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Mystic said:
Its not arguing it out though, its one way insults without provocation, so no, its nit double standards, Modo doesn't get it that bad, and even if he did, he can ignore the culprits, I cant do fuck as that facility isn't available against Rosco. I said months ago, that unless that facility becomes available, or Rosco stops talking to people like they're cunts, that this would keep escalating, well, look what's happened.
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Modo gets it just as bad as you do, if not worse. Least you have support from Hansern and the rest of the site. @Modo sees through it and continues, because it's THE INTERNET. None of this is real and none of this matters. Some fella doesn't like you. And? Just don't reply to him. I don't like most of the cunts on here yet I HAVE to read their fucking bilge, just in case. You don't.
@cloggypop how do you do the ignore Mod thingy
Follow his instructions @Mystic and you can ignore Ross.

All we want is for people to try and see this site for something other than vomiting 2 sentence opinions

We want it to create debate. We want it to get more members.

Seeing a twitter feed in a thread isn't gonna do that
 
Fabio said:
We should act like we want others to act, but when we're ignored and called all sorts, it gets a little bit harder each time for us to hide our tongue.

Ross got it the worst out of all of us, so obviously he'd be first to snap. He tried the nice authoritative approach and got ignored.

I've been called so much on here, yet it's rare I retort in similar fashion, and if I do its in jest, never in malice.

I've never banned anyone and I'd like to think I wouldn't solely because there's too many good lads on here who post good stuff, and I'd hate to turn them away.

Even when people push for Modo to be banned I won't budge because all he's doing is offering a difference if opinion. He's not coarse with it, he's not rude. He just posts it.

It's why I always advocate the ignore function. Even on mods if you can get that adblock extension to work

Oh and I agree about reputable journos
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Respect to you for standing up for your views, but there's a fair bit in this that's just wrong and sounds like an excuse for inaction.

Ironically yours is an excellent example of "the nice authoritative approach". That's not Ross's way and never has been. When he's been nice (which is now extremely rare, though it wasn't always) it's not been in an authoritative context. When he's been "authoritative" it's invariably couched in aggressive and supercilious terms.

As for Modo, I really don't know how often it has to be restated but the stick he's received hasn't been for having different opinions. It's been for constantly restating those same opinions, often in threads about different players altogether, like a dog going back to its own vomit. In this very thread about Sanchez you'll find examples of him making snide remarks about Lallana when there was precisely zero need to do so. He's not coarse or rude, as you say, but he does these things with a persistence which he knows will be extremely annoying, and some of your Mod colleagues have picked him up on it for that reason.
 
Hansern said:
I know it isnt easy Mark, and you're doing a great job. The thing is I wouldnt retort to insults to any of the other mods, you included, because you dont give me any reason to. So clearly that approach works and Ross doesnt.

Anyway, Sanchez eh? London wannabe wanker
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Ross tried this tactic too though, but it was during the phase when everyone thought he was a troll because of aaaaaaall of the Suarez bollocks that he's done. His message got lost in the difference of opinions.

Now people just remember Ross the troll turning in to Ross the cunt

Ross is a fucking BRILLIANT fella in real life (argumentative though).

He's gone to this extreme because what's he got to lose? Site already thinks him a troll (he's not) or a cunt (he's not)

And yeah, alexis the southern fairy
 
Modo trolls for the responses though (lets not pretend it's just because he's "negative") Hansern and Mystic get it because Ross and a minority don't like the range of Tweets being posted. I don't think they particularly go looking for trouble, you probably couldn't find two more passive posters.
 
Judge Jules said:
Respect to you for standing up for your views, but there's a fair bit in this that's just wrong and sounds like an excuse for inaction.

Ironically yours is an excellent example of "the nice authoritative approach". That's not Ross's way and never has been. When he's been nice (which is now extremely rare, though it wasn't always) it's not been in an authoritative context. When he's been "authoritative" it's invariably couched in aggressive and supercilious terms.

As for Modo, I really don't know how often it has to be restated but the stick he's received hasn't been for having different opinions. It's been for constantly restating those same opinions, often in threads about different players altogether, like a dog going back to its own vomit. In this very thread about Sanchez you'll find examples of him making snide remarks about Lallana when there was precisely zero need to do so. He's not coarse or rude, as you say, but he does these things with a persistence which he knows will be extremely annoying, and some of your Mod colleagues have picked him up on it for that reason.
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Agree about point 1 to a degree, but I still think Ross has gone scarface (the world needs people like me), however disagree with point 2

Modo is now a troll because people turned him in to one. He's enjoying along the villain, which is fucking gutting because he's great poster on his day.

It seems a difference of opinion on here opens the option for people to call you a troll.

Honestly, if I was called a troll I would go to TOWN. If people already think so little of you then why care what they think? Go off the deep end!

And yes, he been picked up on it I've asked him to tone it down whilst others have been a bit more *ahem* strong with it.

For me it's understanding the balance. Everyone seems to see things as black and white and that's why there's such hostility at times.

Modo is entitled to think we overpaid for Lallana, because we did

Others are right to disagree with that.

The majority shouldn't set upon the minority (in number I mean, we ain't no racists)

Modo can't answer the question "who should we have bought instead" because he's not privy to their wants and needs and what we can offer. Retrospectively he can, as they players would have moved for set fees.

If you disagree with Modo ignore him

If you disagree with Ross, move right past his post.
 
Fabio said:
Ross tried this tactic too though, but it was during the phase when everyone thought he was a troll because of aaaaaaall of the Suarez bollocks that he's done. His message got lost in the difference of opinions.

Now people just remember Ross the troll turning in to Ross the cunt

Ross is a fucking BRILLIANT fella in real life (argumentative though).

He's gone to this extreme because what's he got to lose? Site already thinks him a troll (he's not) or a cunt (he's not)

And yeah, alexis the southern fairy
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It's not just about Ross and, yeh he's sound in the flesh. It's the absolute shit fest that occurs again and again. It's why I needed to get away from the place for a bit, because it gets on your nipples good and proper. I get some see it as "only the internet" and stuff but I view with pub banter scale. If you'd get away with it with a bunch of lads in the bar then it's fair game but if it's enough for someone to get irked with then it's gone too far.
 
mark1975 said:
Modo trolls for the responses though (lets not pretend it's just because he's "negative") Hansern and Mystic get it because Ross and a minority don't like the range of Tweets being posted. I don't think they particularly go looking for trouble, you probably couldn't find two more passive posters.
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They don't go looking for it, that's true. They're both nice lads with no malice

Modo has been painted the villain so he's lapping it up
 
Semolina Lipton said:
It's not just about Ross and, yeh he's sound in the flesh. It's the absolute shit fest that occurs again and again. It's why I needed to get away from the place for a bit, because it gets on your nipples good and proper. I get some see it as "only the internet" and stuff but I view with pub banter scale. If you'd get away with it with a bunch of lads in the bar then it's fair game but if it's enough for someone to get irked with then it's gone too far.
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Which is fair enough. For me, it's the Internet and if someone pisses me off I log off for a bit. Believe me, it's happened a lot recently. I tend to leave once a month now, knowing I'll come back when I'm ready.

If people are actively offended by people then please, use the ignore function or report them.

Pm one of the mods or use the report post button.

We get told we're shite mods, yet no one actively points out someone has gone too far. There's channels for people to go down, but they tend to do indignation better.

I've often been told my modding skills are wab. But I can only act on he information I have.
 
Fabio said:
Which is fair enough. For me, it's the Internet and if someone pisses me off I log off for a bit. Believe me, it's happened a lot recently. I tend to leave once a month now, knowing I'll come back when I'm ready.

If people are actively offended by people then please, use the ignore function or report them.

Pm one of the mods or use the report post button.

We get told we're shite mods, yet no one actively points out someone has gone too far. There's channels for people to go down, but they tend to do indignation better.

I've often been told my modding skills are wab. But I can only act on he information I have.
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Mods should only need to step in if the shite is constant otherwise aren't people grown up and self aware enough to reign in their own bollocks? I've been a dick in the past plenty of times, realised it, apologised if I think it necessary and reset me controls. It's not hard. You can't ignore the constant bollocks though. If it's constant, it's not likely to be heat of the moment more like deliberated.
 
Semolina Lipton said:
Mods should only need to step in if the shite is constant otherwise aren't people grown up and self aware enough to reign in their own bollocks? I've been a dick in the past plenty of times, realised it, apologised if I think it necessary and reset me controls. It's not hard. You can't ignore the constant bollocks though. If it's constant, it's not likely to be heat of the moment more like deliberated.
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A lot of people on here are self aware, which is why we're so passive.

When things are constant, what can we do? We ban the ones who are coarse or genuinely insulting (Brendan), who show aggressive behaviour, etc.

As an example again, Modo isn't coarse, or aggressive, or anything. He's just being repetitive.

For me, trolling perpetually shouldn't get a ban, as it's SO FUCKING EASY to ignore.

Troll gets bored, goes back to normal.

Simple.
 
Fabio said:
Modo gets it just as bad as you do, if not worse. Least you have support from Hansern and the rest of the site. @Modo sees through it and continues, because it's THE INTERNET. None of this is real and none of this matters. Some fella doesn't like you. And? Just don't reply to him. I don't like most of the cunts on here yet I HAVE to read their fucking bilge, just in case. You don't.
@cloggypop how do you do the ignore Mod thingy
Follow his instructions @Mystic and you can ignore Ross.

All we want is for people to try and see this site for something other than vomiting 2 sentence opinions

We want it to create debate. We want it to get more members.

Seeing a twitter feed in a thread isn't gonna do that
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You signed up for the job, and to listen to me moan, you bought it upon yourself.

This isn't me moaning about someone not liking me on the internet, I'm not a child, the point is I've been getting hounded out of a forum Ive been a member of for over a decade (including koptalk) because of what? I posted a couple of tweets to provoke some light discussion? And now the admin has some form of embittered agenda against me and the few others? I don't even post them that much, for gods sake, its pathetic and childish. I'm aware of how to block Rosco via scripts, but the problem is I post from about 5 different devices, the primary one being my phone, which its impossible to do on. Even so, the idea of ignoring is last resort and not something I want to do, the real solution would be Rosco to stop acting like a complete cunt to everyone who he's deemed an inferior posted due to their twitter preferences.

mark1975 said:
Modo trolls for the responses though (lets not pretend it's just because he's "negative") Hansern and Mystic get it because Ross and a minority don't like the range of Tweets being posted. I don't think they particularly go looking for trouble, you probably couldn't find two more passive posters.
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Exactly.
 
I despair of here. I really fucking do. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

If people listened to the management initially about Twitter, catch all threads, and not starting new threads, instead of writing Ross off as a troll, then we wouldn't be at this point.

It's fucking bobbins

Post what you like, as you all clearly will regardless of any points I'm trying to make.
 
Fabio said:
I despair of here. I really fucking do. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

If people listened to the management initially about Twitter, catch all threads, and not starting new threads, instead of writing Ross off as a troll, then we wouldn't be at this point.

It's fucking bobbins

Post what you like, as you all clearly will regardless of any points I'm trying to make.
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Here's an idea for ya. Create a Twitter shite thread, lock it. Mods move any non respectable journo shit in there so it can be read and not replied to. That way people can still read it but not reply and debate in other threads stays fluid
 
Semolina Lipton said:
Here's an idea for ya. Create a Twitter shite thread, lock it. Mods move any non respectable journo shit in there so it can be read and not replied to. That way people can still read it but not reply and debate in other threads stays fluid
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We all have full time jobs, we can't be trawling through threads to find tweets just to move it to a new thread. Besides which, we tried that to create debates in new threads by moving posts to a new one, with a friendly "hey that's a good post, maybe start a new thread?"

No one listened and no one cared.

Clearly, none of you give a fuck what some of us lot think so whatevers. I can't say I care any more. I've spent 2 hours trying to convince anyone willing to listen what some of us owners would like you the posters to refrain from doing, but you don't want to. And I've done it solely to try and make here a better place for actual discussions.

So fuck it.
 
Semolina Lipton said:
Here's an idea for ya. Create a Twitter shite thread, lock it. Mods move any non respectable journo shit in there so it can be read and not replied to. That way people can still read it but not reply and debate in other threads stays fluid
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THIS THIS THIS.

I came in here to post exactly this.

Why the fucking fuck this hasn't been done already I'll never know. Some people like Twitter rumours. Some people don't. Let them go their separate ways and we can all live in peace without this ridiculously tedious bickering.
 
You should take loads of the stuff off the news thread as well. Most of that is as full of shite as twitter ITKs.
 
Fabio said:
We all have full time jobs, we can't be trawling through threads to find tweets just to move it to a new thread. Besides which, we tried that to create debates in new threads by moving posts to a new one, with a friendly "hey that's a good post, maybe start a new thread?"

No one listened and no one cared.

Clearly, none of you give a fuck what some of us lot think so whatevers. I can't say I care any more. I've spent 2 hours trying to convince anyone willing to listen what some of us owners would like you the posters to refrain from doing, but you don't want to. And I've done it solely to try and make here a better place for actual discussions.

So fuck it.
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Give some other volunteers mod options but not full admin. @RedNinja can do that. Just trying to help fella but I'll leave it now as it's getting on your tits
 
I really don't have a problem with people reigning in the tweets, I personally appreciate them, but if people want to do what Sunny said then that's fine by me, I don't know why it hasn't been suggested already. I just didn't think it was fair to make a comparison to what Modo (or others) do in comparison, it's not detrimental in the same way, yet it's being treated the same.
 
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