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I dunno about this system being at fault. I mean - teams aren't getting as many chances as they have done in the past, they're just taking them. Most of the goals have been down to mistakes, not problems of formation or structure. Perhaps Skrtel should be told he can leather it into row Z again but that's the only change you could make apart from dropping Reina.
There were big gaps against West Brom, but then Lucas was playing - and he's not nearly as good as most of you think.
There were big gaps against West Brom, but then Lucas was playing - and he's not nearly as good as most of you think.
BURN WOLAND!!!
And yet brazil national managers, plus 4 LFC managers including the current one seems to show an awful lot of faith in him. Maybe you're missing something?
Yeah, and Henderson was being scouted by Ferguson and was picked by Capello and his successor for England. He's still a load of shite. Downing somehow has thirty odd caps. Your argument is what's known as an 'appeal to authority' and is flawed on that basis. You'd be better telling me what I'm missing rather than pointing out other people have got it wrong.
4 LFC managers wouldn't have considered sticking Lucas in the starting lineup if they'd have had Alonso or Masch, now hopefully Sahin, Allen and Shelvey will keep him on the bench.
It's also like claiming to be a good husband because 'all my ex wives" say so.
That's not going to happen.
One of the crucial pieces of Rodgers' 4-3-3 is ensuring the opposition have to run around like fuck so he sets his own team up so they take full advantage of the whole ground. The longer and wider we setup, the further the opposition have to run.
Therefore the gap between defence and midfield will stay large. You'll still see the likes of Allen dropping deep to pick it up but by and large the distance between our midfield 'line' (and I use that terms loosely) and our back 2/3 central defenders will remain the same.
By strecthing us out and keeping the ball at the same time, it means the opposition can't press in numbers. e.g. if they sent 4 people chasing down our centre-backs, we'd just move it forward quickly and catch them out. Thus, the opopsition run around individually, get tired, we keep the ball, and find space eventually.
Anybody who watched Rodgers Swansea side at Anfield last year would have seen this perfectly.
Plus, he likes his centre backs to pick it up from Reina to start attacks. The other advantage is that if the opposition's 2 strikers push ont our centre backs then Reina can just loft it over the op to a full-back in the gaps. If our midfield had dropped deep to compress the gap - this would be impossible and we'd have to hoof it long and probably lose it.
This would all be so much easier to explain on a chalkboard.
But he did get games when Masch and Alonso were here, did he not?
He's a very clever player, playing more intelligently than most, keeps things ticking and regularly ends his season as the player with most successful tackles and interceptions.
No need for a chalk board, you have explained it very well and I can see the rational behind it now - will look out for it in the next game.
Notice where Carra picked the ball up from Reina when he came on against Norwich on Saturday? He was almost playing at the corner flag he was that deep. Skrtel was on the other side close to the right corner flag (if I'm making sense)).
Now if our midfield was to drop deep to close the gap, then the whole Norwich side would move up the pitch with them and we'd be fucked and would never get out. Think of Hodgson's England side at the Euros as the best example. Tight close lines and it takes a miracle to get beyond the halfway line.
The further apart we play, the harder it is for the opposition to try and take it off us collectively.
All well and good when we have the ball, but against the better teams it does seem to leave a gaping chasm for the counter attackers to run at us when the ball is lost. Alot has been made of Roger's 6 second rule but not sure we are quite there with the pressing yet
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You really know your football Ryan and are a great asset to the site - which only makes it even more difficult for me to comprehend your lack of belief and love for Agger.
IT'S ALL VERY SILLY!
*Please notice the clever use of big capped letters in the last sentence, only to make you even more aware of the fact it's SILLY!
IT'S ALL VERY SILLY!
*Please notice the clever use of big capped letters in the last sentence, only to make you even more aware of the fact it's SILLY!
Re your first point - absolutely,completely agree. In fact Swansea conceded a fuckload last year against sides that nicked it off them and just stormed straight through the middle. Rodgers thinks the upside is that we'll score more than the opposition, they'll tire quicker, and that we'll "control" games.
The "6second bit" we're at least 12 months away from. Especially against really good sides. I can't even begin to describe how hard it is to implement properly. One cunt not doing their role brings the whole house of cards falling down. Again a chalkboard would be handy but you get my drift.
Well do a chalkboard from that sites someone linked the other day!
It was in response to your asking someone how they drew a chalkboard. Can't find the post now.
Ha ha, no I get your drift completely and completely agree so no need for a chalk board. It really is important for the forwards to keep the pressure up when position is lost high up the pitch to allow time for our midfield to retreat and get back into defensive formation, and to be fair and to their credit I have noticed loads of effort from them but Suarez/Borini/Shelvey and even Sahin ( although early days for him ) arent that great at it yet. Sterling does actually look surprisingly good defensively which is somewhat of a shock considering his age but at least everyone appears to be buying into this and we don't have any big time charlies coasting around the pitch.
Ryan get your chalkboard out.
And this is the point. While it's a great philosophy to have, we're not 'there' yet, so it's important that he shows his flexibility and willingness to compromise it a touch to keep things tight(er) until players gradually become accustomed to his methods (or don't).
One alarming factor is that we don't have a striker! So all this hope that we'll score more than the opposition becomes redundant when our goals scored is about 1 a game and our goals against is 2.
I guess the Everton game will reveal alot as far as any flexibility or compromise is concerned, definately agree with your point and perhaps we need two " sitters" for that game. For Stoke and Reading developing our attacking play is more concerning imho
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