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The not confirmed, it's really only a rumour transfer thread ;Summer 2012

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We signed fat, square and useless last summer.
Now we're linked to more mediocrity of course I'm pissed off.
Especially after seeing our "rivals" (let's be real) signing highly rated players.
I am not sure you get this at all - our rivals, I don't think we can call them that at the moment to be honest, are in the CL and that's where all the good players want to be, if we targeted those players and offered the wages and the price we would still not get them. We are not shopping in Harrods at the Moment, we have to do it in Tesco and try to be cute about it and work our way back to the prestige stores.
 
Arsenal signed Podolski.
Tottenham are close to signing Remy and Vertonghen (up in the air now that 'Arry's gone)

So the 'actual' signings worth being arsed about are Podolski, Hazard and Marin. I can't fathom why weren't in there....
 
I am not sure you get this at all - our rivals, I don't think we can call them that at the moment to be honest, are in the CL and that's where all the good players want to be, if we targeted those players and offered the wages and the price we would still not get them. We are not shopping in Harrods at the Moment, we have to do it in Tesco and try to be cute about it and work our way back to the prestige stores.

We'll if we're shopping at Tesco let's for once skip the Kraft beans and by some unknown South American chili and hope it's good. Newcastle managed to get Cabaye, Tioté etc who weren't tried and tested in the premiership. We seem to be doing the opposite.
 
So the 'actual' signings worth being arsed about are Podolski, Hazard and Marin. I can't fathom why weren't in there....
I'd rather have all three of them than Kalou. I'd add Kagawa as well.

So you don't rate Kagawa?
 
Modo - why are you ignoring Mark & Vlad's points? Seriously? We will probably get some good players this window, but NOT ALL good players will come to us if we're in direct competition with Arsenal (Podolski) or Manure (Kagawa). We also don't have the money to compete this window with these clubs if push comes to shove. This isn't a sprint -
 
I'd rather have all three of them than Kalou. I'd add Kagawa as well.

So you don't rate Kagawa?

FFS Modo, we all would. It's not fucking Champ Manager! Kagawa was signed while we were appointing a manager. It's early days and there are plenty of players on the market. You're going on about Kalou like we've just signed him on August 31st. It's papertalk, you have no idea who are targets are, yet you're going OTT again.
 
Modo. Tottenham signed Van Der Vaart on the last day of the transfer window. As did united with Berbatov, Arsenal with Arshavin.

Sometimes its wise to keep your powder dry to see what is still available.
If we pick up a couple of free's now its ONLY to make sure they dont go elsewhere.
We will sign players at some point. The ones our manager has identified as the right ones to get us where we want to go.
Are you really REALLY going to say 'But they have signed.....x x x' all the way until te end of August?

Because thats a little bit...ya know......Veruca Salt.
 
Yeah I'm OTT. Remind me, who was our marquee signing last summer?
Cause I waited and waited and waited....
 
Modo - why are you ignoring Mark & Vlad's points? Seriously? We will probably get some good players this window, but NOT ALL good players will come to us if we're in direct competition with Arsenal (Podolski) or Manure (Kagawa). We also don't have the money to compete this window with these clubs if push comes to shove. This isn't a sprint -
I'm not ignoring them, to be honest your post cleared it up for me.
 
Man City paid 22m for the vastly inferior Lescott, yet our asking price for Skrtel is only £20m? It should be at least £30m, behind Kompany, he was the best defender in the league last season.
 
Oh I see. You think there is a direct correllation between your posting and who we actually sign.
Flap away then woman.
 
I feel bad for posters like Modo. I really do. Theyre like Villa fans thinking we are still at this moment in our history as big as Real and Milan and United.
We're a long way down and there is no way in a fist fight we sign Kagawa or Marin or whoever. And if we did we end up paying 150k a week at a massive risk.
It must be hard to see everything as a slap in the face.

Im genuinely confident that the man who signed Vorm, Caulker, Williams, Brittain, Graham, Sinclair etc for about 5m the lot, can find similar talent for us albeit at a slightly higher level.

Hes only been in the job 3 weeks, if we signed players today id think we rushed into them. Take your time and get THIS summer right.
And why he references last summer I dont know, for TWO reasons.
One:That was Comolli and Kenny and they arent even here.
Two:Even if you disagreed with our signings last year we still signed a 35m striker, A 25m striker, a 20m winger, a 17m midfielder, a 10m midfielder etc 'Oh i waited all summer and what happened!?' we signed loads of players is what happened.
 
On that basis he should actually stop flapping and shut the motherfucking fuck up Modo.

Balderdash!
I believe I'll continue complaining and inadvertently annoying people until we sign someone I like. Someone from the list in my signature perhaps?
Then I'll "shut up".
 
Balderdash!
I believe I'll continue complaining and inadvertently annoying people until we sign someone I like. Someone from the list in my signature perhaps?
Then I'll "shut up".
Someone whos dead good on fifa yeah?
:🙂
 
I feel bad for posters like Modo. I really do. Theyre like Villa fans thinking we are still at this moment in our history as big as Real and Milan and United.
We're a long way down and there is no way in a fist fight we sign Kagawa or Marin or whoever. And if we did we end up paying 150k a week at a massive risk.
It must be hard to see everything as a slap in the face.

Im genuinely confident that the man who signed Vorm, Caulker, Williams, Brittain, Graham, Sinclair etc for about 5m the lot, can find similar talent for us albeit at a slightly higher level.

Hes only been in the job 3 weeks, if we signed players today id think we rushed into them. Take your time and get THIS summer right.
And why he references last summer I dont know, for TWO reasons.
One:That was Comolli and Kenny and they arent even here.
Two:Even if you disagreed with our signings last year we still signed a 35m striker, A 25m striker, a 20m winger, a 17m midfielder, a 10m midfielder etc 'Oh i waited all summer and what happened!?' we signed loads of players is what happened.

His point is we didn't sign any GOOD players. Its good spending 35m, but if the player is a average then that just means we were stupid. I wasn' excited about any of the signings and was especially gutted when we bought downing and henderson. Also buying players at swansea and buying players at liverpool are two different things. For starters there is the expectation and then there is the fact that because we are a bigger club the club will charge a higher fee. Then theres a fact that for swansea all they cared about was staying in the premiership and bought players for that. The fact they did so good was a bonus. But for us its for champions league we're aiming for. I like Rodgers philosophy but the problem is attracting the quality players to play it. Like you said we're no longer the rivals of the mancs, chelsea, arsenal and even spurs. We're in the next pot of teams and need to get players that can get us back into the first pot. We don't have time to waste though, we can't afford to wait til mid august to sign players as most of the good ones will be gone by then. Also if he wants to implement his style he needs as much time as possible with them. As far as im concerned, unless the players we want are at the euros, we should be tying up our deals in the first week in july.
 
I feel bad for posters like Modo. I really do. Theyre like Villa fans thinking we are still at this moment in our history as big as Real and Milan and United.

No I don't. I want us to sign up and coming players, preferably foreign players. Rafa managed to find Skrtel and Agger who I didn't even know about. Or Garcia.
I want more of those type of signings. Surely they can be hit and miss, but at low cost at least.
What I don't want is proven mediocrity like Kallou or some of the other players we're linked to. My only exception is Dos Santos.
So if Rodgers can spot players like the ones I mentioned above and Cabaye, Tioté etc I'm game.
 
His point is we didn't sign any GOOD players. Its good spending 35m, but if the player is a average then that just means we were stupid. I wasn' excited about any of the signings and was especially gutted when we bought downing and henderson. Also buying players at swansea and buying players at liverpool are two different things. For starters there is the expectation and then there is the fact that because we are a bigger club the club will charge a higher fee. Then theres a fact that for swansea all they cared about was staying in the premiership and bought players for that. The fact they did so good was a bonus. But for us its for champions league we're aiming for. I like Rodgers philosophy but the problem is attracting the quality players to play it. Like you said we're no longer the rivals of the mancs, chelsea, arsenal and even spurs. We're in the next pot of teams and need to get players that can get us back into the first pot. We don't have time to waste though, we can't afford to wait til mid august to sign players as most of the good ones will be gone by then. Also if he wants to implement his style he needs as much time as possible with them. As far as im concerned, unless the players we want are at the euros, we should be tying up our deals in the first week in july.
All of the good ones are busy at the minute though mate.
Dont get me wrong, I'd like our business done early but in reality it doesnt mean we will or wont succeed. Id rather we take our time and get the RIGHT players.
Its laughable to complain about who Rodgers may or may not sign at this stage.
But then it is Modo.
 
No I don't. I want us to sign up and coming players, preferably foreign players. Rafa managed to find Skrtel and Agger who I didn't even know about. Or Garcia.
I want more of those type of signings. Surely they can be hit and miss, but at low cost at least.
What I don't want is proven mediocrity like Kallou or some of the other players we're linked to. My only exception is Dos Santos.
So if Rodgers can spot players like the ones I mentioned above and Cabaye, Tioté etc I'm game.
I agree with this post Modo, i just dont understand why you are being a fanny about it.
The players that United and Chelsea have signed dont fit into that category so why even worry about it?
Just chill brother. We will get our targets.
 
All of the good ones are busy at the minute though mate.
Dont get me wrong, I'd like our business done early but in reality it doesnt mean we will or wont succeed. Id rather we take our time and get the RIGHT players.
Its laughable to complain about who Rodgers may or may not sign at this stage.
But then it is Modo.
It was laughable last summer too. Didn't end that well though.
Maybe I'm inadvertently criticising Rodgers but the only thing I've expressed so far is that I'm worried about the players we're being linked to.
 
No I don't. I want us to sign up and coming players, preferably foreign players. Rafa managed to find Skrtel and Agger who I didn't even know about. Or Garcia.
I want more of those type of signings. Surely they can be hit and miss, but at low cost at least.
What I don't want is proven mediocrity like Kallou or some of the other players we're linked to. My only exception is Dos Santos.
So if Rodgers can spot players like the ones I mentioned above and Cabaye, Tioté etc I'm game.

That's how we all feel Modo, and I do understand the caution and the sense of dread when it comes to transfer windows. But as said, it's early days and no one has a clue about our intentions.
 
It was laughable last summer too. Didn't end that well though.
Maybe I'm inadvertently criticising Rodgers but the only thing I've expressed so far is that I'm worried about the players we're being linked to.

It's the way you do it though Modo, you act like the window is more or less over and all eyes are on us, when in reality, all we've got to offer is the dregs of a desperate journo filling column space, in June.
 
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