DUDE - i didn't take your post as ANYTHING more than what you took it for (I saw it this way too!).
NO offense taken whatsoever you anti-semitic thundercunt 😛
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DUDE - i didn't take your post as ANYTHING more than what you took it for (I saw it this way too!).
NO offense taken whatsoever you anti-semitic thundercunt 😛
Speaking as someone who is racially of the Semitic persuasion himself, I agree with this 100%. 😀
I reckon he was told to do that. We looked like we wanted a slow, well organised game yesterday for a 0-0 or to nick a 1-0, so we didn't end up looking like the complete cunts we did last year.
Supposedly the reference to pork, mate.
I didn't think it was at all !
Did we pull Suarez off when he was playing wank some games? No.... because he can change a game with a moment of Magic.
Coutinho is the only player in our squad that we know can do this at present....
Suarez on a wank day was still better than the entirety of our squad on form
Suarez on a wank day was still better than the entirety of our squad on form
The Torah is anti-semitic?!?!?! FOR FUCK's SAKE! Now I get why we're such self haters.
There's a lot in it about those stiff-necked, self-willed, uncontrollable Jews.
He's a top man is our LTW.
He is a good lad
Entirely correct.
Very pleased with the win and willing to make allowances for the performance with it being the first game and bringing in a number of new players. We'll have to play much better to get anything from our next away game though. Was quite pleased with the defence though stoke were as poor as we were going forward so it's hard to accurately assess.
The pleasing thing about Gomez's performance was that at least he was willing to compete with Walters (who can be a tricky bugger) and i doubt that Moreno would have been up for that. Solid debut from Clyne and Benteke showed some very good movement, just a pity he was let down by the service to him. Milner was decent and probably out performed henderson who struggled a bit with his passing. Firmino is going to be great to watch. You can see the confidence he has in his own ability straight away and he wasn't intimidated at all.
The pleasing thing about Gomez's performance was that at least he was willing to compete with Walters (who can be a tricky bugger) and i doubt that Moreno would have been up for that. Solid debut from Clyne and Benteke showed some very good movement, just a pity he was let down by the service to him. Milner was decent and probably out performed henderson who struggled a bit with his passing. Firmino is going to be great to watch. You can see the confidence he has in his own ability straight away and he wasn't intimidated at all.
Oh I'm sure he was. It's just not very encouraging.
It goes back to my argument of a while ago about FSG sticking with Rodgers but with revisions. Rodgers is an uncompromising coach. An holistic coach. He won't get any real pleasure from doing well if it's not as per his 'vision'. He wants to realise 'The Rodgers Style'. Some managers just want to win. He's one of those who needs to win HIS way. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's how he is. So revamping the coaching squad and encouraging more input from others is fine in the short term, but in the long term it'll fail and he'll go or they'll go. Because Rodgers simply can't go from someone who is obsessed with playing out slowly from the back to someone who is content to have his keeper walk out with the ball and then launch it. That's an anathema to him.
The only way this new set-up is going to work is if O'Driscoll and Co find ways to make Rodgers' style work better as Rodgers' style. They'll have to, for example, play out from the back, but better, more safely and more quickly from the back. If they fine-tune his methods, there's a long term future, providing the style works - if it doesn't, they're all out.
So all the hoofing yesterday, well, it depressed me because, one, it's even worse than the mad triangles, two, it's precisely the mode that Rodgers said he wasn't going to adapt for Benteke, and three, it doesn't work. So, as someone who desperately hopes against hope that this season we somehow click and progress, I found the whole thing utterly devoid of promise. Maybe it's a one-off for Stoke, but, again, I thought we were supposed to be grooming players to not need one-off strategies like that. I thought his style was supposed to overcome that.
The one thing that Rodgers still has to justify his position here is his claim to be able to make his 'vision' successful. That's it. There's nothing else. He doesn't have a skills set. He has a skill. He has a big book with 'MY STYLE' stamped on the cover. If you want a better pragmatic manager, there are loads. Go get one. If you want someone to deliver results no matter what: ditto - Rodgers would be way down the list. If you want a more experienced and better tactician - move him out. If you want someone who has won things and knows how to win more: again, make a change. Rodgers is all about walking the talk. He has to do it his way.
Yep. But Rodgers without principles is what? A young manager who hasn't won anything who talks and talks about principles.
Fair point, I'd argue it's much more dangerous having a completely out of form Coutinho for a number of reasons, chief among them being he doesn't work as hard as suarez did, an off form suarez worked his bollocks off, the fact that Coutinho is expected to cover the full back & defence at times, yesterday he didn't, & also cos Coutinho plays in the centre of the park when he constantly gives the ball away or isn't available for a pass it's much harder on the rest of the side.
He's possibly our best player, but we need him in better form & fitness than that otherwise he's a liability as well as a possible match winner. I just don't want Rodgers to run him into the ground for a couple of matches & then when we come up against the big boys in a few weeks it costs us points, he's arguably the only creative force we have on the pitch & we need him fit & firing in the matches where that matters most.
Did anyone else find themselves thinking "thank goodness Glen Johnson still sucks" several times yesterday? He actually got himself into some really good positions and luckily stayed true to his form of the last year or two.
She spends some of her time at a country pile just a few miles down the road from me. It's said you can hear her at night when the moon is full.
I actually thought he played a really solid game for them ... thankfully, he wasn't at his best in the final 1/3 as he really should have had a goal!
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