We're Dickheads (Revised Edition)
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And Mignolet. There arent any exuces left for picking those two.
I guess it depends on how you look at it.
If you instruct the players to cross the ball in and they're executing that tactic poorly. What do you do? Carry on or try something else?
Crossing is a game of percentages at the best of times.
For me the buck almost always stops with the manager. I believe that irrespective of what I think of the manager (in this instance, I like our one).
Mignolet is being fingered as one of the culprits, but seeing the WBA goals again on Match of the Day, I am not sure any other keeper would have kept them out.
I don't think that slamming our players is a constructive approach to the result. Personally I think WBA had a storming game which they deserved to win, and I am ready to move on.
Call me naive but does a manager really need to instruct Premier League players what to do when in possession of the ball?
Interesting observation from watching MOTD. I see further up, you are still saying Henderson isn't good enough, even though to anyone and his dog it was glaringly obvious he was a 100% improvement from when Can was on the pitch. As to Mignolet, forget the goals for a minute ( whether anyone else would have stopped them or not ). How about the disallowed VAR goal? Header from about what, 2 yards out and because the opposition had a player in front of him, he made no attempt whatsoever to reach the ball. Or how about the offside goal in the second half? Again, 3 yards out, it's him with the ability to reach with his arm to punch the ball versus a striker who can only use his head, and yet the striker puts the ball in the net only to be ruled for offside. He is an absolute shambles and should be in the managers office first thing tomorrow to be told to find another club as he is never playing for us again*
* Even if both keepers are struck down with scarlet fever before Tuesday.
* Even if both keepers are struck down with scarlet fever before Tuesday.
Wijnladum and Can were probably the most useless I’ve seen them. But we’ve known this all along which is why Keita was bought and there was the pursuit of Goretzka and Lamar etc. It’s Mignolet’s selection which baffled. Once he’s no longer Number 1, he has no business starting. That’s on Klopp.
It would be great if you mind your own business you blithering fool.
Yesterday was indefensible and an accumulation of all our concerns about Klopp and about our lack of ambition. We're totally disorganized, lacking in leadership and we haven't solved key problems in the side, repeatedly across a few transfer windows. We've sold our best player and people are defending it as a situation we just couldn't get out of, which is a load of crap.
I said we would look flat and we would fall out of the top four and remaining competitions. That's one gone, if we get knocked out the CL and drop out the top four, I hope Klopp gets the bollocking he deserves, if all that happens then he's got next season to put it right, that's more generous than what his last few predecessors have had. He might have history in Germany but it's beginning to count for fuck all here. We were a laughing stock last night and defensively we haven't progressed at all, if anything, we've regressed.
I said we would look flat and we would fall out of the top four and remaining competitions. That's one gone, if we get knocked out the CL and drop out the top four, I hope Klopp gets the bollocking he deserves, if all that happens then he's got next season to put it right, that's more generous than what his last few predecessors have had. He might have history in Germany but it's beginning to count for fuck all here. We were a laughing stock last night and defensively we haven't progressed at all, if anything, we've regressed.
It really doesn't, we couldn't defend and he crumbled after we sold Suarez. I don't see why Klopp should get any special treatment. Dalglish won a cup and got to another final, yet still got the boot.
People are still going on about selling Coutinho half way through the season as if they were privy to every word and every action that the club and Klopp spoke or did to keep the little shit. They berate the club for not having a plan or not having a replacement lined up as if they know everything that goes on in Klopps office. They cite players as available and assume just because Johnny Dickwad from the S*n hasn't reported how much we've bid for him yet that we've never even considered them. They assume that every player they see on fifa, with half decent stats or every player they watch jealously being snapped up by other clubs would a) want to come here and b) tick all the boxes required to improve us significantly. I would argue that these people don't have a clue what efforts have been made, are being made or will be made before the end of the window. Personally, I don't believe a word that's uttered in the press and I don't assume that media silence means the club are sat twiddling their thumbs and doing nothing. I'd like to believe the club have learnt their lesson and are now conducting their business in private. Incredibly, some people seem to be running out of patience with Klopp after a lacklustre performance against a hungry Swans team and after a fair beating against a very well disciplined Baggies team, as if prior to these results we had not been playing some great football culminating in a famous victory against high flying City. Our team are far from perfect, our boss is far from perfect our owners are far from perfect but, for me, everything about our club is moving in the right direction except for the far from perfect fans sadly.
I said at the game, that it was odd to give the captain's armband to a man who won't sign a contract.
Klopp doesn't need to be treated differently to Rodgers you say?
23 November 2014.
13 December 2014. We are sitting 11th in the league, having lost 7 matches, scoring 19 goals and conceded 22 goals.
1 January 2015. We've moved up to 8th in the league, two wins and two draws the beginning of a purple patch.
1 February 2015. Another 3 wins takes us to 7th in the league, while scoring a bucketload of goals (33) and only conceding 27.
2 June 2015. I was going to look at your reactions after that purple patch ended with (coincidentally also two losses in a row) a meek 1-2 defeat to the Scum and a 1-4 capitulation to the Arse, but I thought it might have been a little reactionary, so I pulled this comment a week after we limped to 6th place with a staggering goals scored and 48 conceded. And also after farewelling Gerrard with a 1-6 reverse at Stoke.
Surely you would have been as scathing of Rodgers as you have Klopp, since they should be treated no differently?
FWIW, we're in fourth place, with 47 points (only 15 behind all of Rodgers in that season) already having scored 54 and (already) having conceded 29. We're in a much better way so of course he's going to get more leeway from most fans.
23 November 2014.
13 December 2014. We are sitting 11th in the league, having lost 7 matches, scoring 19 goals and conceded 22 goals.
1 January 2015. We've moved up to 8th in the league, two wins and two draws the beginning of a purple patch.
1 February 2015. Another 3 wins takes us to 7th in the league, while scoring a bucketload of goals (33) and only conceding 27.
2 June 2015. I was going to look at your reactions after that purple patch ended with (coincidentally also two losses in a row) a meek 1-2 defeat to the Scum and a 1-4 capitulation to the Arse, but I thought it might have been a little reactionary, so I pulled this comment a week after we limped to 6th place with a staggering goals scored and 48 conceded. And also after farewelling Gerrard with a 1-6 reverse at Stoke.
Surely you would have been as scathing of Rodgers as you have Klopp, since they should be treated no differently?
FWIW, we're in fourth place, with 47 points (only 15 behind all of Rodgers in that season) already having scored 54 and (already) having conceded 29. We're in a much better way so of course he's going to get more leeway from most fans.
He should of never been appointed in first place mark
Appointing Rodgers clearly showed the clubs lack of ambition
Much like the failure to put our hands in our pockets when it comes to buying proven talent
I'm not a Rodgers fan but how can you point any criticism at him whatsoever when we came within a whisker of winning the title ? Weird. His appointment wasn't a mistake but neither was his sacking.
So Rodgers was a lack of ambition and Klopp is a victim of a lack of ambition?
I despair sometimes.
Not so much shit as it is inconvenient for the pseudo objective bollocks you come up with. i'm not the only one who's noticed that you hate Klopp because he took your boy's job. And it's ok, just don't hide behind transparent attempts to sound magnanimous.
"It'd be nice if people actually backed and supported him though, instead of reading crap threads about who to replace him with, or commenting about how promising a manager he is, while giving him a 10 game deadline to work miracles or do one."
Same shit, different treatment.
It's pretty well documented that Balotelli was forced on him, but he said he would at least try to work with him. Benteke was actually the replacement striker we bought, but it was a bad buy, so let's not pretend we didn't plan for life without Suarez, we just got it wrong.
And his inexperience shone through both in the title campaign and more so the following season..
That's our problem always a nearly team
We never build upon it correctly.. its incredibly frustrating when the finances are there to do just that.. So its probably more an argument the infrastructure this club is built upon
Id take the Chelsea way of doing things if it meant the trophy haul they have had over the last 15 years
The writing is on wall if we don't invest in the playing squad over the next week..
In a market if you want success your going to have to put your hands in your pocket, the club need to do just that
And you're calling for a "proper manager" after a second defeat on the back of a 18 game unbeaten run no?
Just to add some perspective to this selectively amnesiac rubbish.
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