I get your point, and I agree with it even though I like solanke. He should have done more in the time he's had.
I think it's disingenuous to keep saying 23 appearances.
Probably about 20 of them were 3 minutes at the end of games
Solanke - Liverpool striker?
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I think it's disingenuous to keep saying 23 appearances.
Probably about 20 of them were 3 minutes at the end of games
Yeah, that's fair enough. But in that time, he's hasn't even looked capable of controlling a football.
I saw positives in players like Origi, who probably won't be good enough, but it at least made me think we had something to work with.
With Solanke, I feel that he's got to where he has at youth level because he's physically more developed than other kids his age. There's no technique there. Physique alone won't cut it at first team level.
I saw positives in players like Origi, who probably won't be good enough, but it at least made me think we had something to work with.
With Solanke, I feel that he's got to where he has at youth level because he's physically more developed than other kids his age. There's no technique there. Physique alone won't cut it at first team level.
23 appearances makes it sound like he's played loads.
Since the last Everton game in January, he's played the following:
89th minute sub against Huddersfield
87th minute sub against West Ham
84th minute sub against United
71st minute sub against City
What's that? Like a total of about 30 minutes of football in three months? I wonder why he wasn't fucking amazing yesterday?
Since the last Everton game in January, he's played the following:
89th minute sub against Huddersfield
87th minute sub against West Ham
84th minute sub against United
71st minute sub against City
What's that? Like a total of about 30 minutes of football in three months? I wonder why he wasn't fucking amazing yesterday?
I think he has the tools to become a top striker - he's struggled to improve here but judging him on appearances which rarely included more than 10 minutes is harsh.
Will he become a top striker? I dunno - he needs a loan next year at a top championship team or a premier league team to play week in, week out. That will tell us more ...
Will he become a top striker? I dunno - he needs a loan next year at a top championship team or a premier league team to play week in, week out. That will tell us more ...
I'm not asking him to be amazing. Just, you know, control a football.
If that happens, I don't think he'll progress with us. We don't have a great record with returning loanees.
Yeah, I'm thinking that too.
I still believe (based on absolutely nothing), klopp is training him to play differently, so he's still learning
Obviously that doesn't excuse rapey touches, but still
I have the utmost faith in Klopp, so there is that. If he sees something in Solanke, then maybe there's something there. But I can't imagine he will get the opportunities next season that he has this. Klopp's not afraid to cut someone who is underperforming loose, either.
Wow.
Well, are we supposed to wait another 23 appearances, in which he probably still won't have scored or learnt how to control a ball?
Ideally wait until he gets to double figures of starts I'd say.
It's a bit unfair innit
We buy Suarez when he's 24, Salah 25, Sturridge 23, Benteke 24, Balotelli 23, Torres 23 etc, play them every week through thick and thin, and then apply the same criteria to someone we got aged 19 and plays like 3 minutes at the end of games.
Not having it.
We buy Suarez when he's 24, Salah 25, Sturridge 23, Benteke 24, Balotelli 23, Torres 23 etc, play them every week through thick and thin, and then apply the same criteria to someone we got aged 19 and plays like 3 minutes at the end of games.
Not having it.
I just want him to be able to control a ball. I'm not expecting Torres debut season wonder goals. I just some kind of hint of his potential. I see literally nothing redeeming about his game.
I do. He missed a decent headed chance early doors and then snatched at one from a few yards out that the keeper did well to save. I'd be well more pissed off if he hadn't got into the space in the first place. I'm not saying he'll be a world beater but I don't get where you're coming from on this. He held his own, he's very young, he's not match fit.
Maybe.
But at the age Solanke is now Torres had scored 50 odd goals for Atletico Madrid.
Solanke has scored a handful for Vitesse.
If he was gonna be any good he would still be at Chelsea or on loan somewhere.
Like I said he will have an ok career. Hes never going to become a Liverpool first team player.
But at the age Solanke is now Torres had scored 50 odd goals for Atletico Madrid.
Solanke has scored a handful for Vitesse.
If he was gonna be any good he would still be at Chelsea or on loan somewhere.
Like I said he will have an ok career. Hes never going to become a Liverpool first team player.
Yeah, that's coz he was playing.
Because he was good.
Or because he didn't have the best striker on the planet in his way.
I wish there was one of those compilations of all his touches from Saturday, but I doubt anyone would bother.
I don't think making Torres a focal point for any comparison with Solanke is going to end well, regardless of context
Comparing him to Torres is a bit silly.
Comparing him to a striker is.
I think Origi is a more suitable comparison, and we were all confused why we weren't more excited by him, weren't we?
We'll see, I guess, won't we?
I'll go back to Origi, a young player we gave a chance to and was deemed not good enough.
I was actually a bit of a fan of Divock. He was good technically, athletic, had a great physique and power. The mental aspects of the game is where he was found wanting.
Now, Solanke, doesn't have any of the attributes Origi had at his age, except maybe size? He has nothing else. I don't see how people can write one off and not the other.
I'll go back to Origi, a young player we gave a chance to and was deemed not good enough.
I was actually a bit of a fan of Divock. He was good technically, athletic, had a great physique and power. The mental aspects of the game is where he was found wanting.
Now, Solanke, doesn't have any of the attributes Origi had at his age, except maybe size? He has nothing else. I don't see how people can write one off and not the other.
Big Div is still only 22, by the way.
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