Bye Bye Kenny???????
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Do you think he's going to go for it on Saturday? I think we're going to go 451 to deal with the threat of Fellaini, Cahill, Jelavic and Osman, Baines.
I think that's been our biggest problem. 451 is more to do with worrying about the opposition than our tactics.
In my humble opinion, Kenny has not been playing "one up front" this season. He has been playing "none up front." Suarez, Dirk and co. can't be considered Premier League standard strikers. That explains why we have faffed around in so many matches without producing many chances, or scoring from the chances that do turn up. Our only first team squad striker, Andy Carroll, has spent the season warming the bench. Even when he has had a good game, he has reverted to the bench for the next match.
Hence why I think we'll beat Everton.
Haven't a clue. think he'd be foolish not to start carroll and suarez up top but who knows.
Its a good point, and i have no doubt we'll raise our game and actually play quite well, but i think everton have better finishers than us and will take their half chances.
I want someone to show me one post (ONE POST) where a fan has said 'everything is okay'.
things are pretty dreadful currently but getting rid of the manager now when he has shown in the past he is a winner and also that he is capable of making the team play fantastic football smacks of kneejerk desparation.
so we get rid and then expect some miracle worker to come in and work on a shoestring (because that's all he'll have after kenny and his staff are paid off) and WHEN he struggles to make an impact we'll get the same impatient fans demanding he is removed meaning even less time and less money for the next manager to make an impact.
if we go down this road then I think my time as a fulltime liverpool fan will be up. if the club aren't going to take a long term view then why the fuck should I?
things are pretty dreadful currently but getting rid of the manager now when he has shown in the past he is a winner and also that he is capable of making the team play fantastic football smacks of kneejerk desparation.
so we get rid and then expect some miracle worker to come in and work on a shoestring (because that's all he'll have after kenny and his staff are paid off) and WHEN he struggles to make an impact we'll get the same impatient fans demanding he is removed meaning even less time and less money for the next manager to make an impact.
if we go down this road then I think my time as a fulltime liverpool fan will be up. if the club aren't going to take a long term view then why the fuck should I?
We've got Agger and Johnson (hopefully) back for that game, we're not gonna give them an inch.
That's about the only thing I'm happy with this season, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger and Enrique.
I can't really be arsed about the midfield. We can rotate, chop and change all we want and it will still be the same old shit.
Basically we don't have a settled side and we're almost at the end of the season. Question is, who is to blame for that?
That's about the only thing I'm happy with this season, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger and Enrique.
I can't really be arsed about the midfield. We can rotate, chop and change all we want and it will still be the same old shit.
Basically we don't have a settled side and we're almost at the end of the season. Question is, who is to blame for that?
The calculated risk of football ownership. Persist with a man who has shown he can do well but is struggling, or sack him to give someone else the opportunity. The debate probably would be had by arsenal fans over the last few year. Difference being Arsene has made them a consistent force in the PL. Kenny had a 6 month spell and (tbh) early parts of this season relied on other teams being a bit jarg to keep up with 4th.
When does a poor run turn into poor management? 6 months? 1 year? 5 years?
And you're a better supporter cos you're not jumping up and down complaining?
No, you're not. You're a gullible fuckwit. We're 8th for fuck sake, with a trophy for cunts.
And don't even think about warning me Mods. If Sunny, Vlad and Mark here can just saunter round saying what they like, then stick your fucking rules up your arse.
This is going around in circles, I don't think that Kenny supporters are saying that everything is fine, what irks me is that important factors that should question a managers abilities are being disregarded through poor excuses. Winning a cup doesn't overshadow all that has been bad this season.
I'm not saying that everything is shit this season and I don't think anyone else who wants Kenny replaced is saying that either.
I believe that the negatives from this season outweigh the positives.
I don't know what my breaking point is with regards to want a manager sacked, all I know is in all my years of supporting liverpool I've only actively wanted one liverpool mananger sacked and that is hodgeson but where he was seeming to take the club is not where I ultimately wanted the club to be. I nowhere near wanting kenny gone, not because of his past (well not entirely) but because at times I've seen us play fantastic football and totally dominated teams BUT haven't been linical enough to put those teams to the sword. I think we closer than the league table suggests and stronger than the squad suggests so I want kenny to be given time to see if this is indeed the case of his our current plight is the norm rather than a collective lack of confidence for a sustained period.
you point to the times when shankly was fucking up but was given time or fergie fucking up and was given time and you get replies that was another time. well just this season arsenal were all over the fucking place but they gave the manager time and he made minor adjustments (none of the players signed in the summer were world beaters) and arsenal then went on a sustained run.
if we have a plan, 3 year, 5 year, whatever we should stick to that plan and not rip it up because we've gone a bad run that will pretty much be forgotten about if we are sensible in the summer and get our act together. if kenny is fucked off with a new manager coming in that will make 3 manages in two years. fuck off with that fucking kneejerk panic shit
who isn't complaining? me? mark? sunny? name a poster who isn't complaining about our current plight?
I'm far from happy and I'm certainly complaining that we are currently all over the fucking place but there's complaining and wanting rid to start again.
haha, couldn't agree more.
say we get rid of kenny and the new manager loses the first few games on the trot? get rid?
or how about if we finish 7th next season with the new guy? get rid.
if anyone mentioned the 'liverpool way' if we go down this road I'd laugh in their face, we'd be no different from newcastle.
or how about if we finish 7th next season with the new guy? get rid.
if anyone mentioned the 'liverpool way' if we go down this road I'd laugh in their face, we'd be no different from newcastle.
you're the one typing bullshit with your kneejerk crap. thank fuck the board isn't as twitchy as you.
unfortunately if we continue with the 'liverpool way' we might end up in the lower half next season if this season is anything to go by. ideally we'd all love to give managers time, but something is just glaringly obvious that it isn't going to work with kenny, therefore i believe he should go at the end of the season.
the 'liverpool way' has served us in the past, so do you throw it away when things are going tits up.
makes me laugh when supporters sing 'YNWA' in one breath and then boo the team in the next. talk about ironic.
Personally, i'd way up the positives and negatives likei have with kenny. I don't like the way he freezes players out, i don't like the way he's sticking with tactics that dont work, sticking with players who don't work and i don't like his demeanour. The next guy might be amazing for me (notice, FOR ME) and i'd support him to the hilt.
As i said the other day, the liverpool way is antiquated and no longer used. It died many years ago without people noticing. I imagine during rafas continued trouble with the board.
and for the last fucking time, KENNY SHOULD GET ANOTHER YEAR. Why am i always the one who responds with serious non insulting posts and gets stick back? not off you neil but others. ITs fucking lunacy.
They're not supporters. I do not agree with booing
I'm not expecting anything from the new manager hence the reason why I don't want one.
I think a new manager will struggle with the expectation and the limited budget. I simply cannot see a big budget in the summer if kenny is removed as the yanks don't strike me as the type of owners to dip into their own pocket.
well, we're going round and round in circles a bit, ultimately we are going to see in the summer exactly what type of owners we have. the type of owner who gives the manager time and space to execute his long term plan knowing that rome wasn't built in a day or the type of owner who gets twitchy at the first sign of trouble. I'm hoping for the former.
we'll we haven't gone the liverpool way in the past 10 years, employing foreign managers rather than via the boot room and foreign ownership. as some have pointed out, i applaud your optimism and support of kenny, but i can't join you in that unfortunately. as re: fans booing, they are quite within their rights to after seeing the shit week in week out this season.
you have the right to boo but I don't see who it helps, it's certainly not helping the players.
when it comes to the 'liverpool way' it's difficult to know exactly what that encompasses. the boot room? ideals? it's not like it is written in stone but you only have to read the words of our anthem to know we shouldn't be going down the road of a manager a year. if we don't believe it (YNWA) we shouldn't sing it.
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