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What has happened to this kid?

One of the highest rated talents in Argentina, and then in Italy with Roma and he's just disappeared. One or two good performances in the Europa League but nothing of note in the Premier Legue and there's 10 games to go.

He'll most likely be back in Italy next year ... Does this go down as one of the biggest flops in Premier League history? At least Torres and Carroll scored goals that won games ... Lamela has done NOTHING and he cost 30 million.

(Spurs are in a good position in the league but it's scary to think of how much better they'd been if they'd spent that 55 million they wasted on Soldado and Lamela better)
 
Still "injured" isnt he?
Fantastic talent that just hasnt settled or played even close to his potential.

Were loads of stories that he didnt want to leave Roma in the first place, he's been performing like that aswell.
Will surley be back in Italy next season and be labeled one of the biggest flops ever.

Soldado has been woeful aswell. Never a 27 mill player. Maybe 12 mill.....
 
Probably just overhyped and overrated.

I've never seen him play but when you're supposedly the best player in a team and they finish sixth with you, but jump to second after you leave, then you're probably not all that valuable to a team
 
Not unusual for a talented player to take a season to settle in England. Judge him next season if he stays and is fit
 
What has happened to this kid?

One of the highest rated talents in Argentina, and then in Italy with Roma and he's just disappeared. One or two good performances in the Europa League but nothing of note in the Premier Legue and there's 10 games to go.

He'll most likely be back in Italy next year ... Does this go down as one of the biggest flops in Premier League history? At least Torres and Carroll scored goals that won games ... Lamela has done NOTHING and he cost 30 million.

(Spurs are in a good position in the league but it's scary to think of how much better they'd been if they'd spent that 55 million they wasted on Soldado and Lamela better)

They're lucky to be in the position they are. They've been gash.
 
The reason they're 2nd is Rudi Garcia and the best defensive record in Europe. Some great signings in Maicon, Benatia, De Sanctis, Strootman and Gervinho have transformed the team.

Lamela was ridiculously good last season and is a fantastic player. Needs to move back to Italy again.
 
Probably just overhyped and overrated.

I've never seen him play but when you're supposedly the best player in a team and they finish sixth with you, but jump to second after you leave, then you're probably not all that valuable to a team


He left River after they got relegated too.

I had read some good things about him at River and thought he might be worth a punt. If he has been injured this season and it's not other issues as all the rumours suggest then it's a little early to be writing him off - the kid is talented.

In terms of the return they got this season for their 30M, it's been fairly disastrous. Though at least in the case of Lamela they can still hope that when he is fit (in whatever way) he'll come good, what hope is there for Soldado?
 
As I said better suited for the Serie A imho

Based on your long and detailed assessment of his abilities ?

Or based on one good season in Italy, one bad season in England must mean he can only play in Italy
 
Based on your long and detailed assessment of his abilities ?

Or based on one good season in Italy, one bad season in England must mean he can only play in Italy

Why dont you talk more about the fact that you've never seen him play. Which is always a great start when having an opinion.

Dont know why I bother, but its pretty obvious he doesnt enjoy the physical style of the PL.
The lower tempo in the Serie A seem to suit him much better.
He still might succeed in England, but if its true he didnt want to leave in the first place its better to go back to where he enjoyed his best football and get his career back on track. He's looked miserable in pretty much every game I've seen. Still only 22 and got a long career ahead of him.

Do you get it now? Do you understand it? There's a good troll.
 
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Probably just overhyped and overrated.

I've never seen him play but when you're supposedly the best player in a team and they finish sixth with you, but jump to second after you leave, then you're probably not all that valuable to a team


Probably giving myself away as a nerd here but there was an interesting article in the New Scientist about this recently. It's long and waffly but I pasted the start of it below.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...-best-to-make-things-better.html#.UyJPDfl_uSo

42nd St paradox: Cull the best to make things better

Bench your best player to win the series. Close roads to get everyone home faster. Can we harness the power of Braess's paradox?

IT IS the second game of the 1999 US National Basketball Association play-offs – the New York Knicks vs the Indiana Pacers. The eighth-seeded Knicks are holding their own against the number 2 seeds when their best player, Patrick Ewing, tears his Achilles tendon. All seems lost with the Pacers heavily favoured for the rest of the series. Yet against all odds, the Knicks go on to win the series 4-2 and qualify for the finals.

The Knicks's success against the Pacers was so unexpected that the story behind it has since become a legend, even gaining its own name. The so-called "Ewing effect" has been evoked by pundits to explain sporting victories in which an underdog inexplicably triumphs.
The question is why. Surely science has little to say about such tales. After all, it's only to be expected that occasionally the underdogs should win, through simple luck. Or perhaps there are psychological factors that strengthen the resolve of teammates who have lost a colleague or that weaken the determination of the opposition, who expect to triumph easily.

But there may be more to it. According to the emerging science of networks, there are good reasons why some systems perform better in seemingly disadvantageous conditions. It's just a natural property of certain kinds of networks, albeit a paradoxical one. Could this explain why teams suddenly missing their best players somehow do better?

It's an intriguing idea and one that could have broad implications. Since our world is increasingly tied together with complex networks, physicists are using the same network-style approach to make all kinds of similarly counter-intuitive predictions about other systems. Their studies show that everything from road, power and wireless networks to food webs and the metabolic systems behind disease demonstrate similar properties. Theorists say that if we're careful, it may be possible to exploit these properties to reduce traffic jams, prevent power outages and even fight disease in new ways.


There's 3 pages of scientific analysis on this and they admit it's a bit speculative but I find it interesting that the phemonenon has a name. I'd probably summarise it by saying it tries to prove that if you take away your most obvious form of attack the defence doesn't know what to expect.

It could explain why Sturridge can't stop scoring whilst Suarez is on a lean spell.
 
The Ewing Theory has been around for ages - interesting that it's getting dealt with in the New Scientist
 
Why dont you talk more about the fact that you've never seen him play. Which is always a great start when having an opinion.

Dont know why I bother, but its pretty obvious he doesnt enjoy the physical style of the PL.
The lower tempo in the Serie A seem to suit him much better.
He still might succeed in England, but if its true he didnt want to leave in the first place its better to go back to where he enjoyed his best football and get his career back on track. He's looked miserable in pretty much every game I've seen. Still only 22 and got a long career ahead of him.

Do you get it now? Do you understand it? There's a good troll.

It's obvious? Is it ? On the basis of three starts, of which you've seen every minute, you've come to the conclusion he couldn't possibly play in the Premiership. But you're also convinced having watched so much of him at Roma last year that he's a fantastic player.

My position is a bit simpler - and not contradicting itself- there's not enough to say either with any degree of certainty. One good season, proves nothing. One bad season proves nothing.

The reality is though, and everyone sees it, you just regurgitate whatever the flavour of the month popular opinion is and pass it off as your opinion having watched the player, despite the fact your opinion is always limited to one word about the player- never any detail that you'd get from watching a player.

You simply cheerlead whatever player we're linked with but then you'll forget about him and not want him once some other player starts making headlines or is linked to us. Like your ridiculously over the top cheerleading of Papa, who has now been dumped in favour of Benatia who had a couple of good high profile games recently.

You're just a cliche ridden bullshit artist. And you're not even good at it
 
Thats not even worthy of a response in all honesty. But I'll do it one more time. You as usual use a few parts of some previous posts to "try" and back up your views. The only thing you prove is that you're the biggest bellend on here.
And clueless aswell.

I couldnt give a shite about what you think about my opinion, and I doubt its anyone else than you who think that aswell.
I would love an ignore mod function cause reading your posts are so boring and repetitive. Reading through threads and there's Ross with something "controversial" trying to get someone to bite. When someone does its party time.

So for the sake of someone who is on here trying to discuss footy, stop quoting my posts. Dont read them anymore if they're the "flavour of the month" or just "something of Twitter".
Your opinion about these issues are as interesting as Clarke Carlisles. I wont be responding to anyone of yours either, there is no point when you obviously have no interest in a real discussion and on top of that are clueless.

Your first post in this thread is the best example, and we'll leave it at that.
 
Can someone point me in the direction of that transfer thread please? I suspect a few people need their arses handed back to them.
 
Don't know much about Lamela, but the general consensus was that he was a top talent. It's still early to write him off, I think.

I actually think that, with the exception of Soldado, Spurs bought quite well in the summer; and their failure to integrate all of them shouldn't really be taken as vindication of the argument that its wrong to sell your best players at their peak value.

It really depends on the circumstances. I think what Spurs did with their resources was pretty good - good young talent spread across different positions.They need a manager who can bring the best out of them; I don't know if Sherwood is the guy - I really haven't watched them much this season. But Lloris, Chiriches, Vertonghen, Capoue, Paulinho, Dembele and Eriksen are actually pretty good players, and that'd make a solid core if someone wants to build around them. In Bentaleb, Rose and Townsend, they have some good young talent as well - so there's scope for someone to do with them what we've done with Henderson, Sterling and Flanagan.

They've suffered more from poor management on the pitch than from in the boardroom. The only obvious error was Soldado, whose signing had major red flags anyway.

And for all their struggles, they're still not far from 4th at all.
 
Don't know much about Lamela, but the general consensus was that he was a top talent. It's still early to write him off, I think.

I actually think that, with the exception of Soldado, Spurs bought quite well in the summer; and their failure to integrate all of them shouldn't really be taken as vindication of the argument that its wrong to sell your best players at their peak value.

It really depends on the circumstances. I think what Spurs did with their resources was pretty good - good young talent spread across different positions.They need a manager who can bring the best out of them; I don't know if Sherwood is the guy - I really haven't watched them much this season. But Lloris, Chiriches, Vertonghen, Capoue, Paulinho, Dembele and Eriksen are actually pretty good players, and that'd make a solid core if someone wants to build around them. In Bentaleb, Rose and Townsend, they have some good young talent as well - so there's scope for someone to do with them what we've done with Henderson, Sterling and Flanagan.

They've suffered more from poor management on the pitch than from in the boardroom. The only obvious error was Soldado, whose signing had major red flags anyway.

And for all their struggles, they're still not far from 4th at all.


I think Spurs just have way too many midfielders, it's crazy, especially considering how light they are up front and in defence.

Also, they've got the squad size of a CL winner but not enough first team quality to actually get them qualification!
 
Can someone point me in the direction of that transfer thread please? I suspect a few people need their arses handed back to them.
Not me! I never knew who he was in the first place. Come to think of it I've still no idea who he is.
 
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