start kicking six shades of shit out of one another?

 

[Richey]

We don't know for sure who it was who decided to make an official complaint, and whilst I do agree that it no doubt does please Ferguson that things have not gone well for us, when it comes down to it, if Suarez had said nothing to Evra this couldn't have happened, and if he had not admitted to saying what he said, he probably would not have been convicted would he?

Even if Ferguson has not helped us here (and why would he?) Suarez has most certainly not helped himself!

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482993#msg1482993 date=1329308337]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482989#msg1482989 date=1329308147]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

And you're a candidate for the funny farm if you think Kenny, or the vast majority of other managers, would have dragged their player straight to the referee's room to make an official complaint. They'd have questioned their player, found out about what he'd already said, told the other manager and left it there.
[/quote]

OMG

You're actually mental. You can't acknowledge the simplest thing at all. I fucking despair, I really do.

You probably think Fergie is telling me to post this right now, don't you ?
[/quote]

Are you throwing the OMG card? Mature..

 

[Judge Jules]

Point is, Richey, (a) in Spanish Suarez did say nothing to Evra and (b) Evra knew it. Hence what he told the TV cameras. For sure Suarez should have denied everything afterwards. Does anybody really think he'd wouldn't have if he thought all this would be made of it, and what does that tell you about his intent in the first place?

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482999#msg1482999 date=1329308738]
Point is, Richey, (a) in Spanish Suarez did say nothing to Evra and (b) Evra knew it. Hence what he told the TV cameras. For sure Suarez should have denied everything afterwards. Does anybody really think he'd wouldn't have if he thought all this would be made of it, and what does that tell you about his intent in the first place?
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It might even be that he was caught surprisingly by Fergies reaction? That he was trapped in a situation when Fergie dragged him to the ref it would look stupid to admit something else? We will never know what went on in this motherfuckers head, but to blindly trust him on his word that he has been racially abused is pure nonsence.

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482999#msg1482999 date=1329308738]
Point is, Richey, (a) in Spanish Suarez did say nothing to Evra and (b) Evra knew it. Hence what he told the TV cameras. For sure Suarez should have denied everything afterwards. Does anybody really think he'd wouldn't have if he thought all this would be made of it, and what does that tell you about his intent in the first place?
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Well I admit that I have not heard the French TV interview, but I do wonder why he even mentioned the incident in that interview if he was not bothered at all.

I don't believe that Suarez is a racist as it happens, he probably didn't see much wrong in what he said, and yes it might well have been the case also that Evra was well aware that there was no racist intent behind it.

What I do believe Suarez to be is a complete fucking idiot. His conversations with Evra during the game were clearly not friendly were they? Wind an opponent up if you want but at least watch how you do it and what you say. There are plenty of other things he could have called him!!

As soon as he unnecessarily referred to Evra's colour then he was always open to further action, and as soon as he admitted saying it (in whatever context) then he was always going to be found guilty.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=48657.msg1483011#msg1483011 date=1329309674]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482999#msg1482999 date=1329308738]
Point is, Richey, (a) in Spanish Suarez did say nothing to Evra and (b) Evra knew it. Hence what he told the TV cameras. For sure Suarez should have denied everything afterwards. Does anybody really think he'd wouldn't have if he thought all this would be made of it, and what does that tell you about his intent in the first place?
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Well I admit that I have not heard the French TV interview, but I do wonder why he even mentioned the incident in that interview if he was not bothered at all.

I don't believe that Suarez is a racist as it happens, he probably didn't see much wrong in what he said, and yes it might well have been the case also that Evra was well aware that there was no racist intent behind it.

What I do believe Suarez to be is a complete fucking idiot. His conversations with Evra during the game were clearly not friendly were they? Wind an opponent up if you want but at least watch how you do it and what you say. There are plenty of other things he could have called him!!
As soon as he unnecessarily referred to Evra's colour then he was always open to further action, and as soon as he admitted saying it (in whatever context) then he was always going to be found guilty.
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You did read in the report that Evra said he adressed Luis with the words "Conchita tu hermana" and I assume you have seen the game and saw that it was Evra who pursued Suarez around along the goalline? You do also know that Evra was the agressive one, and that Evra got booked for his behaviour and that Evra needed extra talking to by the ref. All this before Evra said he had been called Negro?

Still it is Suarez and not Evra who is the fucking idiot who clearly was not friendly? That winded up the other one? That should have watched why he said?

 

[Spionkop69]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

"You're a complete fucking retard"...

Is this acceptable posting now?

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48657.msg1483012#msg1483012 date=1329310060]

You did read in the report that Evra said he adressed Luis with the words "Conchita tu hermana" and I assume you have seen the game and saw that it was Evra who pursued Suarez around along the goalline? You do also know that Evra was the agressive one, and that Evra got booked for his behaviour and that Evra needed extra talking to by the ref. All this before Evra said he had been called Negro?

Still it is Suarez and not Evra who is the fucking idiot who clearly was not friendly? That winded up the other one? That should have watched why he said?
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Well for the record I did NOT say that it was Suarez rather than Evra who was not friendly. I said the conversations were not friendly. I am well aware that Evra was also aggressive. I can't imagine that anyone at all could possibly imagine that Suarez went out onto the field and just hit Evra with a barrage of unprovoked abuse, just as it would be impossible to believe that Evra did the same to Suarez. Players wind each other up all the time. It probably happens every single week in every single game.

The fact that Evra did also insult Suarez only reinforces the point I was trying to make. If you know you are in that situation then you have to watch what you say even more surely? If Suarez had called Evra pretty much anything else insulting then I doubt much would have happened. As soon as he referred to his colour he was always open to things going further.

In terms of who the fucking idiot was and who should have watched what they said, then yes, that would be Suarez, given that he was the one who has since been banned for 8 games and allowed the World's media to brand him a racist.

And for the record I did NOT say that it was Suarez and not Evra who was not friendly. I said they were

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48657.msg1483015#msg1483015 date=1329311114]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

"You're a complete fucking retard"...

Is this acceptable posting now?
[/quote]

Whats said in the forum stays in the forum 😉

I guess some have the back to carry it, especially when it is said in an angry light tone!!

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=48657.msg1483018#msg1483018 date=1329311684]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48657.msg1483012#msg1483012 date=1329310060]

You did read in the report that Evra said he adressed Luis with the words "Conchita tu hermana" and I assume you have seen the game and saw that it was Evra who pursued Suarez around along the goalline? You do also know that Evra was the agressive one, and that Evra got booked for his behaviour and that Evra needed extra talking to by the ref. All this before Evra said he had been called Negro?

Still it is Suarez and not Evra who is the fucking idiot who clearly was not friendly? That winded up the other one? That should have watched why he said?
[/quote]

Well for the record I did NOT say that it was Suarez rather than Evra who was not friendly. I said the conversations were not friendly. I am well aware that Evra was also aggressive. I can't imagine that anyone at all could possibly imagine that Suarez went out onto the field and just hit Evra with a barrage of unprovoked abuse, just as it would be impossible to believe that Evra did the same to Suarez. Players wind each other up all the time. It probably happens every single week in every single game.

The fact that Evra did also insult Suarez only reinforces the point I was trying to make. If you know you are in that situation then you have to watch what you say even more surely? If Suarez had called Evra pretty much anything else insulting then I doubt much would have happened. As soon as he referred to his colour he was always open to things going further.

In terms of who the fucking idiot was and who should have watched what they said, then yes, that would be Suarez, given that he was the one who has since been banned for 8 games and allowed the World's media to brand him a racist.

And for the record I did NOT say that it was Suarez and not Evra who was not friendly. I said they were
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So he is a fucking idiot for unfriendly conversations on the pitch? is it possible that you suddenly are calling him an idiot for somethin that happens to 95% of all footballers around the world during a professional game? Feel free to add all other sports (Well you can keep badminton and cricket out of it) were men are up against each other.

Whatever Suarez does or doesn't seem to explode in his face. Things that we all accept that others do or doesn't we don't accept from Suarez. No FA hearing regarding Terry's racial abuse. no hype regarding Ronaldo's, nani's or Wellbecks dive. No fuzz if Nasri refused to shake Gallas hand. I am glad people stand up for this fucking bullshit, and show him support.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48657.msg1483015#msg1483015 date=1329311114]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

"You're a complete fucking retard"...

Is this acceptable posting now?
[/quote]

Hahahaha Animal Farm

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48657.msg1483021#msg1483021 date=1329312206]

So he is a fucking idiot for unfriendly conversations on the pitch? is it possible that you suddenly are calling him an idiot for somethin that happens to 95% of all footballers around the world during a professional game? Feel free to add all other sports (Well you can keep badminton and cricket out of it) were men are up against each other.

Whatever Suarez does or doesn't seem to explode in his face. Things that we all accept that others do or doesn't we don't accept from Suarez. No FA hearing regarding Terry's racial abuse. no hype regarding Ronaldo's, nani's or Wellbecks dive. No fuzz if Nasri refused to shake Gallas hand. I am glad people stand up for this fucking bullshit, and show him support.
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No, you are not listening.

He is a fucking idiot because he chose to say something that could be used against him later on, and was as it turned out. He was also a fucking idiot for then admitting to it, even if he did see nothing wrong with what he said.

AS I said, hostile conversations and insults fly around in all games between players. It happens. Most of them end on the field. Others do not, and among those that do not are those that involve anything that MIGHT be considered racist.

To move onto your other point, yes everything Suarez does is more important at the moment, purely because the media have already painted him as a bad guy so are scrutinising him more than ever. I am not saying that is right, but that is what has happened. So things that other players might get away with will get reported if he does them.

In terms of your examples of other players, the only one that is really comparable here is Terry, and the reason there has been no FA charge over that is because it is currently awaiting criminal trial

 

[Jack D Rips]

[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48657.msg1483015#msg1483015 date=1329311114]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48657.msg1482985#msg1482985 date=1329307768]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48657.msg1482983#msg1482983 date=1329307604]
Without Ferguson taking the matter up, it would have been left at Evra's pitchside dismissal of it. Everything else, including Suarez' own ill-advised honesty afterwards, takes second place to that. And until *you* face up to *that*, instead of doing your determined "See No Evil" bit, you're going to continue looking faintly pitiful.
[/quote]

You're a complete fucking retard if you think that any manager on the face of the planet would do nothing when a player comes into the dressing room and says "Boss, he called me a n*gger".

Now if you want to turn that into some conspiracy by Fergie go ahead, but take a fucking minute to see how stupid you're looking before you reply.
[/quote]

"You're a complete fucking retard"...

Is this acceptable posting now?
[/quote]

Depends which side of the argument you are on it seems. Other terms such as "bellend" "moron" "cunt" may also be used

 

[Graham]

Didn't Asbo get banned for similar?

 

[SummerOnions]

Before we bought Suarez we were clamouring for players with a 'nasty' streak, the likes of which included C. Ronaldo and Adebayor.

We've got one now, and most of us don't seem to like it.

Is it because he's fucking stupid or that kind of player doesn't suit our club?

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=48657.msg1483031#msg1483031 date=1329313538]
Before we bought Suarez we were clamouring for players with a 'nasty' streak, the likes of which included C. Ronaldo and Adebayor.

We've got one now, and most of us don't seem to like it.

Is it because he's fucking stupid or that kind of player doesn't suit our club?
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A vocal minority don't seem to like it

 

[Richey]

I don't think anyone doesn't like him being nasty do they? I certainly have no problem at all with him being a bit of a cunt. What matters is that he is a good player with it.

The problem is when he leaves himself open to accusations like this one and gets himself banned. Players with nasty streaks lose their effectiveness enormously when they are sat in the stands.

I certainly don't want us to get rid of him, and I don't want him to lose his nasty side either, but I do hope that he has learned his lesson about what he can and can't get away with.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48657.msg1483035#msg1483035 date=1329313999]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=48657.msg1483031#msg1483031 date=1329313538]
Before we bought Suarez we were clamouring for players with a 'nasty' streak, the likes of which included C. Ronaldo and Adebayor.

We've got one now, and most of us don't seem to like it.

Is it because he's fucking stupid or that kind of player doesn't suit our club?
[/quote]

A vocal minority don't seem to like it
[/quote]

Well as they say: to be old and wise you have to have been young and stupid 😉

 

[i_rushie]

There's no denying that Suarez is a treat on the eyes when he plays, nasty side up or not. He's the anti-Heskey who I hated watching as he accepted all kinds of punishment from defenders half his size, and looked sorry as he picked his arse off the turf There's a certain weariness though that comes with each controversy the club becomes embroiled in, and at the moment, Suarez happens to be the one generating all the publicity.

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=Graham link=topic=48657.msg1#msg1 date=1329313245]
Didn't Asbo get banned for similar?
[/quote]

Asbo was a fair bit more aggressive, but yeah, after a few warnings.

We do ban ourselves for breaking the rules & Ross will be banned in similar fashion if he ignores warnings. He can consider this a warning.

 

[SummerOnions]

I think my issue is that i think he's incredibly stupid - like Ryan Babel with a lot more talent.

He's letting the club and the manager down because he doesn't think about what he's doing. I'm not saying i want shut of him, but he's very close in terms of what he can get away with. If he has another game like that, he'll probably be sold.

 

[Spionkop69]

[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=48657.msg1483041#msg1483041 date=1329314930]
[quote author=Graham link=topic=48657.msg1#msg1 date=1329313245]
Didn't Asbo get banned for similar?
[/quote]

Asbo was a fair bit more aggressive, but yeah, after a few warnings.

We do ban ourselves for breaking the rules & Ross will be banned in similar fashion if he ignores warnings. He can consider this a warning.
[/quote]

Ha! I am the equivalent of Mancini waving an imaginary card!

 

[Atlas]

Iv never ever seen better use of OMG. Lots of lolage

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=48657.msg1483043#msg1483043 date=1329315027]
I think my issue is that i think he's incredibly stupid - like Ryan Babel with a lot more talent.

He's letting the club and the manager down because he doesn't think about what he's doing. I'm not saying i want shut of him, but he's very close in terms of what he can get away with. If he has another game like that, he'll probably be sold.
[/quote]

We are a football club. We should behave in certain manners, I do agree about that. But we are not in a smartness contest. A palyer like Kuyt or Downing seem smarter, well at least Kuyt does. But they will never be the different between winning and loosing. Remember that twice last season Suarez was voted MoM in games where another Pool player had scored a hattrick. That doesnt come along too often.

And when it comes to stupid behaviour. The same people backing gerrard over the fighting would probably attack Suarez for the same. Same people who defended Gerrard over the red card against Man U last January would have blamed Suarez as loosing the game for us had he done the same.

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48657.msg1#msg1 date=1329315355]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=48657.msg1483041#msg1483041 date=1329314930]
[quote author=Graham link=topic=48657.msg1#msg1 date=1329313245]
Didn't Asbo get banned for similar?
[/quote]

Asbo was a fair bit more aggressive, but yeah, after a few warnings.

We do ban ourselves for breaking the rules & Ross will be banned in similar fashion if he ignores warnings. He can consider this a warning.
[/quote]

Ha! I am the equivalent of Mancini waving an imaginary card!
[/quote]

Yeah, you're right, we all think you're a cunt for doing it. 😉