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Sterling to Tell Rodgers he wants to leave this summer

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“For a 20-year-old kid to be taking on Liverpool Football Club over a contract. To the pit of my stomach that just winds me up, it angers me,” Carragher said on Sky’s Monday Night Football.

“The lad is from London and he obviously wants to go back home. It might not be about money. It may be about trophies or playing in the Champions League. If it’s about trophies, Liverpool had a chance for a trophy this year, in the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley against Aston Villa. Where was Sterling? If you want trophies, they don’t get given to you, you have to earn them, you have to play well in big games. What did Liverpool do in the Champions League? Nothing. What did Sterling do? Nothing.

“To do what he’s done now. There’s nothing worse than that. You keep your mouth shut - get on with playing football.”
 
Judge Jules said:
In principle I agree with hardballing this, but it wouldn't be a risk-free strategy. Sterling is immature enough, self-absorbed enough (two sides of the same coin really) and, last but not least, stupid enough to let his performance levels drop if we do that, especially if the little sh!tbag thinks it'll force the club to lower any eventual fee.
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On the flip side, whatever clubs that are allegedly interested will not want to hang around waiting forever and may sign other options while we hold on.

And if he wants to move to one of the top clubs then he needs to play well. Like Suarez did when we refused to sell him to Arsenal
 
Rosco said:
On the flip side, whatever clubs that are allegedly interested will not want to hang around waiting forever and may sign other options while we hold on.

And if he wants to move to one of the top clubs then he needs to play well. Like Suarez did when we refused to sell him to Arsenal
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Certainly, but that's why I added stupidity to the list of "attributes". I'd be concerned that Sterling will either not realise this or refuse to believe it.
 
Suarez is different from Sterling. Suarez was a world class player right at his peak - there was real value in holding him for an extra year and getting that stellar contribution. Plus I think he had several years of his deal left. Almost all of Sterling's value is in the future - the likelihood is that next year's contribution will be no better than 'pretty good'. You could replace that by signing Konoplyanka on a free. You pretty much write off £20m by keeping him here another year against his wishes.

For what? To send a signal? Where's the evidence this type of thing works? How's it quantified? We did it with Suarez: the only benefit was having him that year. I've seen no knock on benefits. He still left the following year, and Sterling is still playing us for fools now.
 
DHSC said:
We are a fucking shambles.
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It's far from ideal, but its been known to happen. And I don't think you can necessarily lay the blame at the club's door.

United are better run and saw Pique, Rossi and Pogba all walk out the door in a similar manner
 
The thing with Suarez was that you knew you would still get 100% from him when he went on the pitch, regardless.
 
Rosco said:
On the flip side, whatever clubs that are allegedly interested will not want to hang around waiting forever and may sign other options while we hold on.

And if he wants to move to one of the top clubs then he needs to play well. Like Suarez did when we refused to sell him to Arsenal
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In which case he waits another year and leaves for a pittance. The chance of a big club refusing to take him seems negligible to me.
 
peterhague said:
In which case he waits another year and leaves for a pittance. The chance of a big club refusing to take him seems negligible to me.
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Depends. He's shown a lot of talent, but a bad attitude, a losers mentality and immaturity.

All of which would lead top clubs to question whether he has the mentality to become a great player
 
Rosco said:
It's far from ideal, but its been known to happen. And I don't think you can necessarily lay the blame at the club's door.

United are better run and saw Pique, Rossi and Pogba all walk out the door in a similar manner
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Well yeah; but they mitigated it by doing well in other areas. Like winning titles for example.
 
Rosco said:
Depends. He's shown a lot of talent, but a bad attitude, a losers mentality and immaturity.

All of which would lead top clubs to question whether he has the mentality to become a great player
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The other side to this is that alot can change from both sides in a year, we could come good again under Rodgers or someone else and his attitude could change again. As much as he's played this completely the wrong way, he's not the first young or even big player to have a spat with his club in public but end up staying for the long haul.

Selling while his stock is high is a possibility, but regretting it when he's tearing it up for a another big club in a year or two will be equally regrettable.
 
Judge Jules said:
Certainly, but that's why I added stupidity to the list of "attributes". I'd be concerned that Sterling will either not realise this or refuse to believe it.
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The problem with Sterling is the media (and probably his agent) have blown him up to the extent that he believes he's something he's not. All this talk of City, Real, 50m etc. It's no surprise his ego is now floating off down the M6.
 
We have a greater opportunity, with FFP being relaxed, to go out and sign three top players. It'll mean overpaying in terms of wages and fees, but bring in those players and then don't sell Sterling. Send a message that we're going to compete whatever happens.

Or, you know, don't, and spend the money on 'potential' and 'proven Premier League talent' instead. And continue to slide into mediocrity.
 
It seems to me that a lot people here have let this whole situation cloud their judgement... particular with this whole "Ibe is a better player already" stuff, which is baseless.

Sterling has shown that he is a top class talent and the fact that we find ourselves in this position is a sad indictment of where the club is at right now. I hope we hold firm here and put on a show of strength.

I have no faith in us reinvesting any money we get from his sale properly. Just look at what our 20M got us with Markovic.
 
Well apart from ryan, everyone is calling sterling all the cunts under The Lying Rag. I don't see how you can take a stance of pandering to a disruptive 20yr old that only has potential. Should we pander to Lazar? He's at about the same level, loads of potential, but not exactly a fat lot at the moment. I can understand us getting turned over and bummed by Suarez, he was brilliant and we desperately needed him in the 1st team, Sterling is currently bang average. Might be great one day, might not.
We should not be getting rolled over by this little scrote. Fucking flog him to anyone minus the scum for ~50mill and forget him. I'd take a straight swap with spurs for Kane.
 
If Sterling was some other team's player and we were linked with signing him I'd be comfortable with us offering £30m for him, wary of offering £40m and against offering £50m. I don't think he'll ever be "world class" and I'm happy to sell if it's for £50m.

We have Coutinho, Ibe, Lallana, Markovic and hopefully Harry Wilson might get a look in next season and no doubt we'll use some of the £50m to replace Sterling and hopefully we won't waste it.
 
The club should be especially alarmed by the claims that a number of teammates have advised Sterling to go and better himself. If that's true then you have a really rotten core at the club. It would makes sense in a sad way - a bunch of pampered under-achievers waving goodbye to one of their own.
 
Apparently his agent was on Talksport saying he won't be going anywhere in the summer even if a new contract isn't signed. Eh?
 
If some of his teammates have given him the advice of leaving, then they can follow him out the door.

Gary Neville has a good point imho, we make it very hard for ourselves when it comes to contract negotiations.
For some reasons we let it drag out and seem incapable of doing it the easy way.
Same goes for transfers.
 
gkmacca said:
The club should be especially alarmed by the claims that a number of teammates have advised Sterling to go and better himself. If that's true then you have a really rotten core at the club. It would makes sense in a sad way - a bunch of pampered under-achievers waving goodbye to one of their own.
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Where the fuck did you read that?
 
Hansern said:
Gary Neville has a good point imho, we make it very hard for ourselves when it comes to contract negotiations.
For some reasons we let it drag out and seem incapable of doing it the easy way.
Same goes for transfers.
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Is this really true, or is it because social media is so prevalent nowadays?
 
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