Barrett saying we've bid 32M for Alex Teixeira...
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I don't want another short arse player.
Too many shorties in the team simply does not work in the premiership....
Too many shorties in the team simply does not work in the premiership....
Yeh that big fat lump Benteke has revolutionised our team.
Benteke is not Brazilian.
Anyway if this guy can take a good free kick (at least Aurelio good), i'm totally changing my mind about him...
Anyway if this guy can take a good free kick (at least Aurelio good), i'm totally changing my mind about him...
Nothing gets past you!
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We don't know what his "peak" is though, tbf.
I'm astounded that people are bothered either way by his age. If we buy someone young, then people worry they won't get enough playing time, they're not experienced enough, etc. If we buy a mid 20's player then people worry they're too close to peak age, we're over paying, etc. We've been stung on both of those, granted, but as said.. players that do well with us these days are usually around for 4 seasons tops. Unless you're a steady Eddie type or a homegrown player, then there are fuck allegiances with the club and the same from club to player, there's a distinct lack of sentiment.
People have whinged about Lallana and the likes of Allen and others all season, we try to go for a sexy Brazilian and it's still wrong. We've just signed a massively promising midfielder who will join in the Summer. Young, reasonably priced, big potential. Are people happy? Course not.
People have whinged about Lallana and the likes of Allen and others all season, we try to go for a sexy Brazilian and it's still wrong. We've just signed a massively promising midfielder who will join in the Summer. Young, reasonably priced, big potential. Are people happy? Course not.
Typical Mark, bigging up every new signing.
I'm not arsed mate, I knew fuck all about him last week, I just don't get why people get so worked up about it. There's always a negative slant to be had.
I'm with you there
Worth noting that he takes penalties too.
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They amuse me usually.
He'll fit right in with Gotze!
Its actually more typical of Mark to miss the point these days.
Wondering aloud about whether 30m on an uncapped Brazilian in a shit league is a good idea is a perfectly valid and interesting discussion.
There was a letter in the Echo in the late 80s quoting something similar about Aldridge as an argument why we shouldn't have signed him ....
He suffered a massive decline in his late 20's and just wasn't the same player any more. The fact that he hit those numbers is more testament to how talented he was in the first place.
Yep. Kaka is another obvious one. He didn't frequent night clubs like Ronaldinho, but still declined rapidly.
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Oh, I can't quite agree with that. Willian looked poor in his first few months at Chelsea, some people here were even talking about a "bullet dodged." Same with Fernandinho – he was ridiculed by some in the first 6 months at City, then everyone saw how good a player he is.
Mkhitaryan took the longest among Shakhtar exports to settle – only this season under coach Tuchel he is starting to really justify his price tag (and now Dortmund have a struggle on their hands to keep him). Initially he was getting in good positions, but his scoring touch mysteriously deserted him and his regular crucial misses contributed to Dortmund's Champions League exit and other poor results in Klopp's last seasons in charge.
Douglas Costa has been the only one who hit the ground running. Oh, also Luis Adriano has struggled to make an impact for AC Milan and almost left for China this January.
So, to reiterate:
Willian, €35M – success, after a 6 months adaptation period
Fernandinho, €40M – success, after a 6 months adaptation period
Mkhitaryan, €27M – mixed record
Douglas Costa, €30M (I told you Akhmetov likes round numbers!) – instant hit
Luiz Adriano, €8M – failure so far
Alex Teixeira – ?
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It's especially interesting seeing as between every member of SCM combined, we've maybe seen him play for 90min.
Yeah, I agree with you on that. My point was more that the Brazilian players that have been playing for Shakthar (bar Luiz Adriano) have adapted to other leagues. I'm guessing it was a pretty testing time for those players when they first arrived in the Ukraine and that they are proven to be mentally strong.
Even with a 6 month adaption period I'm not concerned about him settling and making it in the PL.
If I remember correctly the people calling Willian a bullet dodged were the same that didnt want us to sign him.
Shakhtar Donetsk’s Alex Teixeira wants to join Liverpool and is confident a deal can be reached between the clubs, a source close to negotiations has revealed to Goal.
The Reds have tabled a bid in the region of £24 million for the attacker, who is able to play anywhere across the frontline as well as operate in an advanced midfield role.
Discussions are ongoing following Liverpool chief executive Ian Ayre’s return to Merseyside after face-to-face talks with the Ukraine Premier Liga pacesetters at their warm-weather training base in Florida.
The player’s camp are positive that an agreement can be struck, with the 26-year-old keen to move in order to improve his chances of earning a first call-up for Brazil.
However, Liverpool are aware negotiations will not be straightforward given Shakhtar’s valuation of Teixeira and their previous dealings with Ukraine clubs which led to the failed pursuit of both Henrikh Mkhitaryan in 2013 and Yevhen Konoplyanka in January 2014.
Earlier this month, Shakhtar boss Mircea Lucescu said: “Alex is now worth more than €40m [just over £30m]. I think at the end of the season, were he to continue with this level of performance – his value will be €50m [£38m].”
He also revealed he would fully support the Brazilian’s decision to move should a suitable offer be received. Liverpool are eager to do business in this window rather than having to fork out a higher fee and face more competition for his signature in the summer. They are thus willing to up their initial proposal, while Chelsea, who are also interested in Teixeira, have not yet submitted a formal bid.
At Melwood on Friday, Jurgen Klopp did not want to discuss the first potential big transfer of his Liverpool reign. However, he did admit that the club would move for “a player who could help us maybe as soon as possible, as quick as possible.”
Given Teixeira has netted 22 league goals with three assists in just 15 Premier Liga games, while the Reds have struggled in front of the posts, he would certainly fit that description.
Klopp has previously stated that he is “not the biggest friend” of the winter market, but with Philippe Coutinho, Daniel Sturridge, Divock Origi and Danny Ings - four of the club’s top five scorers - all injured, Teixeira would be a welcome addition.
“Our situation has changed. I always said if our situation changes, we have to change our opinion,” the 48-year-old said.
“The January window is not the best time if you’re under pressure. Everybody wants prices that make you think ‘are they crazy?’ or something like this.
“If you take a new player now, you have two days to the next game, four games to the next so that’s how it is and my opinion hasn’t changed on that. But, of course, we have to watch the market to think about what makes sense for us now plus for the summer.
“If we find a solution who fits for both transfer windows, a player who could help us maybe as soon as possible as quick as possible, then of course we will try it.
“If there is a good player who can help us and we see a longer time to work together - not just for three games and then all the others come back [from injury], then we will think about it and try to do something which we would usually want to do in the summer.
“If the situation is okay with all: player, price - I think we shouldn’t ignore this - then we think about it.”
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The Reds have tabled a bid in the region of £24 million for the attacker, who is able to play anywhere across the frontline as well as operate in an advanced midfield role.
Discussions are ongoing following Liverpool chief executive Ian Ayre’s return to Merseyside after face-to-face talks with the Ukraine Premier Liga pacesetters at their warm-weather training base in Florida.
The player’s camp are positive that an agreement can be struck, with the 26-year-old keen to move in order to improve his chances of earning a first call-up for Brazil.
However, Liverpool are aware negotiations will not be straightforward given Shakhtar’s valuation of Teixeira and their previous dealings with Ukraine clubs which led to the failed pursuit of both Henrikh Mkhitaryan in 2013 and Yevhen Konoplyanka in January 2014.
Earlier this month, Shakhtar boss Mircea Lucescu said: “Alex is now worth more than €40m [just over £30m]. I think at the end of the season, were he to continue with this level of performance – his value will be €50m [£38m].”
He also revealed he would fully support the Brazilian’s decision to move should a suitable offer be received. Liverpool are eager to do business in this window rather than having to fork out a higher fee and face more competition for his signature in the summer. They are thus willing to up their initial proposal, while Chelsea, who are also interested in Teixeira, have not yet submitted a formal bid.
At Melwood on Friday, Jurgen Klopp did not want to discuss the first potential big transfer of his Liverpool reign. However, he did admit that the club would move for “a player who could help us maybe as soon as possible, as quick as possible.”
Given Teixeira has netted 22 league goals with three assists in just 15 Premier Liga games, while the Reds have struggled in front of the posts, he would certainly fit that description.
Klopp has previously stated that he is “not the biggest friend” of the winter market, but with Philippe Coutinho, Daniel Sturridge, Divock Origi and Danny Ings - four of the club’s top five scorers - all injured, Teixeira would be a welcome addition.
“Our situation has changed. I always said if our situation changes, we have to change our opinion,” the 48-year-old said.
“The January window is not the best time if you’re under pressure. Everybody wants prices that make you think ‘are they crazy?’ or something like this.
“If you take a new player now, you have two days to the next game, four games to the next so that’s how it is and my opinion hasn’t changed on that. But, of course, we have to watch the market to think about what makes sense for us now plus for the summer.
“If we find a solution who fits for both transfer windows, a player who could help us maybe as soon as possible as quick as possible, then of course we will try it.
“If there is a good player who can help us and we see a longer time to work together - not just for three games and then all the others come back [from injury], then we will think about it and try to do something which we would usually want to do in the summer.
“If the situation is okay with all: player, price - I think we shouldn’t ignore this - then we think about it.”
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What do you mean? Are you saying €40m would do it, which is about £30m? I think we should give them £20m plus Lucas and Alberto
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