Henderson v Gerrard

[carlv]

I don't agree with all the slagging off of Henderson, about how the top 4 wouldn't want him he doesn't do enough etc. Did the say the same about Gerrard how many knew he would become the player he did.
He came into the team at 19 and his appearances against goals are as follows.
Age 19 29/1
Age 20 33/7
Age 21 28/3 this was the age Henderson was when he was signed but unlike Gerrard he came with a big price tag he made 37 appearances and scored 2 goals, moving forward stats are as follows Gerrard v Henderson.
Age 22 34/5 v 30/5
Age 23 34/4 v 35/4
Age 24 30/7 v 37/6
Age 25 32/10 Henderson is 25 this year.

To me they appear similar who's to say Henderson won't push on give the man a chance

 

[Skullflower]

You're an idiot

 

[Best Believe It]

To me they appear similar who's to say Henderson won't push on give the man a chance

Will do

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Here's hoping your optimism is rewarded but I don't see it happening.

Oh, and ignore the cuntsore - he's an embarrassment.

 

[Rosco]

They're quite different players in many respects.

Gerrard was an explosive, physical talent in his mid twenties and had that unstoppable look to him when he got going. But he never really had the appetite for doing the less glamorous, grafting side to game - which is why when Xabi was out we always looked so disjointed at the time.

Henderson isn't that type of player, I don't ever see him having a season like Gerrard's 23 goal season. But he does graft, he's always available for a pass, he's a more well rounded player than Gerrard. He's usually a solid 7 out of 10 player whereas Gerrard could be a five or a nine. You never really knew.

So in summary, I doubt Henderson will become Gerrard. But he could potentially be a very good player for a long time

 

[gkmacca]

I don't agree with all the slagging off of Henderson, about how the top 4 wouldn't want him he doesn't do enough etc. Did the say the same about Gerrard how many knew he would become the player he did.
He came into the team at 19 and his appearances against goals are as follows.
Age 19 29/1
Age 20 33/7
Age 21 28/3 this was the age Henderson was when he was signed but unlike Gerrard he came with a big price tag he made 37 appearances and scored 2 goals, moving forward stats are as follows Gerrard v Henderson.
Age 22 34/5 v 30/5
Age 23 34/4 v 35/4
Age 24 30/7 v 37/6
Age 25 32/10 Henderson is 25 this year.

To me they appear similar who's to say Henderson won't push on give the man a chance

Don't take Skully seriously, mate, he's like that with everyone!

 

[Mystic]

Here's hoping your optimism is rewarded but I don't see it happening.

Oh, and ignore the cuntsore - he's an embarrassment.

Part of the fabric mate, didn't you hear?

 

[hmmmmm1]

OP is a troll.

 

[Skullflower]

OP is a troll.

53.2%

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

You just know that it was only a matter of time such a thread would surface.

What's next ? Benteke vs Suarez ?

 

[Skullflower]

You just know that it was only a matter of time such a thread would surface.

What's next ? Benteke vs Suarez ?

Give him time. He's the new suarez

 

[dantes]

But Gerrard's goals tended to be stunning, and they allowed us to win matches against our rivals. Henderson's goals are unremarkable.

 

[Silver Sean]

The idea that Gerrard didn't do the less glamorous things is complete bollocks. I suggest anyone who thinks otherwise rewatches the 2005 CL final. He played a frigging right back at one point tackling like a demon.

 

[dantes]

You just know that it was only a matter of time such a thread would surface.

What's next ? Benteke vs Suarez ?

Oh. I would advise you to give the Benteke thread a miss.

 

[Rosco]

The idea that Gerrard didn't do the less glamorous things is complete bollocks. I suggest anyone who thinks otherwise rewatches the 2005 CL final. He played a frigging right back at one point tackling like a demon.

Well done for finding the exception.

He was lazy as fuck when it came to making himself available for the ball from teammates, for years.

 

[Mors]

This thread is obv a windup, not very well disguised though. Could have gone down the route of two comparable players for full effect.

 

[keniget]

Well done for finding the exception.

He was lazy as fuck when it came to making himself available for the ball from teammates, for years.

Is this general opinion?

I'm reading this and wondering if I've been watching a different player over the last however many years it's been.

 

[peekay]

I am not sure what is the point of this thread. Steven Gerrard is an icon of a footballer who was central to some of our happiest footballing memories in the last 15 years.

Henderson is a very good and capable footballer who will represent our club and the city well and have an above average career. He is intelligent, technically good, and will work very hard to ensure that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts - all admirable qualities. He is definitely worth his wages and I am sure will make critical contributions to our club. But he is no Steven Gerrard. There is nothing wrong in Henderson not being Steven Gerrard.

But trying to put both of them on the same pedestal and trying to put forth an argument that they are both equal is laughable and it in some way denigrates Henderson.

What is the next thread then "Dirk Kuyt vs Ian Rush", "Lallana vs Dalglish".

 

[gkmacca]

It's not a 'versus' post at all. All the poor sod has done is remind people of Gerrard's stats at a similar stage and suggested Henderson is likely to keep progressing. It's hardly world war fecking three.

 

[peekay]

It's not a 'versus' post at all. All the poor sod has done is remind people of Gerrard's stats at a similar stage and suggested Henderson is likely to keep progressing. It's hardly world war fecking three.

The title "Henderson v Gerrard".

I would also like to state that I have not slagged off Henderson and I think the captaincy will give him the confidence needed to step up to the next level as a player.

 

[gkmacca]

There's nothing to talk about apart from wretched Rashid-like 'allow me to make a case for (someone we won't sign and therefore it's a waste of time debating)' or 'is Rodgers a saint or a sinner' or 'is Benteke having a medical'. In that climate there's a real 'did you just spill my pint' mood in here that's grown out of sheer boredom. Take a chill pill.

 

[Silver Sean]

It's so hard on here when you don't have the facility to put any admin staff on ignore. Bloody staff.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

It's so hard on here when you don't have the facility to put any admin staff on ignore. Bloody staff.

I didn't even say Cesc this time!!!

 

[HC]

I'd hardly say Gerrard shirked responsibilities when off the ball.

He's played the majority of the second half of his career in forward thinking players but in the first half of Gerrards Liverpool career I'd suggest he was the very definition of box to box.

I don't think anyone can compete with the ability he had to track back win a ball break forward and turn the game on its head.

Henderson will never have that, he's a different kind of player who could go on to have a fantastic career at this club.

He's certainly seems a lot more restrained than Gerrard in just about every respect. I think he will have a massive season.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Yeah but Stevie never got to be on a cover of a top seller console game.

Hendo ftw.

 

[RedStar]

Henderson will never match the goal tally of Gerrard post 25 because he wont be playing in the same position. Gerrards pace finishing and temprement made him ideally suited to playing behind the striker. Those are qualities Henderson doesnt really have. Hes still a good player but hes more like a young Milner than a young Gerrard.

 

[Ryan]

Well done for finding the exception.

He was lazy as fuck when it came to making himself available for the ball from teammates, for years.

You're venturing into actual football talk here Ross, this is where you usually come unstuck.

 

[Dreambeliever]

But Gerrard's goals tended to be stunning, and they allowed us to win matches against our rivals. Henderson's goals are unremarkable.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Well done for finding the exception.

He was lazy as fuck when it came to making himself available for the ball from teammates, for years.

I wouldn't say he was lazy as f*ck, more he wasn't disciplined for the role he played. I think it was why he was pushed out onto the right for one of his most successful seasons.

 

[dantes]

Fuck me. I will now have to drink to forget this ever happened.