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Interesting Piece from Dion Fanning:

R oy Hodgson has been described as "the perfect appointment" for Liverpool. Although as the writer in question also once suggested that Emile Heskey could have the same impact on a club as Eric Cantona, there are good reasons right now for Liverpool to feel very afraid.

Hodgson will not make or break Liverpool, Tom Hicks and George Gillett have already taken care of that, but his appointment last week underlined one thing: football is no longer the priority at Anfield.

Hodgson was, by all accounts, impressive at his introductory press conference on Thursday but he was always going to be. He is astute at playing the media, saying nothing or saying the right thing, which as far as the corporate class who run Liverpool are concerned is the same thing.

For them, Hodgson's debut was a dream. He was hailed by the media, many of who feel they will be inside the tent once more after the years when Benitez treated them with contempt, and he made no claims on money that did not exist.

Liverpool underlined their position as a dwindling force in English football with the announcement that the eminently reasonable Hodgson would be their new manager.

Hodgson described managing Liverpool as "the biggest job in club football" which in some ways is true. It is the biggest challenge but if Liverpool were the biggest club in world football, they wouldn't be appointing Roy Hodgson as manager. Hodgson seems to sense this somewhere. He is a footnote in Liverpool's history but, more importantly, he is a footnote in Liverpool's present.

Liverpool is now a club owned by banks and run for the benefit of bankers. They have appeared to discount the advice of the football man Kenny Dalglish, although at Hodgson's presentation it was said he was fully supportive. Subsequent quotes from Dalglish, the spiritual leader of Liverpool Football Club, gave his backing to the new manager.

Dalglish is being impeccably loyal to the club he loves but what kind of club remains is, as the new manager admitted, beyond Hodgson's control. He says he has received assurances that he will receive any money from the sale of players but this would be a change of strategy. This regime is also good at giving assurances. The new stadium is already built on assurances alone and Tom Hicks was able to name a completion date without letting anyone know when building would start.

The chairman Martin Broughton last week assured people that unknown bidders would start trying to buy the club by mid-July and he expected the club to be sold by the end of August, even though there have been no bids yet. With these men in charge of an appointment, Liverpool were never going to get a revolutionary or even a visionary. Instead they got the company man.

The distraction is about Hodgson keeping the players who want to leave, the players who would leave, it was suggested, if Benitez stayed. Javier Mascherano seems certain to go while Fernando Torres may stick around for one more season, but he may be more reluctant if Steven Gerrard goes.

One website reported that Gerrard had "given his unanimous backing" to Hodgson. For somebody as conflicted as Gerrard that would be possible but also quite an achievement. Gerrard's backing might not keep him at the club and if Liverpool was still a football club, selling Gerrard would make a lot of sense.

Unfortunately, Hodgson would probably not see the money if he sold him so he has to fight to keep him, but admitted on his first day that it was "to some extent, out of his hands". Hodgson is a reasonable man in circumstances that are unreasonable. They are banking on him staying reasonable.

To date, Christian Purslow has failed to do what he was brought in to do and he fired Benitez for similar footballing failures. Now he has appointed a man who has many friends in the media, guaranteeing an orgy of bullshit not seen since they urged Liverpool to be patient with Gerard Houllier (funny how they never had the same tolerance for Benitez, but Rafa never provided them with the name of a good restaurant in Montpellier).

By the end of the week, all the important figures had spoken. "He is a man of great experience who attends all the big tournaments," Houllier said of his friend, bringing his own touch of surreal flimflam to the proceedings. Attendance at all the big tournaments is now a qualification which must make Malcolm Brodie a prime candidate for the big jobs. Jose Mourinho, who hasn't spent much time in South Africa, would want to watch his back.

The age of bullshit is back with the blessing of Houllier. Liverpool is now peppered with it. In response to one fan's criticism of the decision to sack Benitez, Broughton replied that the media didn't seem to agree with the supporters who were against the dismissal. What this had to do with anything wasn't made clear but the media reaction was, as the official website reported, universally supportive of Hodgson's appointment. They have controlled the news cycle while everything else falls to pieces.

Those who will protest in Liverpool today about the ownership of Hicks and Gillett are wise to what is going on. They are staging their own Independence Day and they know that Hodgson is window dressing. There were many justifiable reasons for dismissing Benitez but none for replacing him with Hodgson.

He makes the right noises in the right language, the language that is understood from the corporate world to the UEFA technical committees where Hodgson has permanent membership. It is the language of bullshit.

"I'd like to sign off on the financial part and leave that to the man sat beside me because he knows more about these things than me," Hodgson said on Thursday, suggesting he hasn't been paying attention; the days when the money men knew about money is over.

But Hodgson is there as a balm. His purpose is not to soothe the supporters but to soothe those who now call the shots. There will be no more awkward press conferences; the bourgeoisie have triumphed.

They talk about stability and harmony. Why would a manager with a club in as much danger as Liverpool want to provide that? "The only complete person is a complete idiot," Tennessee Williams said. For harmony, stability and open lines of communication read inertia, acquiescence and appeasement.

Liverpool will be a quieter club under Hodgson. There was never a worse time to be silent.
 
Doesn't seem very interesting to me!

This guy Dion Fanning doesn't say what his preferred alternative was to the appointment of Roy Hodgson.

For me it is just another despicable attempt to smear Hodgson's character.
 
I agree with you Portly.
Dion has written some decent articles on Liverpool, of which he is a fan, but I don't think that was one of them.
I think it was Ross who said that he was a member of SOS and if he isn't he probably should be with views like that.
 
Interesting?!

It's a load of shite.

Made no claims on money that did not exist

Riiigghhtt. Cos most managers come out & say, "Yeah, the chairmen's given me 15m plus money from sales to spend".

They have appeared to discount the advice of the football man Kenny Dalglish

Way to twist the truth. Kenny's INITIAL advice was discounted, in that he wanted the job. When he was told he couldnt have it (which Broughton was quite open about) his recommendation was Roy.

he (Broughton) expected the club to be sold by the end of August, even though there have been no bids yet

Taken out of context that looks awful. In reality he made it clear that bids cannot be tabled until mid-July, so of course there's no bids yet, they cant be.

One website reported that Gerrard had "given his unanimous backing" to Hodgson. For somebody as conflicted as Gerrard that would be possible but also quite an achievement. Gerrard's backing might not keep him at the club and if Liverpool was still a football club, selling Gerrard would make a lot of sense.

Unfortunately, Hodgson would probably not see the money if he sold him so he has to fight to keep him, but admitted on his first day that it was "to some extent, out of his hands". Hodgson is a reasonable man in circumstances that are unreasonable. They are banking on him staying reasonable.

So, Stevie's wants Roy, but that's bad cos we really need to sell Gerrard?

And it's Roy's fault for saying it's not his decision?

I didnt think it could get worse.

Christian Purslow has failed to do what he was brought in to do and he fired Benitez for similar footballing failures

Has he? Really, back to the fact bids cant be tabled until July. Besides, he has more to his role than that. Also, the board fired Benitez, not Purslow.

In response to one fan's criticism of the decision to sack Benitez, Broughton replied that the media didn't seem to agree with the supporters who were against the dismissal. What this had to do with anything wasn't made clear but the media reaction was, as the official website reported, universally supportive of Hodgson's appointment. They have controlled the news cycle while everything else falls to pieces.

Considering it's pretty much 50/50 amongst fans regards Rafa's sacking, & the media were baying for it, that entire paragraph is bollocks.

They talk about stability and harmony. Why would a manager with a club in as much danger as Liverpool want to provide that?

Because the "danger" is caused by financial instability. Not performing on the pitch exacerbated that, as did an ongoing running crusade against the owners in the public domain.

Liverpool will be a quieter club under Hodgson. There was never a worse time to be silent.

Again, that's exactly what the club needs now, to stabilise things on the pitch & get on the back pages for the right reasons. Anything else has a detrimental effect on the team & the search for new owners.

I dont know why I did that, as I've said many times before, Dion Fanning is a cunt (a cunt with an agenda BTW, he fucking HATES Steven Gerrard, fuck knows why), & he's clearly spent a short time reading RAWK or listening to some more deluded members of SoS & him repeating it ad nauseum with his own spin isnt gonna help them one bit.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40759.msg1130732#msg1130732 date=1278233472]
Doesn't seem very interesting to me!

This guy Dion Fanning doesn't say what his preferred alternative was to the appointment of Roy Hodgson.

For me it is just another despicable attempt to smear Hodgson's character.
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Yeah, he says football is no longer a priority at Anfield, this appointment seems very football based. Before it was about trying to attract big names and trying to brand us, which is fair enough. The appointment of Hodgson seems very focused on getting back to basics on the pitch, whatever the political and financial reasons are.
 
After 30 over pages of welcoming and counter welcoming Roy are we not done yet?

For goodness sake, he is in. Nothing we say will change that. Let's get behind him and cross all fingers, toes and whatever.

Get in there Roy!
 
Another Interesting article:

AS far as Liverpool are concerned they’re more used to blokes coming up from London to apologise, but this time it’s different. Roy Hodgson has arrived as their potential saviour... even though the natives still need convincing.

Where London Mayor Boris Johnson and Tory MP Jeremy Hunt touched collective raw nerves with ill-advised comments about Liverpool, football’s modern-day Roy of the Rovers will always choose his words – and players – more carefully. And in any one of the five languages he speaks fluently.

Even so, Scouseland is not short of cynics who suggest that managing a team that underachieved last season almost as badly as England’s flops did in South Africa is a bit too big a job for the quiet man from Fulham.

They’re havin’ a larf, aren’t they? No pressure intended here, but far from being out of his depth, this man could be as influential on their future as the legendary Bill Shankly has been on their past. Same level of passion for the game, only English... and with a touch of old-fashioned courtesy and class.

And, it could be said, with a rather more successful managerial record behind him to boot.

Sure, he doesn’t come with the same sort of charisma as Kenny Dalglish or his portly predecessor, Rafael Benitez. But he does have a better command of the English language than both of them and his CV is, well, in a different league.

Do yourselves a favour and just take a look at the record of the man some Merseyside doubters seemingly have such reservations about.

They still refer to Hodgson as ‘God’ in Switzerland, where he transformed a team of part-time bankers and watchmakers into serious World Cup contenders in 1994 and European Championship qualifiers two years later, as well as lifting them to an incredible No3 in FIFA’s world rankings along the way.

They love him so much in Malmo that they offered Hodgson a lifetime contract for leading the club to no fewer than five consecutive Swedish championships.

And when he declined that in favour of fresh challenges, worshipping fans named a new stand Roy’s Corner after him.

They rate him so highly at Inter Milan that the Italian giants actually tried to get him to go back there for a THIRD spell BEFORE they appointed Jose Mourinho, so impressed were they by the UEFA Cup Final he steered them to in 1997 and went on to win a year later.

They also remember him with fondness in Finland, Norway and Denmark – all places he stopped off with no mean success during an amazing, globetrotting career.

And who knows, the FA would probably have offered him the England job – having twice considered the prospect before – if he hadn’t opted to take over at Liverpool.

Okay, so things didn’t go so smoothly at Bristol City, Blackburn Rovers and in the United Arab Emirates, but hey... what’s good enough for entire countries and legends like Inter should be worth a shout at Anfield, shouldn’t it?

But finally, to Fulham. No wonder there are still lumps in a few throats at Craven Cottage over the departure of a manager who didn’t just make a fairytale come true there last season, but who won over an army of admirers off the field as well.

Players like Danny Murphy, Bobby Zamora, Brede Hangeland, Damien Duff and even Clint Dempsey all acknowledge the huge influence Hodgson has had on their careers and openly talk of their respect and admiration for him.

“He was always willing to go the extra mile for us – an absolute gentleman,†said one emotional insider.

“He gave us 100 per cent and we will always remember him for that no matter who takes over from him.â€

Hardly surprising, really, being that it was Fulham who got to the Europa League Final last season, not Liverpool. Remember also that it was Hodgson who was named Manager of the Year by his Premier League peers, not Benitez.

Memories, they say, are made of this. In Liverpool’s case they have a bright future to look forward to as well. Whatever fears they might harbour, Roy Hodgson will never let them down. Or, indeed, walk alone.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1130741#msg1130741 date=1278235068]
Interesting?!

It's a load of shite.

Made no claims on money that did not exist

Riiigghhtt. Cos most managers come out & say, "Yeah, the chairmen's given me 15m plus money from sales to spend".

They have appeared to discount the advice of the football man Kenny Dalglish

Way to twist the truth. Kenny's INITIAL advice was discounted, in that he wanted the job. When he was told he couldnt have it (which Broughton was quite open about) his recommendation was Roy.

kenny said he was the best man for the job and they dismissed that idea, is that not discounting his advice? the board basically went with kenny's second choice.

he (Broughton) expected the club to be sold by the end of August, even though there have been no bids yet

Taken out of context that looks awful. In reality he made it clear that bids cannot be tabled until mid-July, so of course there's no bids yet, they cant be.

why can no bids be tabled until mid-july? can someone explain that please?

One website reported that Gerrard had "given his unanimous backing" to Hodgson. For somebody as conflicted as Gerrard that would be possible but also quite an achievement. Gerrard's backing might not keep him at the club and if Liverpool was still a football club, selling Gerrard would make a lot of sense.

Unfortunately, Hodgson would probably not see the money if he sold him so he has to fight to keep him, but admitted on his first day that it was "to some extent, out of his hands". Hodgson is a reasonable man in circumstances that are unreasonable. They are banking on him staying reasonable.

So, Stevie's wants Roy, but that's bad cos we really need to sell Gerrard?

And it's Roy's fault for saying it's not his decision?

I didnt think it could get worse.

gerrard basically said roy was a good appointment but has given no indication whatsoever he will actually stay at liverpool whilst roy is manager. we'll soon see.

Christian Purslow has failed to do what he was brought in to do and he fired Benitez for similar footballing failures

Has he? Really, back to the fact bids cant be tabled until July. Besides, he has more to his role than that. Also, the board fired Benitez, not Purslow.

purslow was brought in to bring in investment into the club, where is that investment? bottom line, purslow has so far failed in the primary reason he was brought in for

In response to one fan's criticism of the decision to sack Benitez, Broughton replied that the media didn't seem to agree with the supporters who were against the dismissal. What this had to do with anything wasn't made clear but the media reaction was, as the official website reported, universally supportive of Hodgson's appointment. They have controlled the news cycle while everything else falls to pieces.

Considering it's pretty much 50/50 amongst fans regards Rafa's sacking, & the media were baying for it, that entire paragraph is bollocks.

They talk about stability and harmony. Why would a manager with a club in as much danger as Liverpool want to provide that?

Because the "danger" is caused by financial instability. Not performing on the pitch exacerbated that, as did an ongoing running crusade against the owners in the public domain.

Liverpool will be a quieter club under Hodgson. There was never a worse time to be silent.

Again, that's exactly what the club needs now, to stabilise things on the pitch & get on the back pages for the right reasons. Anything else has a detrimental effect on the team & the search for new owners.

I dont know why I did that, as I've said many times before, Dion Fanning is a cunt (a cunt with an agenda BTW, he fucking HATES Steven Gerrard, fuck knows why), & he's clearly spent a short time reading RAWK or listening to some more deluded members of SoS & him repeating it ad nauseum with his own spin isnt gonna help them one bit.







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I didn't agree with all fanning said but I did agree with some of it. what's done is done, roy is manager and I will throw my support behind him but (imho) roy's appointment smacks of consolidation rather that ambition.
 
Anyone who thinks the appointment of Woy was 'all about football' is fucking retarded.

If it *was* all about football, they'd have gone for a manager who was better at it

Woy knows the score, knows why he is here, and what he needs to say.
 
That second article KK, is pretty much the reverse. It's goes OTT in praising Roy, not pointing out the Switzerland is very much an inferior league, as well as the claim they want Hodgson over Mourinho, which is extremely difficult to believe, if not impossible. There's other examples in there too, but I cant be arsed pulling them out.

Suffice to say the truth lies somewhere inbetween the two articles.
 
Neil, it's perfectly normal business practise to have a date bids can be tabled. It allows interested parties to put together a bid & they then lay out a time frame for the full process with interested parties.

As for Purslow having failed, it's the same argument, how can he have failed to bring in investment when the club isnt allowing bids yet? It's like saying your Estate Agent has failed to sell your house when it's not available for viewings till next week.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1130751#msg1130751 date=1278237247]
Anyone who thinks the appointment of Woy was 'all about football' is fucking retarded.

If it *was* all about football, they'd have gone for a manager who was better at it

Woy knows the score, knows why he is here, and what he needs to say.
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I dont think anyone's naive enough to believe that it is all about football Brendan. Most managerial appointments & decisions arent. Just ask Capello.
 
In the current poisonous atmosphere generated by Spirit of Shankly, anybody who was appointed as the new manager was going to be accused of being the poodle of the Americans/Broughton/Purslow etc. etc.

I don't think Roy Hodgson is anybody's poodle and I am sure he is going to demonstrate that in the months to come.

🙂
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40759.msg1130758#msg1130758 date=1278237908]
In the current poisonous atmosphere generated by Spirit of Shankly, anybody who was appointed as the new manager was going to be accused of being the poodle of the Americans/Broughton/Purslow etc. etc.

I don't think Roy Hodgson is anybody's poodle and I am sure he is going to demonstrate that in the months to come.

🙂
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Don't you think the owners have made a contribution to the said 'poisonous atmosphere' too?
 
When I posted two months ago that we would be replacing Benitez with Woy, in the 'countdown to armageddon' thread, the universal reaction was a mixture of horror, disbelief and depression: *nobody* wanted Woy

Now, anyone who isn't postive, or mistrusts the motivation for this appointment is a loony S0S member

Typical, really, for mindless sheep, or cretins who rely on post-rationalised safety nets in order to avoid the obvious truth
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1130751#msg1130751 date=1278237247]
Anyone who thinks the appointment of Woy was 'all about football' is fucking retarded.

If it *was* all about football, they'd have gone for a manager who was better at it

Woy knows the score, knows why he is here, and what he needs to say.
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You make it sound like he's a 'yes' man because he's reserved, which has been said a dozen times by his peers and his past players to be a load of bollocks. We need to get back to basics on the pitch and he's demonstrated an ability to do that. So it is about the football. If financial constraints have limited our pulling power and we've gone for a short term appointment then so be it, but assuming he's a puppet, based on the fact he's old and a 'gentleman', is bullshit.

I hope he proves a few people wrong.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1130760#msg1130760 date=1278237994]
When I posted two months ago that we would be replacing Benitez with Woy, in the 'countdown to armageddon' thread, the universal reaction was a mixture of horror, disbelief and depression: *nobody* wanted Woy

Now, anyone who isn't postive, or mistrusts the motivation for this appointment is a loony S0S member

Typical, really, for mindless sheep, or cretins who rely on post-rationalised safety nets in order to avoid the obvious truth
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No. People have issue with fucking blerts who KNOW (in some cases I think pray) that Hodgson will fail. Blerts who KNOW that Broughton, Purslow et al are only here to fuck us over when in reality they're the mindless sheep that know absolutely fuck all about what's going on.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1130760#msg1130760 date=1278237994]
When I posted two months ago that we would be replacing Benitez with Woy, in the 'countdown to armageddon' thread, the universal reaction was a mixture of horror, disbelief and depression: *nobody* wanted Woy

Now, anyone who isn't postive, or mistrusts the motivation for this appointment is a loony S0S member

Typical, really, for mindless sheep, or cretins who rely on post-rationalised safety nets in order to avoid the obvious truth
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I heartily agree. He (or she) who feels it knows it, I guess.
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1130759#msg1130759 date=1278237981]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40759.msg1130758#msg1130758 date=1278237908]
In the current poisonous atmosphere generated by Spirit of Shankly, anybody who was appointed as the new manager was going to be accused of being the poodle of the Americans/Broughton/Purslow etc. etc.

I don't think Roy Hodgson is anybody's poodle and I am sure he is going to demonstrate that in the months to come.

🙂
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Don't you think the owners have made a contribution to the said 'poisonous atmosphere' too?
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Has anyone ever denied that that the owners are nothing but a bad thing?
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1130753#msg1130753 date=1278237470]
Neil, it's perfectly normal business practise to have a date bids can be tabled. It allows interested parties to put together a bid & they then lay out a time frame for the full process with interested parties.

As for Purslow having failed, it's the same argument, how can he have failed to bring in investment when the club isnt allowing bids yet? It's like saying your Estate Agent has failed to sell your house when it's not available for viewings till next week.
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FFF, Purslow failed miserably, that's why Broughton was brought in. (pardon the pun) Purslow also said that Rafa was central to Liverpool's planning over and above short term results, hence why I don't trust anything he says.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40759.msg1130765#msg1130765 date=1278238439]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1130759#msg1130759 date=1278237981]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40759.msg1130758#msg1130758 date=1278237908]
In the current poisonous atmosphere generated by Spirit of Shankly, anybody who was appointed as the new manager was going to be accused of being the poodle of the Americans/Broughton/Purslow etc. etc.

I don't think Roy Hodgson is anybody's poodle and I am sure he is going to demonstrate that in the months to come.

🙂
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Don't you think the owners have made a contribution to the said 'poisonous atmosphere' too?
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Has anyone ever denied that that the owners are nothing but a bad thing?


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It's hard to tell when a fan group who are actually doing something about their tenure, are treated with such disdain from many posters here.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40759.msg1130768#msg1130768 date=1278238739]
In other words no then.
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That's your word, not mine. Whilst the likes of SoS are slagged off, who was formed to get the owners out, it tends to lend support to the theory that maybe some people do think that the owners aren't bad.
 
Roy Hodgson deserves a better club to manage than the one he has found himself at.
I don't recognise some of the fans of THIS club as my Liverpool brothers of old.
If stoking the embers of whichever side of the argument you choose to fall in with is more important than supporting the team and her new manager then we truly are lost.
Good luck Roy you're going to fucking need it in this nest of vipers.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40759.msg1130762#msg1130762 date=1278238187]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1130760#msg1130760 date=1278237994]
When I posted two months ago that we would be replacing Benitez with Woy, in the 'countdown to armageddon' thread, the universal reaction was a mixture of horror, disbelief and depression: *nobody* wanted Woy

Now, anyone who isn't postive, or mistrusts the motivation for this appointment is a loony S0S member

Typical, really, for mindless sheep, or cretins who rely on post-rationalised safety nets in order to avoid the obvious truth
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No. People have issue with fucking blerts who KNOW (in some cases I think pray) that Hodgson will fail. Blerts who KNOW that Broughton, Purslow et al are only here to fuck us over when in reality they're the mindless sheep that know absolutely fuck all about what's going on.
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[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40759.msg1130770#msg1130770 date=1278239146]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40759.msg1130768#msg1130768 date=1278238739]
In other words no then.
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That's your word, not mine. Whilst the likes of SoS are slagged off, who was formed to get the owners out, it tends to lend support to the theory that maybe some people do think that the owners aren't bad.
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Everyone I would say recognise that Hicks and Gillett have put us in the position we are now and are rightfully lambasted.

I'm undecided about Purslow but apart from not bringing in the investment he said he would (did he put a timescale on this, I genuinely don't now), I've not seen him do much wrong. You could say getting rid of Rafa was a mistake but until we see what Roy does you can't make that statement.

I fail to see anything that Broughton has done to warrant any finger pointing.

Roy hasn't even held a team talk yet and some people know he will fail. I've seen plenty of people wanting him sacked already.

I don't agree with some of the things that SOS have done but recognise they do a lot of work community and charity wise.
The problem is, there is currently a situation where everyone associated with the club is being targeted, even the new sponsors. People rightly or wrongly associate this concerted attack on SOS as that is the view of the majority of posters on pro SOS sites.

As I say, it appears people at the club are labelled useless cunts not because of what they've done/haven't done but because they have an association with the owners and banks. They're cunts..well...coz.
 
I seemed to have a pretty good idea of what was going on two months ago.

More than most on here anyway, but that's not unusual
 
*yawn*

Is that all you've got these days? Lucas is shit, Roy is shit and I know everything before everyone and I'm always right.

Ok.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1130776#msg1130776 date=1278239860]
I seemed to have a pretty good idea of what was going on two months ago.

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That Roy was going to be the next manager of Liverpool? You and half the population of the city (as in Liverpool) Brendan. Nothing to be 'all knowing' smug about.
 
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