FWIW I reckon we'll sign a striker for £20-25m with what's left of the budget+Sterling money. Then any further signings will depend on getting rid of the dross.
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FWIW I reckon we'll sign a striker for £20-25m with what's left of the budget+Sterling money. Then any further signings will depend on getting rid of the dross.
He played out wide in Southamptons 433 didn't he?
Did he? I reckon he'd be awful there personally.
Anyway, I'm not for changing on this one. He's not very good and could fetch a decent amount in the market. We should sell now.
You'll all agree with me when he's worth half as much next summer.
Anyway, I'm not for changing on this one. He's not very good and could fetch a decent amount in the market. We should sell now.
You'll all agree with me when he's worth half as much next summer.
Yeah but there just doesn't seem to be anyone of the caliber we're used to. The only one worth a go at is Bacca, but I assume he'll go somewhere with CL.
What do you think we could get now?
Bearing in mind were going to be paying part of his wages wherever he goes for the next four years
He's still in the England squad, so that helps. £12-15m I think. I hadn't considered wages, are they really that excessive?
If we can pay the clause I'd have thought we'd get Bacca. Something tells me a guy like that with no previous time at a big club is going to prefer the wages we can pay than the token CL time Roma or wherever can offer.
I think he's supposed to be around the 70k mark.
Which is over and above what I think anyone would give him.
I can see us owing him 30k a week for four years. 6m or so?
If we could.sell for twelve, settle with him for six - I think I'd do that now.
Can't see where the offer is coming from though
Which is over and above what I think anyone would give him.
I can see us owing him 30k a week for four years. 6m or so?
If we could.sell for twelve, settle with him for six - I think I'd do that now.
Can't see where the offer is coming from though
Maybe if we bring out a line of hair products he could promote
The guy who advised Southampton to sell him is also there, as transfer advisor to Pocchetino
Hmm, doesn't strike me as ludicrously over the top tbh. Wage budgets will have already gone up since we signed him too, given the tv deal.
Someone like Spurs or West Ham would pay him £60k or so IMO.
It's a much bigger question than just Lallana, & merits it's own thread imo, but it's way more complicated than just training them.
Part of the issue is the type of players Rodgers buys, mostly skilful tricky players, not the tallest or muscular players at all (our team is often towered over by the opposition), & any attempt to bulk them up usually seems to destroy their balance & pace.
I think they need to reassess the way the conditioning, as Rosco said they train them like long distance runners, pace & distance measures are favoured over strength & muscle stamina, whereas it should be balanced between all of these.
I'd love to see what benefits you might get out of training them like MMA fighters.
Ha! I almost, almost added that we'd be better training like mma do, but as I don't actually know jack shit about training myself I thought I might be talking out of my arse hole.
I think he's a very good player and hopefully he'll get a lot of game time next season. Will we play a lot of games next season and will suffer injuries to attacking players at various points of the season. Coutinho and Frimino are the two ahead of him in the pecking orde right now. Lallana, Ibe and Lazar will all rotate and feature depending on form and who we are playing against. Nothing wrong with having decent options lads.
Glenn Hoddle:
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Firmino I have only seen a slight bit of. He came on and scored for Brazil when they played at the Emirates against Chile. I have not seen that much of him.
He’s got a good reputation as a goal scoring midfield player. He’s not a leader of the line but he’s an attacking midfield player that scores goals.
This is a classic case of why the England team suffers going forward. If Coutinho, a foreigner, if Firmino, a foreigner, comes in and they are in that same mould as maybe Lallana.
Lallana gets pushed out wide for England at times for Liverpool. For me when he has come on for England he has proved best in the middle.
He’s a very good attacking player and has some great ability. But he doesn’t feel at home anywhere at the moment whether in an England shirt or a Liverpool shirt.
I hope these two lads don’t squash his ability or his opportunities to play for club.
That is where we at with quite a lot of players. Barkley, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Walcott and Townsend come to mind.
This is a real problem. We have got so many “senior” players that are not going to get enough opportunities for the Euros.
Lallana needs to be given his head to perform at the very best. He’s got to be allowed to have a few off games to bring out the best in him.
He’s not an average midfield player who wins the ball to give it to someone else. He’s the one you give the ball to. But it’s tough to play that way and be consistent.
You have to give people with creativity the licence to not create so the confidence maintains within themselves.[/article]
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Firmino I have only seen a slight bit of. He came on and scored for Brazil when they played at the Emirates against Chile. I have not seen that much of him.
He’s got a good reputation as a goal scoring midfield player. He’s not a leader of the line but he’s an attacking midfield player that scores goals.
This is a classic case of why the England team suffers going forward. If Coutinho, a foreigner, if Firmino, a foreigner, comes in and they are in that same mould as maybe Lallana.
Lallana gets pushed out wide for England at times for Liverpool. For me when he has come on for England he has proved best in the middle.
He’s a very good attacking player and has some great ability. But he doesn’t feel at home anywhere at the moment whether in an England shirt or a Liverpool shirt.
I hope these two lads don’t squash his ability or his opportunities to play for club.
That is where we at with quite a lot of players. Barkley, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Walcott and Townsend come to mind.
This is a real problem. We have got so many “senior” players that are not going to get enough opportunities for the Euros.
Lallana needs to be given his head to perform at the very best. He’s got to be allowed to have a few off games to bring out the best in him.
He’s not an average midfield player who wins the ball to give it to someone else. He’s the one you give the ball to. But it’s tough to play that way and be consistent.
You have to give people with creativity the licence to not create so the confidence maintains within themselves.[/article]
Where does @Silver Sean stand with regards to his Arsenal haircut?
They took yuuuur jerbs
We'll start the season with Firmino up front and Coutinho & Lallana in behind him - assuming Sterling's off.
It's up to Ings, Origi & Markovic to force their way in to contention.
If Sturridge happens to get fit - then that'll be a pleasant problem to deal with.
It's up to Ings, Origi & Markovic to force their way in to contention.
If Sturridge happens to get fit - then that'll be a pleasant problem to deal with.
Probably - plenty of options for Rodgers to tinker incessantly with formations & starting lineups.
Lallana plays the game the opposite way to how we want to play, he wants it slow with lots of touches and beating the same man loads where as the team needs it fast with few touches. He is a decent player for a mid to low PL team nothing more.
What the Lallana buy does is show up how poor Rodgers and the scouting team are.
The best he can hope for is squad player and early Europa and carling cup games.
What the Lallana buy does is show up how poor Rodgers and the scouting team are.
The best he can hope for is squad player and early Europa and carling cup games.
I'll keep banging on the same drum. All AM's deserve judging playing aside a proper striker, not a Italian beanstalk or a 20 year old winger stuck up top for a lack out of a better alternative. In my mind Lallana wasn't failing to notice amazing attacking movement in front of him last year. There wasn't any, and therefore we haven't provided him much of an opportunity to succeed yet. His lack of success is every bit of the clubs failing as his own. The same is true of Markovic
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