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Suarez not World Class - Hodgson

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World Cup 2014: Uruguay's Luis Suárez is still a work in progress, insists England manager Roy Hodgson

Hodgson claims Liverpool striker still has much to do to be considered a world great ahead of England's crucial tie against Uruguay

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Impatient: Luis Suárez, watching his Uruguay team-mates lose to Costra Rica, will be determined to face England after Roy Hodgson claimed heis not yet a world great Photo: GETTY IMAGES

By Henry Winter, and Jeremy Wilson
10:30PM BST 15 Jun 2014
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Roy Hodgson believes that Luis Suárez can be considered one of the best players in the world only when he delivers in a World Cup like Diego Maradona or Pele.
Hodgson’s view is undoubtedly correct but it was unwise to voice such sentiments in the run-in to the Group D game against Uruguay on Thursday, with Suárez hoping to return from his knee injury.
Suárez was on the bench for Uruguay’s surprising defeat against Costa Rica on Saturday and he is itching to play against England.
Hodgson’s comments could stir the Liverpool striker further.
He played in the previous World Cup where he was associated mainly with a handball against Ghana. For all his excellence at Liverpool this season, Suárez has yet to deliver at a World Cup.

“I think he will only be at that stellar level when he shows it on this particular stage,” Hodgson said.
“If you are saying do I think he has got the potential, is he a wonderful footballer, yes he sure is.
"But if you are really going to put him up there with Maradona, Pele, Beckenbauer and Cruyff he has to shine in a World Cup.
"You might even argue [Lionel] Messi needs to have that sort of tournament to get up there with the legends of football.
“Pirlo was challenging that category. He has done it time and time again, shown what a wonderful footballer he is, because this is the stage you have got to do it on really.
"Being a great player in your league will get you lots of plaudits but for the world to recognise you are one of the all-time greats you have got to do it as the World Cup.”
Steven Gerrard, the England captain, believes that Suárez will feature in Sao Paulo.
“I’m not sure where Suárez is up to injury-wise but I expect him to play some part because he’s been so quiet,” Gerrard said of his Liverpool club-mate.
“I expect him to be involved in some capacity so they have really good firepower up front but we’ve seen against Costa Rica they are certainly beatable.
"They concede goals and if we attack like we did against Italy we will cause Uruguay big, big problems.”
England’s defenders have warned that it would be a mistake to focus all their preparations this week on containing Suárez given that Uruguay’s attack also includes Edinson Cavani and Diego Forlan.
“I do not think Uruguay are a one-man team – it would be disrespectful to say they are putting all their hopes on Suárez,” Phil Jagielka said. “The key is trying to keep him as far away from the goal as possible.”
Gary Cahill has gained confidence from his excellent record last season for Chelsea against Suárez and does expect the Liverpool striker to start on Thursday in Sao Paulo.
“I think we have to prepare to face him, but there are 23 players in their squad and they have other options,” Cahill said.
“Whoever plays it’s going to be tough. When I do well against players like that it gives me confidence, but every game is different.”
Jordan Henderson is also adamant that England should not make special plans to deal with his Liverpool team-mate.
“There’s not just Luis – they have a lot of other good players,” he said.
“In terms of Luis, he’s a fantastic player and you’ve just got to deal with him like any other player on the pitch because they’ve also got people like Cavani and Forlan.
"We’ll look to prepare well and concentrate on Uruguay as a team.”
 
What about the likes of George best? He could never be regarded as good as Pele or Maradona simply cos he couldn't play at a world cup?

I don't get that logic at all.
 
What he said is pretty reasonable. He wasn't talking about being world class but being a genuine legend of the game, and nobody puts him in that category right now.
 
What he said is pretty reasonable. He wasn't talking about being world class but being a genuine legend of the game, and nobody puts him in that category right now.

Exactly what I thought but ask a Uruguayan if Luis Suarez is a legend.
 
Shut up Roy. Twattish comments. How the hell he can big up shrek on one hand and claim Luis isn't world class on the other is beyond me.
 
I don't know about all that. In the 2010 World Cup, Uruguay finished 4th. He had 3 goals and contributed whole heartedly. Including a game winning save.

Then he drove the team to winning the Copa America.

He's done it on the world stage. Uruguay probably isn't winning the World Cup anytime soon. They aren't deep enough.

I just don't think he is a legendary player in that sense. Nothing to do with him not doing it on the World Stage.
 
What he said is pretty reasonable. He wasn't talking about being world class but being a genuine legend of the game, and nobody puts him in that category right now.

George Best is a legend of the game though ..... it doesn't all depend on performing at a World Cup, though one can see his logic and to be fair nowhere does he say Suarez isn't World Class.
 
I don't know about all that. In the 2010 World Cup, Uruguay finished 4th. He had 3 goals and contributed whole heartedly. Including a game winning save.

Then he drove the team to winning the Copa America.

He's done it on the world stage. Uruguay probably isn't winning the World Cup anytime soon. They aren't deep enough.

I just don't think he is a legendary player in that sense. Nothing to do with him not doing it on the World Stage.

This. Which means Woy isnt spot on at all.
 
If Suarez is not world class, no one is. Neither Ronaldo nor Messi have proven it in the world stage. Definitely not Bale.
 
Typical sensationalism though, he doesn't actually say he's not World Class, he said for him to be rated up there with the Pele's and co, he would probably have to do it on a higher stage. It's not completely unreasonable a comment, if he won the CL or had a brilliant World Cup, it would elevate him even more, to be considered alongside the legends of the game.

He doesn't say "Suarez isn't World Class", he said for him to reach legendary status, he might have to do something special with regards to winning something or at least having a great personal tournament.
 
I agree the headline is a bit over the top, but it's a bit of a silly comment to make. He's asking a player on the opposing team to come out and prove himself.

He'd have been better off asking that of someone on the English team.
 
George Best is a legend of the game though ..... it doesn't all depend on performing at a World Cup, though one can see his logic and to be fair nowhere does he say Suarez isn't World Class.


I think common sense would grant George Best a pass for this particular requirement, obviously.

But, where the opportunity presents, performance at World Cups is probably a fair criterion by which to judge the very best players ever.
 
You get the media you deserve.

You get the media that the media wants to give, he's a dithering old fool who often struggles to express his points well with the press, so ergo, let's make him look like an even bigger fool - we've just lost against Italy so the press will be ready now to stick the knives in, should we bow out early.

It's 50/50 though, half of it is him being Roy Hodgson, the other half is the press doing their upmost to discredit him, by misquoting and printing sensationalist headlines - of which many of our fans are clearly keen to jump on, without being reasonable enough to actually bother reading the article - the press know that a headline reaches more people than the actual content.

It's like this myth about him being defensive, this English team is anything but defensive. It might be static at times and flat, but defensive? It's an easy jibe for someone who's clearly struggled to stamp his authority fully, but at least he's done what many before him didn't have the balls to do, with regards to perennial international underachievers like Lampard, Terry, Cole and Ferdinand. Anyway, how defensive could Capello and Sven be?

I think he's had a rough ride, compared to better qualified managers who've gotten away with murder and acted as puppets for the FA and it's commercial/media darlings. The irony. Everyone thought he would be a "yes" man. An easily manipulated appointment, is that really the truth?
 
You get the media that the media wants to give, he's a dithering old fool who often struggles to express his points well with the press, so ergo, let's make him look like an even bigger fool - we've just lost against Italy so the press will be ready now to stick the knives in should we bow out early.

It's 50/50 though, half of it is him being Roy Hodgson, the other half is the press doing their upmost to discredit him by misquoting and printing sensationalist headlines - of which many of our fans are clearly keen to jump on, without being reasonable enough to actually bother reading the article - the press know that a headline reaches more people than the actual content.

It's like this myth about him being defensive, this English team is anything but defensive. It might be static at times and flat, but defensive? It's an easy jibe for someone who's clearly struggled to stamp his authority fully, but at least he's done what many before him didn't have the balls to do, with regards to perennial international underachievers like Lampard, Terry, Cole and Ferdinand. Anyway, how defensive could Capello and Sven be?

I think he's had a rough ride, compared to better qualified managers who've gotten away with murder and acted as puppets for the FA and it's commercial/media darlings.


I meant it more in terms of the British media being as sensationalist as they are because their market seems to lap it up.

Even on SCM, where most people could easily list and deride the tricks of the trade, we still see posters commenting repeatedly on baseless headlines, going apeshit about articles with no quotes, etc.
 
I meant it more in terms of the British media being as sensationalist as they are because their market seems to lap it up.

Even on SCM, where most people could easily list and deride the tricks of the trade, we still see posters commenting repeatedly on baseless headlines, going apeshit about articles with no quotes, etc.

They do, you're right. And as said, the evidence is there in this thread. I just find it laughable, it's even more bemusing that despite this conversation, someone will still come into the thread later and go apeshit.
 
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