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Is what I think too.
Rodgers team was better, but take Suarez out and it's not half the team.
This team doesn't gave anywhere near the reliance on one player.
This team doesn't gave anywhere near the reliance on one player.
This 'team' is better, we are not reliant upon one player, anyone can chip in..
If we had Suarez in this side, we would killing the opposition out of site..
When it comes to watching us, and our style of play.. Though one to call..
I guess it comes down to where we finish at the end of the Season..
If we had Suarez in this side, we would killing the opposition out of site..
When it comes to watching us, and our style of play.. Though one to call..
I guess it comes down to where we finish at the end of the Season..
wholeheartedly agree
Hard on, Suarez would destroy our back line, but I think this side would do well as starving him of service, which is really the only way of stopping him. I also think Klopp would be much more capable of setting our team up to play a way that would negate Rodgers team than the other way around, so for that reason alone, I'll go with Klopps team.
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15-14 klopp. Suarez would be class in klopp's team, hardworking from the front etc
Not even close - Klopp's team plays better football, but Suarez and Studge with Coutinho behind them? No chance imo for our current team to control that.
Stats favor Rodgers' side:
Rodgers 2013-14 team: 2.65 goal scored per game, 1.3 conceded.
Klopp's 2016 team: 2.4 goals scored per game, 1.3 conceded.
One thing that might swing it in Klopp's favor is that his pressing is better-organized than Rodgers'. Plus his back 4 personnel seems a lot better (although it's not quite borne out by the stats yet): Clyne-Matip-Lovren-Milner vs Johnson-Skrtel-Sakho/Agger-Flanagan/Cissokho.
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Interesting question, but answers given seem to suggest memory loss. It is very unfair to give full credit to Suarez for that season - as I remember it - we were winning with clean sheets at the start of that season without him because of a ban. So my analysis is the follwoing:-
1) Under Rodgers we had players who came good that season with great form, in the three S's (Sterling, Studge, Suarez). Also Hendo started to emerge proper that season, and SG was delivering what remained of his last spark, with Coutinho playing his part now and then.
2) What Suarez did do for us was the 'pressing' - all by himself, and with Rodgers teams - there was no clear build up - it was all about getting the ball to the front men to do their 'magic' which they did against nearly all the teams.
3) It goes without saying that if Klopp had Suarez - he would be playing 4-4-2 as as Suarez alone could do the pressing by himself and the scoring.
4) Under Klopp the team mentality is far higher up the order; the build up play is more organised; there is a defensive measure in place and players look more disciplined. We would for instance against Crystal Palace folded today under Rodgers. Under Rodgers we really needed that X number of goals cushion to be sure of victory. This season we have managed to defend a one goal lead under pressure against Chelsea, Swansea, and WBA.
This is a much better 'Team' - it offers the opposition few chances; and is fitter than any of our competitors. I honestly think that when opposition teams press us - I just know they will not last for more than 10 minutes (unless its Spurs) before they have to withdraw - our levels are well high now. I really likes Klopp's approach to defense - which is basically NOT to give the opportunities to the opposition to create/ have corners etc.. that kind of works.
In truth - this team gives me more re-assurance of success; than Rodgers team because with Rodgers we rightly/wrongly associate Suarez as being the main gear box for that team. The current Klopp team is just awesome to watch because of the 'whole' approach - Rodgers team was great to watch but only because Suarez made it happen.
1) Under Rodgers we had players who came good that season with great form, in the three S's (Sterling, Studge, Suarez). Also Hendo started to emerge proper that season, and SG was delivering what remained of his last spark, with Coutinho playing his part now and then.
2) What Suarez did do for us was the 'pressing' - all by himself, and with Rodgers teams - there was no clear build up - it was all about getting the ball to the front men to do their 'magic' which they did against nearly all the teams.
3) It goes without saying that if Klopp had Suarez - he would be playing 4-4-2 as as Suarez alone could do the pressing by himself and the scoring.
4) Under Klopp the team mentality is far higher up the order; the build up play is more organised; there is a defensive measure in place and players look more disciplined. We would for instance against Crystal Palace folded today under Rodgers. Under Rodgers we really needed that X number of goals cushion to be sure of victory. This season we have managed to defend a one goal lead under pressure against Chelsea, Swansea, and WBA.
This is a much better 'Team' - it offers the opposition few chances; and is fitter than any of our competitors. I honestly think that when opposition teams press us - I just know they will not last for more than 10 minutes (unless its Spurs) before they have to withdraw - our levels are well high now. I really likes Klopp's approach to defense - which is basically NOT to give the opportunities to the opposition to create/ have corners etc.. that kind of works.
In truth - this team gives me more re-assurance of success; than Rodgers team because with Rodgers we rightly/wrongly associate Suarez as being the main gear box for that team. The current Klopp team is just awesome to watch because of the 'whole' approach - Rodgers team was great to watch but only because Suarez made it happen.
Nah but I hate all this obsession with comparing every team, player, manager, system and so on. It's all you see on social media nowadays.
Klopp's is unquestionably the better team overall and in most cases that would be enough, but not against the kind of brilliance Suarez brings to the table. Rodgers' team would win, probably by a score similar to yesterday's.
Didn't Klopp's team beat Barca in pre season. With Suarez on the pitch?
That team with Hyppia, Mascherano, Alonso, peak Gerrard and Torres would absolutely destroy them. If it weren't for injuries and the lack of a bench we would have won the league.
People tend to forget that Torres and Gerrard missed like 10 league games that season.
Edit: Torres 14, Gerrard 7.
Isn't that the season we sold Keane for no reason?
You forgot to mention Carragher in your list
14.5 if you include the time Torres was subbed off for reasons.
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