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AVB seems to be in some trouble with the team after his comments after the City game didnt go down to well in the dressing room. He's also had a go at the medics and the WHL crowd. He's digging his own fancy grave at the moment. I hope it continues for loooong time.
He's a bit thick isn't he.
All he had to do after the city game was to say that everyone, including himself, should feel ashamed of himself and that he apologises to the supporters, and he'll do his utmost together with the players to turn things around.
But with him it's always someone else's fault. Every time he opens his mouth he's a PR disaster.
Guardian are saying he's on the verge of getting the boot. Could soon be curtains. And whatever other cliches you want to throw in about him getting fired. I can't imagine the board are going to be happy with the outlay and subsequent return, but to an extent the main mistake AVB has made is buying a striker who patently doesn't fit with the style of play he's aiming for.
Don't they have a director of football there?
Doubt the manager signed all of those players on his own.
They do, Baldini, but he's very much AVBs man.
And yet some cannot see the comparisons with his mentor!
Ok. Who's calling the police, the FA, Piara Powar and Lord Ouseley about this post?
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I actually mainly thought you were comparing their managerial skills not their egos. I guess they could be quite a like in that department though AVB doesn't get anywhere near as much on me tits as Mourinho did back when he was "the chosen one".
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Fabs, I appreciate what you're saying but I completely disagree.
My recently departed mum was Jewish, which makes me Jewish myself racially, and I lost relatives in the camps in WW2. I'm not Jewish by religion but part of my heritage is, I've thumped somebody before now (admittedly a long time ago) for casual anti-Semitism on the football field, and I very definitely do not need anybody getting offended on my behalf at what the Spurs fans decide to call themselves. On the contrary, I applaud them for it. They've taken a word which was used towards them as an insult, and they've totally robbed it of its power by turning it around and using it as a pure nickname. Most of them aren't even Jewish but, as far as I'm concerned, by doing this they're showing solidarity with their Jewish pals AND showing up the idiots who used it as an insult in the first place for the knuckledraggers that they are.
My recently departed mum was Jewish, which makes me Jewish myself racially, and I lost relatives in the camps in WW2. I'm not Jewish by religion but part of my heritage is, I've thumped somebody before now (admittedly a long time ago) for casual anti-Semitism on the football field, and I very definitely do not need anybody getting offended on my behalf at what the Spurs fans decide to call themselves. On the contrary, I applaud them for it. They've taken a word which was used towards them as an insult, and they've totally robbed it of its power by turning it around and using it as a pure nickname. Most of them aren't even Jewish but, as far as I'm concerned, by doing this they're showing solidarity with their Jewish pals AND showing up the idiots who used it as an insult in the first place for the knuckledraggers that they are.
I always had my suspicions.
Oh my God.
Ok can someone mention Palestine or Afghan and we can really derail the AVB thread!
I tell thee what. I wouldn't fuck with the Jewish lawyers. No sir.
Out of curiosity, if they called themselves k*kes - you'd be ok too? If a team with a large black fan base called themselves, n***ers, would you be ok with the empowerment?
I don't know where I stand - but the fact it promotes such vile anti-semitism in response (and it does), I'm not sure if the benefits outweigh the negatives.
I will say that when we play Tottenham, I do become for those 90 minutes a self-hating yid.
The "kikes" and "n***ers" examples are different IMO. My attitude to the Spurs fans calling themselves "kikes" would indeed be the same as my attitude to them calling themselves "Yids", and for the same reasons. I would have more of a problem with "n***ers" because a general cultural ban has grown up around that word and I don't see why the fans in question - whatever their colour - should be free to use it where I wouldn't be. That seems to me to be as discriminatory as the original racism itself.
And sorry, but I simply don't accept that the reaction of the Spurs fans "promotes anti-Semitism". From my point of view it actually has the opposite effect, ridiculing anti-Semitism and making it and those who perpetrate it look like the pointless relics they always were. I'd add that IMHO such an approach is far more likely to make prejudice, of any description, a thing of the past than constantly being on the lookout for reasons to be offended.
And sorry, but I simply don't accept that the reaction of the Spurs fans "promotes anti-Semitism". From my point of view it actually has the opposite effect, ridiculing anti-Semitism and making it and those who perpetrate it look like the pointless relics they always were. I'd add that IMHO such an approach is far more likely to make prejudice, of any description, a thing of the past than constantly being on the lookout for reasons to be offended.
Are we allowed to use the term "Red Sea Pedestrian"?
True enough. Oh except for their defence and err attack.
How often do you hear anti-semitic abuse or hissing when Spurs don't play?
And why? Because they associate themselves with Jews/Israel etc and take a lot of flak for it (it's an interesting story - read some long articles about it a few years ago). Since it doesn't really happen in England unless a team is facing Spurs, it seems that their 'control' of the word brings out some nasty nasty stuff.
If black people can reappropriate the word nigger for their own reasons, Jewish people should be able to reclaim Yid. The world's gone fucking mental.
Oh, and AVB (I fucking hate that) is a complete helmet.
It is nasty stuff and it stops Jews from going to watch Ajax.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/28/world/europe/28iht-jews.html?_r=0
I doubt that many Spurs fans are Jewish. Most of the Ajax ones are not.
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