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If someone posts the "he had the best rating on Sofascore" I'm gonna cry. Tears of blood.

Salah wasnt very good last night in the first half. Maybe because of Arsenals set up, our approach and generally how the game turned out. But in the 2nd half we were much better and he was much better. In the end he did what he's best at, getting attacking returns.
 
Salah honestly is still indispensable for us. Why? Because we haven’t signed an elite forward of late. The other lads are knocking on the door but just not there at his level.
 
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localny said:
Salah honestly is still indispensable for us. Why? Because we haven’t signed an elite forward of late. The other lads are knocking on the door but just not there at his level.
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Yup. We have other requirements in the team, for sure, but I'd say signing a proper goalscoring forward is up there right at the top.
 
Brizzle said:
Salah was good. Yet again he was isolated down his side. Our RB was rarely forward, and rarely out side. None of the CMs really favoured the right hand side in any meaningful way. We can't get the best out of him if we expect him to perform when he is double marked every game.

Our tactics are starting to affect the output we could get from him.
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Yeah, why was Trent doing his stupid inverted bollocks yesterday? When Mo had the ball on the right we desperately needed overlapping on numerous occasions.
 
Trent is above overlapping runs, just ask him yourself........he'll tell you.

He's also above working hard for the team to defend and the only one immune from playing short passes.

& with all that, he'll also tell you he should be captain of the club because he grew up around the block.
 
juniormember said:
Yeah, why was Trent doing his stupid inverted bollocks yesterday? When Mo had the ball on the right we desperately needed overlapping on numerous occasions.
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I think that was actually Slot. We were over run in midfield and he wanted to increase the numbers. It worked to be fair.
 
juniormember said:
Yeah, why was Trent doing his stupid inverted bollocks yesterday? When Mo had the ball on the right we desperately needed overlapping on numerous occasions.
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We actually increased our level of control in midfield after Trent inverted; same happened against Chelsea. In both games, the opposition managers successfully used their own inverted fullbacks to outnumber our midfield until Slot was forced to adjust by doing the same.

Managers do it because while it’s useful to have an overlapping fullback to help the winger, control of the midfield and smooth build-up from the back is a higher order of priority. I have a feeling Slot, while no stranger to this system himself, is trying to go against the grain a little bit and find a way to play without inverting fullbacks and also find ways to counter other teams doing it, but so far he hasn’t found a clear solution.
 
rurikbird said:
We actually increased our level of control in midfield after Trent inverted; same happened against Chelsea. In both games, the opposition managers successfully used their own inverted fullbacks to outnumber our midfield until Slot was forced to adjust by doing the same.

Managers do it because while it’s useful to have an overlapping fullback to help the winger, control of the midfield and smooth build-up from the back is a higher order of priority. I have a feeling Slot is trying to go against the grain and find a way do without this tactic and find ways to counter other teams doing it, but so far he hasn’t found a clear solution.
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Quiffer. Though a better explanation by far 🤭

That was his solution yesterday, and maybe against all top teams. Not sure what he did against Chelsea.
 
That’s a couple of the ‘old’ Salah goals this season already.

Barring injury he’ll move up to 6th.

I really think he wants top spot and will sign another contract.

He can go down as our greatest ever goal scorer if he does.
 
rurikbird said:
We actually increased our level of control in midfield after Trent inverted; same happened against Chelsea. In both games, the opposition managers successfully used their own inverted fullbacks to outnumber our midfield until Slot was forced to adjust by doing the same.

Managers do it because while it’s useful to have an overlapping fullback to help the winger, control of the midfield and smooth build-up from the back is a higher order of priority. I have a feeling Slot, while no stranger to this system himself, is trying to go against the grain a little bit and find a way to play without inverting fullbacks and also find ways to counter other teams doing it, but so far he hasn’t found a clear solution.
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It's this, always this. All the people on here asking why Trent is playing the inverted role or why Diaz cuts in or whoever/whatever. It's because the manager is telling them to do this. It's tactics, not park football with players wandering around. FFS.
 
Dreambeliever said:
That’s a couple of the ‘old’ Salah goals this season already.

Barring injury he’ll move up to 6th.

I really think he wants top spot and will sign another contract.

He can go down as our greatest ever goal scorer if he does.
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He's never going to finish top. Even 2nd is likely out of range.
 
Frogfish said:
He's never going to finish top. Even 2nd is likely out of range.
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If he stays til he’s 36/37 which is absolutely possible then 2nd is absolutely doable.

He’s a fitness freak and has shown over the last 2 years that he’s still capable of 20+ goals even without the electrifying pace.
 
Dreambeliever said:
If he stays til he’s 36/37 which is absolutely possible then 2nd is absolutely doable.

He’s a fitness freak and has shown over the last 2 years that he’s still capable of 20+ goals even without the electrifying pace.
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What is interesting is that people are only now truly noticing how great his passing / assists are. However that is because he no longer has the pace to go past most defenders so he's now employing that weapon more and more to set others up, and therefore that talent has become far more obvious.
 
Frogfish said:
What is interesting is that people are only now truly noticing how great his passing / assists are. However that is because he no longer has the pace to go past most defenders so he's now employing that weapon more and more to set others up, and therefore that talent has become far more obvious.
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It’s interesting that’s he’s arguably the best at the club and threading the needle with a defence splitting inch perfect pass but at the same time can be prone to sloppy passes in other phases of play.
Still my fav thing about Salah is his insane professionalism when it comes to staying in shape. Following him online, he’s at Ronaldo levels of drive to remain at the top of his physical abilities. That’s a big reason I think he has a lot more longevity that others suggest.
 
Dreambeliever said:
It’s interesting that’s he’s arguably the best at the club and threading the needle with a defence splitting inch perfect pass but at the same time can be prone to sloppy passes in other phases of play.
Still my fav thing about Salah is his insane professionalism when it comes to staying in shape. Following him online, he’s at Ronaldo levels of drive to remain at the top of his physical abilities. That’s a big reason I think he has a lot more longevity that others suggest.
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While I agree with a lot of what you say about Salah, surely the comparison with Ronaldo was, Real let him leave (aged 33, I think) and every team he’s been with since, despite him “delivering” hasn’t really done well.

Juventus won a couple of leagues with him - but that was when Juventus were dominant - just look at their league wins during that decade.

The point is - there a point where chasing personal goals and indulging a legend is counterproductive.

Replacing him is nigh on impossible if you want to replicate his impact - but there’s a point at which those 5/10 performances with 1 or 2 moments of genius isn’t enough.

It’s certainly not a reason to keep him “too long”.
 
StevieM said:
While I agree with a lot of what you say about Salah, surely the comparison with Ronaldo was, Real let him leave (aged 33, I think) and every team he’s been with since, despite him “delivering” hasn’t really done well.

Juventus won a couple of leagues with him - but that was when Juventus were dominant - just look at their league wins during that decade.

The point is - there a point where chasing personal goals and indulging a legend is counterproductive.

Replacing him is nigh on impossible if you want to replicate his impact - but there’s a point at which those 5/10 performances with 1 or 2 moments of genius isn’t enough.

It’s certainly not a reason to keep him “too long”.
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Spot on.

Don't forget he's got 2 month off next season too, being in Africa chasing the AFCON trophy (which they won't win because it's in Morocco and they're just too good).

Despite this, I'd keep him but only if we sign a replacement or that sicknote Italian finally sheds his pasta weight.
Salah should be treated just like Ronaldo was in Juve, he's should be the cherry on top. Bring him out to play the important games.
 
Modo said:
Spot on.

Don't forget he's got 2 month off next season too, being in Africa chasing the AFCON trophy (which they won't win because it's in Morocco and they're just too good).

Despite this, I'd keep him but only if we sign a replacement or that sicknote Italian finally sheds his pasta weight.
Salah should be treated just like Ronaldo was in Juve, he's should be the cherry on top. Bring him out to play the important games.
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Isn’t it normally 6 weeks or less? Is it being extended next season.
It all depends on how he is playing and what other options we have.
Also, we aren’t Real and don’t spend the money they have on young Brazillians. Plus Salah currently holds all the cards, currently he would be out of contract by the time he is 33 so just be grateful you got to see the PL version of Christiano and Messi.
 
rubans said:
Isn’t it normally 6 weeks or less? Is it being extended next season.
It all depends on how he is playing and what other options we have.
Also, we aren’t Real and don’t spend the money they have on young Brazillians. Plus Salah currently holds all the cards, currently he would be out of contract by the time he is 33 so just be grateful you got to see the PL version of Christiano and Messi.
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It is, I'm just exaggerating.

These are the dates for the AFCON next season:


Dates21 December 2025 – 18 January 2026

No Christmas fixtures for him.
 
StevieM said:
While I agree with a lot of what you say about Salah, surely the comparison with Ronaldo was, Real let him leave (aged 33, I think) and every team he’s been with since, despite him “delivering” hasn’t really done well.

Juventus won a couple of leagues with him - but that was when Juventus were dominant - just look at their league wins during that decade.

The point is - there a point where chasing personal goals and indulging a legend is counterproductive.

Replacing him is nigh on impossible if you want to replicate his impact - but there’s a point at which those 5/10 performances with 1 or 2 moments of genius isn’t enough.

It’s certainly not a reason to keep him “too long”.
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Even at Utd he was not the problem but also Salah is nowhere near as lazy as Ronaldo.
He’s also amazing for the younger players coming through. Just listen to how Harvey speaks about him.
I agree we should replace him once his level drops off but so far he’s not showing any signs that his output is in decline.

As long as his one or two moments a game are goals or assists I’ll take that for another 3 years.
 
Dreambeliever said:
It’s interesting that’s he’s arguably the best at the club and threading the needle with a defence splitting inch perfect pass but at the same time can be prone to sloppy passes in other phases of play.
Still my fav thing about Salah is his insane professionalism when it comes to staying in shape. Following him online, he’s at Ronaldo levels of drive to remain at the top of his physical abilities. That’s a big reason I think he has a lot more longevity that others suggest.
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Not interested in joining this wider discussion, but did want to say his development with his final ball has been insane in the second half of his Liverpool career, for lack of a better descriptor. I remember how annoyed we all used to get because 'Salah never passes', but now he's dishing out assists for fun, maybe he did just hate Mane afterall.
 
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