I agree with modo. Yes we can't shift aqua but he did alright when he did play and helped us score goals.
Downing...less so.
we can point to the 'zero assists' column, but let's be honest here, he should have a few but the finishing has been beyond dire.
Yes, that is also true, though a difficult one to prove either way.
That is kind of why I have always had my doubts slightly when people have said both Carroll and Downing are hopeless failures. They might well be of course, but equally it could also be that one has performed more poorly because of the failings of the other one.
Come on now, not one measly assist? ONE?
Is that so much to ask for?
Yesterday I saw crippled player crossing the ball better than Downing has all season.
I bet you if he was healthy and played as many games as Downing has on the left wing, he'd have at least one assist this season.
What I'm saying is that you can't solely blame our finishing, you have to look at the delivery as well.
1.It is a huge flaw but I think the players have given up on the league since the defeat to Arsenal at Anfield.Well the flaw in that argument is our current league position. And it's been that way for a few years now.
Plus the fact that I don't think Kenny will deliver in the transfer window this Summer.
Don't bring Rafa into this.Jesus Christ.
This smells a bit of Rafa.
I wouldn't call it a flaw, per se, but I see where you're coming from.Well the flaw in that argument is our current league position. And it's been that way for a few years now.
Plus the fact that I don't think Kenny will deliver in the transfer window this Summer.
He didn't help us win anything or even come close to winning anything when he was here. If we win the FA Cup then Downing will have contributed to that.
I'm not saying either were any good as signings. Both have been disappointing. But Aquilani's transfer has been a total expensive mess from start to finish. Well, actually it hasn't finished yet, as not one club in World football considers him worthy of a contract.
If Downing leaves at the end of the season and we claw some money back then he would have been a poor signing and a mistake but that would at least be the end of it. Didn't Benitez used to get praised by loads of people for moving his mistakes on quickly?
I think I have a terrible memory as well.We almost won the Europa League thanks to Aqua. You have a bad memory.
We almost won the Europa League thanks to Aqua. You have a bad memory.
The pressue on Henderson is a direct result of management. I think he's shit, but I wouldn't care if he was shit and had cost a few million quid and was titting about in the reserves. But he's shit and is in our top ten highest cost purchases, and as a result of the utterly stupid transfer fee we paid for him he's playing in nearly ever match and being useless in the majority. It's not his fault he's shit, but it gets too complicated moaning at our complex hierarchical structure. At this point they can all fuck off.
The pressue on Henderson is a direct result of management. I think he's shit, but I wouldn't care if he was shit and had cost a few million quid and was titting about in the reserves. But he's shit and is in our top ten highest cost purchases, and as a result of the utterly stupid transfer fee we paid for him he's playing in nearly ever match and being useless in the majority. It's not his fault he's shit, but it gets too complicated moaning at our complex hierarchical structure. At this point they can all fuck off.
Exactly. And when we criticise the fact, we're deemed to be up Kenny's arse. Moo and a few others only come crawling out the woodwork post defeat. Would be nice to see them post every now and then when we have a win to celebrate, without making a point of reminding us we got beat the week before.
i'm merely questioning (quite rightly I believe) is he the right man for liverpool?
I strongly WANT to believe he is ... I've read most of the stuff against him in the site, and I agree with most of it - but I still want to believe. I think he can get it right but I'd understand if he stepped down because he's unhappy with what he's done. That's where I stand at least - I guess it's called on the fence?
I think you are what is called "bi"
I strongly WANT to believe he is ... I've read most of the stuff against him in the site, and I agree with most of it - but I still want to believe. I think he can get it right but I'd understand if he stepped down because he's unhappy with what he's done. That's where I stand at least - I guess it's called on the fence?
Let's be honest. Most of us want him to be able to turn it around. However, theres been no evidence so far that he can.
We've suffered the same type of defeat a shocking amount of times.
I think we can all agree there's not a lot of trust when it comes to the transfer window.