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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=38856.msg1052470#msg1052470 date=1265762991]
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38856.msg1051961#msg1051961 date=1265721624]
and closing in on the 26 years that it took manu to win their first league title since the last one.
what's really despressing is right here right now are we any closer to winning the league than when rafa first took over? another thing that is despressing is there are now a lot of liverpool fans who weren't even BORN when we last won the league title.
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Oh fuck off!
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I echo your sentiments, John.
I do think though that the bit in bold is the reason why so many of us are content to play for scraps like CL qualification and feel that that alone should entitle Rafa to an CBE.
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You know what Avvy, I've never been happy with the CL qualification scraps. But being more realistic than some LFC fans, I've accepted that this is our level currently. Last year we overperformed and this obviously got our hopes up for this year. There's been plenty of that over the last 20 years, so we can't blame Rafa entirely for that!
However, to start a thread reminding us of the fact its been 20 years, is the sort of thing a Manc rat or a Blueshite would do (not that they have anything to crow about!).
Its bleeding obvious, of course we're not happy its been 20 years, of course we're not happy with the position we're in, but our title winning escapades of the 70's and 80's do not and never gave us the divine right to expect we would always be in with a shout - although plenty of LFC fans at the time acted that way. I distinctly remember in the 84 season being blase about the treble. Maybe it was my age or maybe, I had become so used to us winning trophy after trophy.
However, I don't need to be reminded by doom mongers on here, how long its been, how shite we may be now, how this season "is better than last" etc etc.
Its all become very boring. So, a bit like the team should be, I'm concentrating on one game at a time. I don't even know who we're playing next week.....ok I do, but I'm not focussed on it!
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I've been so critical of Rafa in the past that I've realised that my post actully sounded like a dig; but it really wasn't aimed at Rafa...
OUr decline started long before him.
I just think that the longer we shrug our shoulders and accept our situation, the harder it'll be to get out of it.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=38856.msg1052470#msg1052470 date=1265762991]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=38856.msg1052256#msg1052256 date=1265744405]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38856.msg1051961#msg1051961 date=1265721624]
and closing in on the 26 years that it took manu to win their first league title since the last one.
what's really despressing is right here right now are we any closer to winning the league than when rafa first took over? another thing that is despressing is there are now a lot of liverpool fans who weren't even BORN when we last won the league title.
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Oh fuck off!
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I echo your sentiments, John.
I do think though that the bit in bold is the reason why so many of us are content to play for scraps like CL qualification and feel that that alone should entitle Rafa to an CBE.
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You know what Avvy, I've never been happy with the CL qualification scraps. But being more realistic than some LFC fans, I've accepted that this is our level currently. Last year we overperformed and this obviously got our hopes up for this year. There's been plenty of that over the last 20 years, so we can't blame Rafa entirely for that!
However, to start a thread reminding us of the fact its been 20 years, is the sort of thing a Manc rat or a Blueshite would do (not that they have anything to crow about!).
Its bleeding obvious, of course we're not happy its been 20 years, of course we're not happy with the position we're in, but our title winning escapades of the 70's and 80's do not and never gave us the divine right to expect we would always be in with a shout - although plenty of LFC fans at the time acted that way. I distinctly remember in the 84 season being blase about the treble. Maybe it was my age or maybe, I had become so used to us winning trophy after trophy.
However, I don't need to be reminded by doom mongers on here, how long its been, how shite we may be now, how this season "is better than last" etc etc.
Its all become very boring. So, a bit like the team should be, I'm concentrating on one game at a time. I don't even know who we're playing next week.....ok I do, but I'm not focussed on it!
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I've been so critical of Rafa in the past that I've realised that my post actully sounded like a dig; but it really wasn't aimed at Rafa...
OUr decline started long before him.
I just think that the longer we shrug our shoulders and accept our situation, the harder it'll be to get out of it.