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Tom Ince

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If its true, it's just dire.

We won't catch City and Chelsea for a while. Arsenal are ahead of us and signing top players.

United and Spurs are vulnerable so we need to capitalise now more than ever as it won't last and gambling on young, unproven players isn't the way to do it.

Really? We're not going to do it the Chelsea or City way are we? It was just a couple of years ago that we were laughing at Arsenal trying to do it by gambling on young unproven players.
 
We don't have any long term solutions at CB outside of Sakho at this point. Having young depth isn't a luxury in the modern game, it's a requisite. If you really think that more than 1 of Kolo/Skrtel/Agger are going to be squad fixtures past next season, then it's a valid point, but I can't see it playing out like that. Sakho is a squad fixture, but Agger/Skrtel/Kolo are all fairly average, and we don't have much of anybody in the pipeline given Coates tearing his ACL.

Hindsight is 20/20 and all that, sure now we could be using an extra DM, regardless of if they were a fairly average player given our options, but it's absurd to track all the way back to the summer window. I imagine having an extra 8M now wouldn't make a difference in if we sign someone or not, 15M even. I'm sure there's a 15-20M pool available if we pull the strings we need to, it's just a matter of actually finding the right target, agreeing on him, negotiating a deal, and completing a signing that we keep getting hung up on.

Surely we can't simultaneously be broke and be scouting Salah for several months. The front office would know the FFP situation well before the window and wouldn't even bother with the intensive scouting and talks given we had no funds anyways, unless we planned on moving some players, which clearly hasn't been the case. There hasn't been a single decent rumor indicating we're looking to sell anybody in several months, which is telling as well.

All this tells me that we have money to spend, but can't find the right target to spend it on. Whether or not that hurts us in the long run remains to be seen, but for the time being it's not looking fantastic.
Sakho will be a long term fixture but you forget that Wisdom and Kelly are both centre halves. They're an option. The Illori purchase wasn't an immediate need. Our first team needed major strengthening and the likes of Aspas, Cisokho (granted that its a loan move) cant cut the mustard. Borini and Suso both farmed out and appear to be better than the back up we currently have.

There is sufficient talent in the reserves to shore up the numbers. Apart from Lucas we don't have another DM, still no RW but Sterling has made that position his own. Flanagan has been a blessing in stepping up to cover both flanks (never thought I'd ever say that). Robinson will return and can do a job. Our midfield needs an overhaul.

Not getting any first team players in this window will hurt us and prevent us from making the top 4.
 
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I'm a bit gutted we're going to lose out on our 20% for the little shit! We need to pretend we're in for him and get spurs or chelsea to jump in with 15mill.
 
His Dad is a tool. I think all these clubs are finding that out the hard way. He should sack him off and get a decent fucking agent.
 
[article=http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11728/9148086/paul-inces-controversial-blackpool-sack-led-to-sons-exit]"I don't like the window and Tom made his decision to go to Palace at about 10.30 that evening," he said. "To ask a kid to make a decision like that in such a short space of time is difficult.

"We spoke to a few clubs, we went down to Swansea and we spoke to Mark Hughes, Brucey (Steve Bruce), Gus (Poyet), we were all over the place."

There was interest in Tom Ince from Liverpool, whom he left for Blackpool in August 2011 after failing to force his way into the first team.

But while such a move appealed to the player, his father Paul believes it would have been the wrong option at this stage of his career.

"Liverpool were in but I don't think Thomas is ready to go to Liverpool yet," he said. "Brendan (Rodgers) has done very well there and he does play the kids but for his progression as a footballer it needed to be a Stoke, a Swansea, a Palace or a Hull at this point.

"Maybe in two or three years' time that might be a move for him."[/article]
 
at least someone involved saw that a move to us wasn't good for all involved. Sadly it wasn't someone on our side if this is to be believed .
 
at least someone involved saw that a move to us wasn't good for all involved. Sadly it wasn't someone on our side if this is to be believed .

The entire way through yesterdays match I was thinking that we would look completely stupid if we had a young goalscoring midfielder on the bench.

Thank god we dodged that bullet.
 
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