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Solanke - Liverpool striker?

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Origi was

a) lucky that his competition was Benteke and no-one else. Sturridge was fucked.
b) unlucky that he got fucked by that Everton twat

But if he wouldn't have got injured he could probs have been dead good.
I still think he was in a purple patch. He didn't injure him THAT badly to completely fuck him up forever
 
Comparing their relative situations isn't.

How the fuck is any kid who plays up front meant to break into that front three right now? If Torres was 19 and sat on that bench he'd be coming on with three minutes to go.
He isnt. Hes meant to be playing at Wolves or Morecombe or some shit.
Kind of my point.
 
I don't think anyone expected our front 3 to be THAT excellent, so I don't blame klopp in keeping him for depth.

Bit of a ballache in hindsight like
 
Which is why I think klopps kept him to learn from bobby, and change how he plays.

He was a lot more direct in pre season, now he's more about the build up
 
Remember when Klopp said Origi put 4kg of muscle on and became a better player overnight, I think the same can be applied bro Solanke. He's only young and once he bulks up a bit to "Costa" levels we might have a player in there.
 
I still think he was in a purple patch. He didn't injure him THAT badly to completely fuck him up forever

Did we see him much again? I think he'd just got good, then when he came back wasn't great and we just fucked him out on loan. And he's defo a confidence player.
 
Remember when Klopp said Origi put 4kg of muscle on and became a better player overnight, I think the same can be applied bro Solanke. He's only young and once he bulks up a bit to "Costa" levels we might have a player in there.
He also said the opposite about Gomez (put on too much muscle) and lost his pace.

Honestly don't know what to do with him.
 
Did we see him much again? I think he'd just got good, then when he came back wasn't great and we just fucked him out on loan. And he's defo a confidence player.
We saw him a bit the season after I think (unless my time memory is fucked) and he was meh.

Even at Wolfsburg. Started brightly, then was shit for months.

Purple patch players don't tend to do well at top clubs. They can be a great option if on song, otherwise waste of time...and then how do you get them to that form? Play them through the shite
 
We saw him a bit the season after I think (unless my time memory is fucked) and he was meh.

Even at Wolfsburg. Started brightly, then was shit for months.

Purple patch players don't tend to do well at top clubs. They can be a great option if on song, otherwise waste of time...and then how do you get them to that form? Play them through the shite

I'm not arguing with any of that, but Wolfsburg are shit. It can't be easy being a loan young striker playing for a load of shit. If he hadn't got injured he might be ace now. Sliding doors and all that.
 
How the fuck is any kid who plays up front meant to break into that front three right now? If Torres was 19 and sat on that bench he'd be coming on with three minutes to go.

It's an unfair comparison but primarily because Torres was considered a world class talent at the same age and if we had someone like that, they'd be getting more game time than Solanke.

Some players can't be held back because the have undeniable raw talent at a young age (e.g. Owen, Gerrard) whereas others have to rely on luck and other factors to break through.

I actually do think Solanke got something about him based on the very little I've seen of him but he appears to fall into the latter category. It's really hard for a player like that - particularly up front - to break through at a big club. Solanke has already got first hand knowledge of that from his time at Chelsea (though youth generally struggle there). If you're going to make it, you have to take your opportunities when they come your way.

Klopp doesn't seem to rate either Ings or Sturridge and we have very little depth beyond those guys so Solanke has had some opportunities. Has he done enough to convince Klopp that he deserves the #2 spot next season? Perhaps he's been amazing in training and they've seen enough behind close doors to convince them that the answer is yes. Based on what we've seen on match days, it'd be a firm no.

As with many youngsters we've wasted / ruined / whatever before him, he needs to be somewhere where he can build himself up in a team that wants to play him week in, week out. I don't see what he's gaining by being at Liverpool right now - or us for that matter.
 
I'm not arguing with any of that, but Wolfsburg are shit. It can't be easy being a loan young striker playing for a load of shit. If he hadn't got injured he might be ace now. Sliding doors and all that.

So when he scored 4 goals in his first 8 games, that was because Wolfsburg are shit? And then scoring one in his next 12 games was also because they're shit?

Or is it because Origi simply isn't good enough and can't perform at a high level consistently? Which is why even Wolfsburg, who are shit, don't want to sign him.
 
It's an unfair comparison but primarily because Torres was considered a world class talent at the same age and if we had someone like that, they'd be getting more game time than Solanke.

Some players can't be held back because the have undeniable raw talent at a young age (e.g. Owen, Gerrard) whereas others have to rely on luck and other factors to break through.

I actually do think Solanke got something about him based on the very little I've seen of him but he appears to fall into the latter category. It's really hard for a player like that - particularly up front - to break through at a big club. Solanke has already got first hand knowledge of that from his time at Chelsea (though youth generally struggle there). If you're going to make it, you have to take your opportunities when they come your way.

Klopp doesn't seem to rate either Ings or Sturridge and we have very little depth beyond those guys so Solanke has had some opportunities. Has he done enough to convince Klopp that he deserves the #2 spot next season? Perhaps he's been amazing in training and they've seen enough behind close doors to convince them that the answer is yes. Based on what we've seen on match days, it'd be a firm no.

As with many youngsters we've wasted / ruined / whatever before him, he needs to be somewhere where he can build himself up in a team that wants to play him week in, week out. I don't see what he's gaining by being at Liverpool right now - or us for that matter.

yeah but you do need someone sat there in case we get injuries. Tough one innit.

So when he scored 4 goals in his first 8 games, that was because Wolfsburg are shit? And then scoring one in his next 12 games was also because they're shit?

Or is it because Origi simply isn't good enough and can't perform at a high level consistently? Which is why even Wolfsburg, who are shit, don't want to sign him.

Dunno. Haven't watched Wolfsburg at all or seen any of the games or goals. Just know that 15th in that league = shit.
 
I didn't think we used him right yesterday, especially in the 2nd half. He is not a target man sort of striker even though he has the physique and height for it, at least not yet. We were sending balls to his head and he got dominated by Keane.

When we send the ball to his feet he looks like he has the deftness to do something with it. He just looked slightly off the pace which is understandable seeing how he hasn't had much game time lately.

Hopefully the league season will be sealed up by the next 2-3 games so he could have some more game time.
 
Love that little bit of skill from Origi.

Such a frustrating player. Had really high hopes for him as he's got loads going for him but whether it's a lack of mental toughness or poor understanding of the game, he hasn't found a way to progress yet.
 
Those saying 23 appearances are just using that to make him look worse. He's come on for a few minutes or so and it works out roughly about 8 games and one assist. Not great but given his pedigree for the England youth sides and Chelsea reserves, I'd be more inclined to be patient. He needs confidence and a loan more would have been preferable this season. However, Harry Wilson should have been the player from the reserves we should have been giving opportunities to instead.
 
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And lukaku

And De bruyne

And matic (twice)
Find me ONE person who thought selling Solanke was a mistake? Or that he was in any way a DeBruyne/Salah/Lukaku...

Ill tell you all you need to know.
Day we signed him I messaged Dave, you know Dave? And said see we signed that Solanke kid off you.
His answer was Who? And he wasnt joking or being a smart arse. He didnt know who he was. Same as all these other shit kids they clone and sell.
Hes one of them.
 
Find me ONE person who thought selling Solanke was a mistake? Or that he was in any way a DeBruyne/Salah/Lukaku...

Ill tell you all you need to know.
Day we signed him I messaged Dave, you know Dave? And said see we signed that Solanke kid off you.
His answer was Who? And he wasnt joking or being a smart arse. He didnt know who he was. Same as all these other shit kids they clone and sell.
Hes one of them.

Dave reckoned Moses was the best player in the world though.
 
Find me ONE person who thought selling Solanke was a mistake? Or that he was in any way a DeBruyne/Salah/Lukaku...

Ill tell you all you need to know.
Day we signed him I messaged Dave, you know Dave? And said see we signed that Solanke kid off you.
His answer was Who? And he wasnt joking or being a smart arse. He didnt know who he was. Same as all these other shit kids they clone and sell.
Hes one of them.
My Mrs dad was devastated they lost solanke



But he was also gutted they lost borini


Swings and roundabouts init
 
Dave reckoned Moses was a good player. And hes right. Mans been a big part of Chelsea winning titles.
Woah woah woah


He was the WEAKEST link in that side. That's why man's tried to spend 40 on my boy Oxo. And spunked 30m on zappacosta....who was more shite
 
Bertrand traore is doing well for Lyon, another one off the production line

Fuck knows what happened to Gael kakuta
 
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