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The onus seems to be on the extra CB to join in when we have the ball. Why not just play two from Coates, Carragher and Skrtel and have an extra body in midfield or attack who is accustomed to playing in those positions??
 
How many times this season have we peppered the oppo goal and got fuck all to show for it, just give me this ugly win and t'll make my day 😉
 
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=48272.msg1464213#msg1464213 date=1326555736]
if your gonna play a wingback system stick a player on who can get on the end of a cross..

Kuyt is pap.. Carroll should be playing imho in system like this...
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I think we will see Carrol Shelvey and Bellers all come on 2nd half
 
Kuyt is playing fairly well, but he's not getting the support he needs from Henderson and Downing.

Stoke are here for a point. It's time to gamble.
 
Gerrard has noticed we don't have enough men in the box. Hopefully he'll remind his team mates to get in there and gamble.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=48272.msg1464219#msg1464219 date=1326555870]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=48272.msg1464213#msg1464213 date=1326555736]
if your gonna play a wingback system stick a player on who can get on the end of a cross..

Kuyt is pap.. Carroll should be playing imho in system like this...
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I think we will see Carrol Shelvey and Bellers all come on 2nd half
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Bellers should be rested, he was looking Knackered and is needed for the CC semi final leg 2.
But if Shelvey plays the whole second half we win.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48272.msg1464233#msg1464233 date=1326556227]
How can you expect to win without anyone in the box???!!! Ridiculous set up
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It's not just the set up that's restricting players from getting into the box, it's their mentality too.

Far too safe.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48272.msg1464233#msg1464233 date=1326556227]
How can you expect to win without anyone in the box???!!! Ridiculous set up
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Do we even have 10 goals on the season from our whole team today? The only three players with multiple goals are Gerrard, Skrtel and Adam
 
Bring on Bellamy and Carroll.
Sub Carra and Kuyt.
2-0.

I'd love to see either Shelvey or Aurelio as well.
 
We only seem to want to win games after the 75 minute mark.

Until then we're reliant on wonder-goals and penalties.
 
Really, there is no one in the box ever. Our plan of attack is to get to within 25-30 yards and shoot. Tactically we are in complete control, but it is rather negative. Bellamy's pace is not going to be much use to us unless we go 2 up, but he creates and has a great shot so get him on. Game is screaming out for someone like Maxi though. I really dont get why he is not playing.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=48272.msg1464237#msg1464237 date=1326556376]
Bring on Bellamy and Carroll.
Sub Carra and Kuyt.
2-0.

I'd love to see either Shelvey or Aurelio as well.
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No Bellamy, he needs his rest for the second leg.
 
[quote author=iseered link=topic=48272.msg1464242#msg1464242 date=1326556478]
Really, there is no one in the box ever. Our tactics is to get to within 25-30 yards and shoot. Tactically we are in complete control, but it is rather negative. Bellamy's pace is not going to be much use to us unless we go 2 up, but he creates and has a great shot so get him on. Game is screaming out for someone like Maxi though. I really dont get why he is not playing.
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I think the games screaming for Carroll, just park him on the edge and let him run onto these crosses that Dirks not reaching
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=48272.msg1464237#msg1464237 date=1326556376]
Bring on Bellamy and Carroll.
Sub Carra and Kuyt.
2-0.

I'd love to see either Shelvey or Aurelio as well.
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No Bellamy, he needs his rest for the second leg.
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Ok bring on Aurelio to cross the ball to Carroll from the left.
 
Kuyt is a fucking shambles their days. We desperatly need Bellers and Carroll. If we wait until the 75th min with the subs I'll cry
 
361, cautious, varied, TTC, no playmaker, offsides, no win bonus, prepared, sub slightly injured.

Got to get Coates & Carragher's ME up to get good DV.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48272.msg1464248#msg1464248 date=1326556693]
Kuyt is a fucking shambles their days. We desperatly need Bellers and Carroll. If we wait until the 75th min with the subs I'll cry
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Actually that's BS. He has been playing some excellent balls into the box ... where we had one overlapping FB and sod all else. And why the fuck is SG taking corners again FFS. 6'2" and a helluva shot we need him in or around the box.

To be fair though Stoke are again showing why they are the anti-football team of the EPL. 8-9 parked behind the ball at all times, mostly it is Crouch up alone (a better player in all regards to Carroll) and the occasional sortie from Etherington.
 
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=48272.msg1464249#msg1464249 date=1326556712]
361, cautious, varied, TTC, no playmaker, offsides, no win bonus, prepared, sub slightly injured.

Got to get Coates & Carragher's ME up to get good DV.
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I disagree with a couple of things. No offside trap (lol at a Stoke player being offside!), and we are definitely playing LRS. Rest is spot on though.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48272.msg1464248#msg1464248 date=1326556693]
Kuyt is a fucking shambles their days. We desperatly need Bellers and Carroll. If we wait until the 75th min with the subs I'll cry
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That's nonsense.

Kuyt's first touch has been fine and his intelligence is there... the problem is no-one is supporting him.

One instance... Kuyt's in the box with a chance to cross... but has to delay because there's no-one to cross to... he delays twice and ends yup winning a corner.... because there was still no-one to cross to.

When our most advanced player is our right back and most dangerous attacking player is our left back we have a problem.

Henderson playing "in the hole" is fucking pointless. Downing on the pitch is fucking pointless.
 
Kuyt is having a decent game, but can't play as a sole striker. Subbing him for Carroll is not going to be any better. Bring in Shelvey or Bellamy for a Carra/Coates.
 
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