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West Brom boss Roy Hodgson was tight-lipped on whether he would be interested in replacing Fabio Capello as England manager when quizzed on the topic on Friday afternoon. up.

The Football Association are meeting today to draw up a shortlist for the vacant position after Capello resigned on Wednesday.

Tottenham's Harry Redknapp is the overwhelming favourite for the role but, with the FA keen to appoint an English or British manager, Hodgson's name is also up there.

Newcastle's Alan Pardew and West Ham's Sam Allardyce have ruled themselves out of contention, but Hodgson - who was strongly fancied to succeed Capello following the 2010 World Cup - preferred to keep his options open.

"I don't think it's right to say whether you're interested or not,'' he said. "The FA need to decide who they think are the right people and to decide what candidates are out there.

"Harry's receiving all the backing from virtually all quarters, but it's up to them to decide what they want to do and I don't think it's right for people like myself to say: 'I'm interested or I'm not interested' in the job because I've no idea what the FA have got in mind and what they want to do.''

On what he would do if he was offered the job, he replied: "That's hypothetical. When and if that day comes then I'll be able to take stock of the situation and make a decision, but I think it's arrogant to rule yourself in for jobs or rule yourself out for jobs when there's no indication that anyone's going to want you in the first place.''

Hodgson is only under contract at The Hawthorns until the end of the season - and seems quite content with that scenario.

"I think it's right to keep one's options open,'' he said. "The situation I have here's a very good one. I enjoy my work here and hopefully people appreciate the work I'm trying to do.

"I'm happy to keep my options open but I haven't kept them open for any particular reason, and I certainly haven't kept them open in relation to the England job.

"I've heard the FA say they want the best man for the job and I don't think whether people happen to be in or out of contract would necessarily affect that situation.''
 
[quote author=ankreds link=topic=48637.msg1480425#msg1480425 date=1328898513]
he's weighing up his options...MAN IN DEMAND!
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I know, he's considering his options. WBA or Engerland.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48637.msg1480420#msg1480420 date=1328897056]
Yes it does. How long does Trap have left on his contract anyway? 😉
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JJ - hopefully a decade - of qualifying where better managers (if you believe the pundits) failed ;0
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48637.msg1480422#msg1480422 date=1328897359]
oh please no. no. NO. NO!!!!!
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you know, I never thought I could laugh at anything with the words Roy Hodgson in it. but it seems I may finally be recovering from my tumult on this issue 😉
 
Spidey

Quote from: spider-neil on June 27, 2010, 06:39:27 PM

hodgson for england!
clap! clap! - clap! clap! - clap!

hodgson for england!
clap! clap! - clap! clap! - clap!


Well played Spidey, you started it..
 
For someone lauded by the media as a "proper gentleman", Hodgson really fucking gets on my tits.

He was so far out of his depth at Anfield it's laughable that he still considers himself a top manager.
 
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Spidey

Quote from: spider-neil on June 27, 2010, 06:39:27 PM

hodgson for england!
clap! clap! - clap! clap! - clap!

hodgson for england!
clap! clap! - clap! clap! - clap!


Well played Spidey, you started it..

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ha ha I remember that. I wanted him out of liverpool so badly I didn't care where he went :laugh:
 
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[quote author=localny link=topic=48637.msg1480434#msg1480434 date=1328899912]
Spidey

Quote from: spider-neil on June 27, 2010, 06:39:27 PM

hodgson for england!
clap! clap! - clap! clap! - clap!

hodgson for england!
clap! clap! - clap! clap! - clap!


Well played Spidey, you started it..

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ha ha I remember that. I wanted him out of liverpool so badly I didn't care where he went :laugh:
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I really hope you get the second bit too
 
Perhaps. I think I can explain what happens inside his brain to cause him to do this, but it is better to just sit back and admire

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To argue against Harry Redknapp for England is akin to arguing in favour of bankers bonuses. While somewhere in both arguments lies some complicated logic, the chances of being heard above the sonance of popular opinion are minimal. But here goes.

Redknapp is undoubtedly a strong candidate to replace Fabio Capello. It’s widely agreed that the new manager must be English (although, if Redknapp was from the Congo, we’d probably be hearing that any new manager should hail from Kinshasa) and Redknapp fits that bill. He’s also a very likable fella – the East End boy done good. So on the personality front – Redknapp is head and shoulders above any other candidate. But this is the England job, not a popularity content like the X Factor or running for Prime Minister – it should be about their credentials.

So let’s look at his record. His first major job was at Bournemouth. You’ll often hear the story that during his nine year spell on the south coast he plotted a victory over Manchester United. Well done indeed – but he’s hardly the first manager to claim an FA Cup scalp. He did see Bournemouth promoted, but he also saw them relegated before he left.

Redknapp’s next job was at West Ham, where he stayed for seven years. It was an unremarkable spell, in which he consolidated their top-flight status. Then there was Portsmouth. With the backing of Milan Mandaric’s millions, he took them up from the Championship and consolidated in the Premier League the following season.

Redknapp then took over at Southampton, in a move that for all intents and purposes appears to have been solely designed to infuriate his former employers. Taking over mid-season, Redknapp was relegated from the top-flight – something that at times has been conveniently forgotten when his name has been linked with the England job. Then he returned to Portsmouth, a second-spell that was graced with the 2008 FA Cup final victory over Cardiff City with a team that included Nico Kranjcar, Lassana Diarra and David James.

Then in 2008 Tottenham came calling and set him on the path to the England hot-seat. When he took over, they were bottom of the league. By the time he leaves, they just might be Champions of England. As astonishing as it sounds, Redknapp’s transformation of Spurs is not so remarkable. Tottenham may have been bottom with two points from eight games when he took charge – but they were never going to go down. They had great quality in the side and had simply had a bad start to the campaign – that doesn’t necessarily translate into a bad season. Since then, Tottenham have improved as a squad year-on-year. Redknapp has bought well and got his team playing fantastic football. But in creating such a team, Redknapp has spent vast amounts of money. Roman Paylyuchenko £14m, Rafael Van der Vaart £8m, Luka Modric £16m, Jermain Defoe £15m, Sebastien Bassong £8m. With the amount of money spent at White Hart Lane, the minimum that should be expected is European football.

A brief analysis of Redknapp’s record shows it has included two promotions, and two relegations. It has included an FA Cup.
And in the last couple of years, some impressive football and Champions League qualification with Tottenham. Considering Fabio Capello arrived four years ago with 7 Serie A titles, 2 La Liga titles and a Champions League medal, it could be argued that England have lowered their expectations.

But there is another option – Roy Hodgson. For a start, he’s English. He also has a personality that endeared him to the English football public. When he took Fulham on one of the most unlikely European adventures before it was ended by a Diego Forlan extra-time winner in the Europa League final against Atletico Madrid, the calm and respect he exuded reminded football fans of a time when winning and losing could be done with dignity.

Following his successful spell with Fulham he took over at Liverpool. The few months he was in charge is widely considered disastrous – the Liverpool fans didn’t want him, results were poor and shortly after new owners took over, he was sacked. But the perception of his time at Anfield is damning in comparison to the reality. His win percentage is only just shy of Kenny Dalglish’s, which is quite remarkable considering the chaotic conditions he was working under at the end of the Tom Hicks and George Gillett regime. It should not be forgotten that Hodgson was working on a shoestring at the time, without the benefit of the millions of pounds the new owners of Liverpool, Fenway Sports Group, have put at the disposal of Dalglish.

Hodgson has managed all over the world, from Bristol City to Malmo, Inter Milan to the United Arab Emirates. He has won numerous league titles in different countries, has reached two European Cup finals and was the recipient of the LMA Manager of the Year in 2010.

However much (or little) credit one gives to titles won in Denmark and Sweden, in comparison to Redknapp, his record is certainly not unfavourable. Hodgson also boasts experience of managing international teams
, having held the helm at Finland, Switzerland and United Arab Emirates. Under his wily gaze, Switzerland qualified for the 1994 World Cup, losing just one game during qualification from a group that included Italy and Portugal. At USA ‘94, they would eventually lose to Spain in the Round of 16.

With the groundswell of support for Redknapp, from both the public and current England players, it is impossible to look past the current Tottenham manager as the likely successor to Capello. But being the popular choice does not necessarily make him the right one. The last ‘people’s choice’ was Kevin Keegan, and we all know how that turned out.

A new England manager will be appointed, but before that decision is made, it is worthwhile to note that unlike supporters of Hodgson, the number of England candidates has more than a club of one.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=48637.msg1482619#msg1482619 date=1329231185]

Then in 2008 Tottenham came calling and set him on the path to the England hot-seat. When he took over, they were bottom of the league. By the time he leaves, they just might be Champions of England. As astonishing as it sounds, Redknapp’s transformation of Spurs is not so remarkable. Tottenham may have been bottom with two points from eight games when he took charge – but they were never going to go down. They had great quality in the side and had simply had a bad start to the campaign – that doesn’t necessarily translate into a bad season. Since then, Tottenham have improved as a squad year-on-year. Redknapp has bought well and got his team playing fantastic football. But in creating such a team, Redknapp has spent vast amounts of money. Roman Paylyuchenko £14m, Rafael Van der Vaart £8m, Luka Modric £16m, Jermain Defoe £15m, Sebastien Bassong £8m. With the amount of money spent at White Hart Lane, the minimum that should be expected is European football.
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Very disingenuous here. Hardly vast sums of money in this game, and we all know it's easy to spend money badly. The author is trying to push Hodgson by diminishing Harry with flawed facts. Makes me even more sure, Harry is the man for the job, when I see how we spent larger amounts of cash.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=48637.msg1482619#msg1482619 date=1329231185]
To argue against Harry Redknapp for England is akin to arguing in favour of bankers bonuses. While somewhere in both arguments lies some complicated logic, the chances of being heard above the sonance of popular opinion are minimal. But here goes.

Redknapp is undoubtedly a strong candidate to replace Fabio Capello. It’s widely agreed that the new manager must be English (although, if Redknapp was from the Congo, we’d probably be hearing that any new manager should hail from Kinshasa) and Redknapp fits that bill. He’s also a very likable fella – the East End boy done good. So on the personality front – Redknapp is head and shoulders above any other candidate. But this is the England job, not a popularity content like the X Factor or running for Prime Minister – it should be about their credentials.

So let’s look at his record. His first major job was at Bournemouth. You’ll often hear the story that during his nine year spell on the south coast he plotted a victory over Manchester United. Well done indeed – but he’s hardly the first manager to claim an FA Cup scalp. He did see Bournemouth promoted, but he also saw them relegated before he left.

Redknapp’s next job was at West Ham, where he stayed for seven years. It was an unremarkable spell, in which he consolidated their top-flight status. Then there was Portsmouth. With the backing of Milan Mandaric’s millions, he took them up from the Championship and consolidated in the Premier League the following season.

Redknapp then took over at Southampton, in a move that for all intents and purposes appears to have been solely designed to infuriate his former employers. Taking over mid-season, Redknapp was relegated from the top-flight – something that at times has been conveniently forgotten when his name has been linked with the England job. Then he returned to Portsmouth, a second-spell that was graced with the 2008 FA Cup final victory over Cardiff City with a team that included Nico Kranjcar, Lassana Diarra and David James.

Then in 2008 Tottenham came calling and set him on the path to the England hot-seat. When he took over, they were bottom of the league. By the time he leaves, they just might be Champions of England. As astonishing as it sounds, Redknapp’s transformation of Spurs is not so remarkable. Tottenham may have been bottom with two points from eight games when he took charge – but they were never going to go down. They had great quality in the side and had simply had a bad start to the campaign – that doesn’t necessarily translate into a bad season. Since then, Tottenham have improved as a squad year-on-year. Redknapp has bought well and got his team playing fantastic football. But in creating such a team, Redknapp has spent vast amounts of money. Roman Paylyuchenko £14m, Rafael Van der Vaart £8m, Luka Modric £16m, Jermain Defoe £15m, Sebastien Bassong £8m. With the amount of money spent at White Hart Lane, the minimum that should be expected is European football.

A brief analysis of Redknapp’s record shows it has included two promotions, and two relegations. It has included an FA Cup.
And in the last couple of years, some impressive football and Champions League qualification with Tottenham. Considering Fabio Capello arrived four years ago with 7 Serie A titles, 2 La Liga titles and a Champions League medal, it could be argued that England have lowered their expectations.

But there is another option – Roy Hodgson. For a start, he’s English. He also has a personality that endeared him to the English football public. When he took Fulham on one of the most unlikely European adventures before it was ended by a Diego Forlan extra-time winner in the Europa League final against Atletico Madrid, the calm and respect he exuded reminded football fans of a time when winning and losing could be done with dignity.

Following his successful spell with Fulham he took over at Liverpool. The few months he was in charge is widely considered disastrous – the Liverpool fans didn’t want him, results were poor and shortly after new owners took over, he was sacked. But the perception of his time at Anfield is damning in comparison to the reality. His win percentage is only just shy of Kenny Dalglish’s, which is quite remarkable considering the chaotic conditions he was working under at the end of the Tom Hicks and George Gillett regime. It should not be forgotten that Hodgson was working on a shoestring at the time, without the benefit of the millions of pounds the new owners of Liverpool, Fenway Sports Group, have put at the disposal of Dalglish.

Hodgson has managed all over the world, from Bristol City to Malmo, Inter Milan to the United Arab Emirates. He has won numerous league titles in different countries, has reached two European Cup finals and was the recipient of the LMA Manager of the Year in 2010.

However much (or little) credit one gives to titles won in Denmark and Sweden, in comparison to Redknapp, his record is certainly not unfavourable. Hodgson also boasts experience of managing international teams
, having held the helm at Finland, Switzerland and United Arab Emirates. Under his wily gaze, Switzerland qualified for the 1994 World Cup, losing just one game during qualification from a group that included Italy and Portugal. At USA ‘94, they would eventually lose to Spain in the Round of 16.

With the groundswell of support for Redknapp, from both the public and current England players, it is impossible to look past the current Tottenham manager as the likely successor to Capello. But being the popular choice does not necessarily make him the right one. The last ‘people’s choice’ was Kevin Keegan, and we all know how that turned out.

A new England manager will be appointed, but before that decision is made, it is worthwhile to note that unlike supporters of Hodgson, the number of England candidates has more than a club of one.
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who the fuck wrote that? please tell me so I can ignore everything else he writes.
 
Rafa is easily the more qualified manager out of any name mentioned at all.

What other manager has won a major trophy with an average side that he didn't buy or even have much choice in selection of? I can't think of any.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=48637.msg1482657#msg1482657 date=1329234772]
Rafa is easily the more qualified manager out of any name mentioned at all.

What other manager has won a major trophy with an average side that he didn't buy or even have much choice in selection of? I can't think of any.
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is rafa liked by the english public?
 
That should have fuck all to do with it, cos if he won a title with England they'd fucking love him, & he's the most likely to do it.
 
The FA would never give the job to Benitez. He'd be too much of a pain in the arse.

Shame really as I do think international football could suit him quite well in some ways, but the interference of the FA would be the problem.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48637.msg1482706#msg1482706 date=1329239686]
Didn't they commit themselves some time ago to going for an Englishman next?
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They always say that ideally they want an Englishman, but they never say definitely. If they did they might end up getting turned down by all the decent ones and ending up with Neil Warnock or someone.
 
How would Rafa be a pain in the arse? International jobs are the perfect storm for him. He cant come out moaning about transfer funds and asking for a sofa and getting a lamp etc.

He's also proved that he can suss out a side in knock-out competitions and get below-par teams to finals. He should fit into the set-up a treat!
 
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